Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:48:16AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/26/25 6:55 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [SNIP] > > > > I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to > > the traditional behvior of "su" (before it was broken in buster). > > > > I don't understand the

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-05 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-03-27): > I'm certain sudo has its use cases, but all I do personally is su to > root and update and upgrade my stable Bookworm using apt, so I feel no > need to complexify the issue with sudo. The fallacy in here being assuming, without stating it and without justifying it that sudo

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-05 Thread J
> > "sudo -i" is meant to approximate the behavior of "su -". Before buster, > nobody would have used that on a Debian system. It's horrible. The > fact that people are now embracing it as a norm is even worse. > Why horrible?

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-05 Thread Anssi Saari
David Wright writes: > host!auser 09:57:47 /somewhere/that/is/obnoxiously/long/program-1.2.3$ > /bin/su --login > Password: > bullseye on /dev/sda5 toto05 > host 09:57:59 ~# cd /somewhere/that/is/obnoxiously/long/program-1.2.3 > host 09:58:08 /somewhere/that/is/obnoxiously/long/progra

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 02:55:11PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-26, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> If he hasn't noticed yet, I doubt it. > > > > I agree. > > If I understand what people want to accomplish by using command-line > > options, I would likely have gone to System->Log Out ... and the

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/03/2025 20:38, J wrote: But i must mention that *this passage from Debian Wiki seems incorrect* Bind mount various virtual filesystems: # for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /sys/firmware/efi/efivars /run; do mount -B $i /mnt/$i; done https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall#

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-04-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/03/2025 03:22, J wrote: But before this oopsie deletion I have saved as a back-up at least something from /boot folder, or maybe even everything. Copy files from backup to /boot and to the EFI system partition EFI/debian/BOOTX64.CSV EFI/debian/fbx64.efi EFI/debian/grub.cfg EFI/debian

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/03/2025 12:32, George Kirkham wrote: Now with Journalctl, is it still possible to connect the failed-to-boot disk drive to another computer and read logs?  How? [...] https://man.archlinux.org/man/journalctl.1.en -D DIR, --directory=DIR There is <https://manpages.debian.org/journal

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 16:32:55 +1100 George Kirkham wrote: > PS I am currently using Thunderbird to try out email threading. Are > the any other good email clients that support email threading and are > packaged in Debian? If, as in this email, you have two separate queries, you might do better (

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 04:32:55PM +1100, George Kirkham wrote: > Now with Journalctl, is it still possible to connect the failed-to-boot disk > drive to another computer and read logs?  How? You got an answer regarding reading systemd journal in another directory, but… For there to

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-30 Thread David
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 at 05:33, George Kirkham wrote: > 'Back in the good old days' when logging was to text files. When a disk > drive failed to boot, I could attach that disk drive to another computer > as a secondary drive, and then mount and read the logs to see why it >

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-30 Thread George
On 30/3/25 20:50, David wrote: On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 at 05:33, George Kirkham wrote: 'Back in the good old days' when logging was to text files. When a disk drive failed to boot, I could attach that disk drive to another computer as a secondary drive, and then mount and read the l

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-29 Thread Chris Green
George Kirkham wrote: [snip disk drive question] > PS I am currently using Thunderbird to try out email threading. Are the > any other good email clients that support email threading and are > packaged in Debian? I use mutt, command line MUA, excellent. -- Chris Green ·

Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-29 Thread George Kirkham
Hi, 'Back in the good old days' when logging was to text files. When a disk drive failed to boot, I could attach that disk drive to another computer as a secondary drive, and then mount and read the logs to see why it could no longer boot.  As well as to inspect other things.

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-29 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > Maybe. If you haven't created an /etc/default/su file, then something > like this: > > $ su > # adduser richard > > may fail. You could work around it in various ways (e.g. explicitly > typing out /usr/sbin/adduser richard). > > My recommendation is to create a

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-28 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (HE12025-03-28): > Approximately a decade ago I > noticed that new entries were not added to some history file, I do not > remember if it was .bash_history or for some other tool, but the owner of > the file was root. It was the reason why I

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-28 Thread Max Nikulin
o clarify why I suggested namely "sudo -i". It is completely unrelated to e.g. PATH issues. The context is live image boot. To recover installed system the user needs root privileges to execute several commands. ~/.bashrc vs. ~/.profile difference is not significant. sudo does not as

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-28 Thread J
Thank you for the answer. The problem was I accidentally removed the */boot *folder, WHILE trying to back it up. So there were only *OS folders *and something was missing. I figured out later that *kernels are also stored in /boot *and tried to reinstall the kernel manually, but ran into a

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-28, David Wright wrote: > > As end-users are the people that computers are built and run > for, I don't know why you'd find people's use of the term > "slightly pejorative". (I assume you aren't calling out me > in particular.) I was calling myself out, not you. You have always been he

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 15:46:15 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > $ su > # make install > > Whoopsie! The Makefile just pwned you. That's a COMPLETELY separate discussion. Obviously I was referring to software from reputable sources. > $ make DESTDIR=/tmp/i install > $ sud

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread David Wright
On Thu 27 Mar 2025 at 22:14:03 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 08:29:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Excellent, that solves the problem for those on old terminals or > > lacking copy/paste. As for me, I'll continue to use /bin/su --login, > > as I have for nigh on three

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 08:29:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: Excellent, that solves the problem for those on old terminals or lacking copy/paste. As for me, I'll continue to use /bin/su --login, as I have for nigh on three decades, so that I land in my preferred, consistent cwd, /root. su - do

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread David Wright
On Thu 27 Mar 2025 at 17:05:56 (-), Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-26, David Wright wrote: > > > > As posted earlier today, a file in sudoers.d/ makes trivial admin > > tasks like monitoring and logging easier, particularly where the > > programs concerned can cause damage if the wrong options are us

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread David Wright
On Thu 27 Mar 2025 at 13:58:10 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 12:48:35 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > It could be argued that it would be simple enough to communicate > > the user's cwd to root, as a workaround, so that it didn't have to > > be retyped. > > You know what d

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-26, David Wright wrote: > > As posted earlier today, a file in sudoers.d/ makes trivial admin > tasks like monitoring and logging easier, particularly where the > programs concerned can cause damage if the wrong options are used. I'm certain sudo has its use cases, but all I do persona

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 12:48:35 -0500, David Wright wrote: > It could be argued that it would be simple enough to communicate > the user's cwd to root, as a workaround, so that it didn't have to > be retyped. You know what does that for you? sudo -s. Or su if you've configured it with a one-lin

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread David Wright
t 07:26:35 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > The Linux console has no cut/paste. The text or framebuffer > console you get when you boot without having a GUI available? No > cut/paste there. You can add one with another daemon. Yes, I can't imagine anyone doing serious work at the console without a tool like gpm, available ever since buzz (1.1). Cheers, David.

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-27 Thread Dan Ritter
ication, server people like to do extremely weird stuff > for remote management. The Linux console has no cut/paste. The text or framebuffer console you get when you boot without having a GUI available? No cut/paste there. You can add one with another daemon. Don't call things "crude" when they still work properly. -dsr-

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/26/25 6:55 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: [SNIP] I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to the traditional behvior of "su" (before it was broken in buster). I don't understand the reference to some "brokenness" of "su". I've not closely followed this thread so I may

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread David Wright
On Wed 26 Mar 2025 at 16:37:41 (-), Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-26, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > I assumed it was effectively the same as power down and then logging in > > as root on power-up. > > It is. But it's unnecessary and dangerous to run your entire DE as root. > Or maybe you log in t

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (HE12025-03-26): > This caused ALL KINDS of problems. People would do things like: > > $ su > # apt update > # apt install somepkg > > And the postinstall script for somepkg would fail because it couldn't > find commands that are in /sbin or /usr/sbin, because those dir

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread J
So, in most cases* sudo -s* is better? Any downsides? ср, 26 мар. 2025 г. в 16:10, Greg Wooledge : > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:48:16 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 3/26/25 6:55 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to > > > the trad

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:55:33AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to > the traditional behvior of "su" (before it was broken in buster). > > "sudo -i" is meant to approximate the behavior of "su -". Before buster, > nobody w

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-26, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I assumed it was effectively the same as power down and then logging in > as root on power-up. It is. But it's unnecessary and dangerous to run your entire DE as root. Or maybe you log in to the console and use startx to run Mate? At any rate, I do follo

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-26, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> Does this "brokenness" of "su" have any potential effect on my usage? > > Maybe. If you haven't created an /etc/default/su file, then something > like this: If he hasn't noticed yet, I doubt it. I noticed when I finally erased Stretch and installed Boo

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-26, Richard Owlett wrote: >> If he hasn't noticed yet, I doubt it. > > I agree. > If I understand what people want to accomplish by using command-line > options, I would likely have gone to System->Log Out ... and then logged > in as root. Not recommended.

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread David Wright
On Wed 26 Mar 2025 at 10:03:59 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/26/25 9:55 AM, Greg wrote: > > On 2025-03-26, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > If he hasn't noticed yet, I doubt it. > > > > > > I agree. > > > If I understand what people want to accomplish by using command-line > > > options

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread David Wright
On Wed 26 Mar 2025 at 16:24:21 (+0300), J wrote: > ср, 26 мар. 2025 г. в 16:10, Greg Wooledge : > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:48:16 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 3/26/25 6:55 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to > > > > the t

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/26/25 9:55 AM, Greg wrote: On 2025-03-26, Richard Owlett wrote: If he hasn't noticed yet, I doubt it. I agree. If I understand what people want to accomplish by using command-line options, I would likely have gone to System->Log Out ... and then logged in as root. Not recommended.

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 3/26/25 9:04 AM, Greg wrote: On 2025-03-26, Greg Wooledge wrote: Does this "brokenness" of "su" have any potential effect on my usage? Maybe. If you haven't created an /etc/default/su file, then something like this: If he hasn't noticed yet, I doubt it. I agree. If I understand what

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 04:19:37PM +0300, J wrote: > > > > > work with* root?* I will try to test. > > > > I fully expect it to, yes. > > > > Oh, yes, it works. I just had to use *sudo su* and not not I think you never need "sudo su". "sudo -i" and "sudo -s" will do your bidding, depending on you

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread J
> > > work with* root?* I will try to test. > > I fully expect it to, yes. > Oh, yes, it works. I just had to use *sudo su* and not not *su - * Also it's bad that Wiki doesn't clarify* how to* 'boot the rescue system including the kernel option "efi=runti

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:48:16 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/26/25 6:55 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I normally use "sudo -s", which is the closest sudo approximation to > > the traditional behvior of "su" (before it was broken in buster). > > I don't understand the reference to some "brok

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 12:23:38 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 02:15:03PM +0300, J wrote: > > And i thought *sudo -i*, you speaking about, is something like > > *--interactive*, which is not, how i see now... > > The long form is "--login", not interactive. But the "-i"

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 02:15:03PM +0300, J wrote: > > In my opinion, "sudo -i" might be added to the wiki articles. I would > > prefer to see a warning concerning compound shell commands in *sudo* docs. > > > > J, my impressions is that you read some docs strongly suggesting to > > prefix every co

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-26 Thread J
> In my opinion, "sudo -i" might be added to the wiki articles. I would > prefer to see a warning concerning compound shell commands in *sudo* docs. > > J, my impressions is that you read some docs strongly suggesting to > prefix every command instead of just becoming root. Actually it is easier

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread J
There were also some minor problems which I solved with *apt update/upgrade* > while being in *chroot*. > In particular, there was for some reason no internet connection after I booted to the restored system. Something wrong was with firmware and/or initramfs i guess.

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/03/2025 19:47, J wrote: Notice that the page suggests "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc " so it is assumed that users should run $ sudo -i sudo *SH -c '...' -* as mentioned above. But it is not written in WIki. In my opinion, "sudo -i" might be added to the wiki articles. I wo

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:25:01AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/03/2025 19:47, J wrote: > > Notice that the page suggests "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc " > > so it is assumed that users should run > > > > $ sudo -i > > > > sudo *SH -c '...' -* as mentioned above. But it is not

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread J
OK, probably the bash script will run fine. > > > https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall#Using_the_rEFInd_rescue_media > > In the context of bind-mounts the link is confusing. > It's EFI Reinstall, not */boot *reinstall, my only problem is that "# for i in /dev /dev/pts /pro

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-25 Thread Max Nikulin
debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall#Using_the_rEFInd_rescue_media In the context of bind-mounts the link is confusing. In some cases rEFInd should be able to boot *installed* Linux in the case of troubles system firmware, e.g. missed boot entry. No chroot is required for grub reinstall. However you wrot

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-24 Thread J
> sudo sh -c '...' > Didn't know such a thing. Wasn't mention in the wiki. Have you considered doing something crazy like creating the mount points? > Can't say so. I have fixed my problem a few days ago (see above about mounting), now i am discussing with Max if Wiki is correct. https://wiki.d

Re: Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-24 Thread J
I have rechecked. It doesn't work with sudo also. Not in a one line, not when i tried to make line breaks with \, not in a bash script. user@debian:~$ sudo for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /sys/firmware/efi/efivars /run; do mount -B $i /mnt/$i; done bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'

Pls help fixing /boot/efi and GRUB

2025-03-20 Thread J
I had to reinstall Windows 10 for one particular reason and Windows Boot Loader wasn’t working quite right, so I have tried to fix it under Linux. And accidently deleted the whole /boot folder …oops. As Linux /boot folder was placed also in ESP folder, originally created by and for the Windows

Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Dan Purgert
it might be > interesting. If not, sorry for the noise. > > Best > > Hans > > Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 10:31:26 CET schrieb Dan Purgert: > > On Mar 19, 2025, Hans wrote: > > > Hi Geert, > > > > > > the desired goal is, that my origi

Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Hans
the noise. Best Hans Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 10:31:26 CET schrieb Dan Purgert: > On Mar 19, 2025, Hans wrote: > > Hi Geert, > > > > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after > > boot. As dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in

Re: [SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 04:34:48PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 16:24:15 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: > > >> Seems we've been through this before in 2022 (sorry that it's > > >> Google Groups which I thought was defunct but anyway): > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/linux.d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 16:24:15 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: > >> > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. > >> > As > >> > dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not. > >> > >> Se

Re: [SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. As >> > dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not. >> Seems we've been through this before in 2022 (sorry that it's Google Groups >> which I t

[SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 14:38:08 CET schrieb Greg: > On 2025-03-19, Hans wrote: > > Hi Geert, > > > > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. As > > dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not. > > See

Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-19, Hans wrote: > Hi Geert, > > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. As > dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not. > Seems we've been through this before in 2022 (sorry that it's Google Groups wh

Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 19, 2025, Hans wrote: > Hi Geert, > > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after > boot. As dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it > does not. Is this PC physically leaving your LAN? If not, changing the MAC isn't going

Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Hans
Hi Geert, the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. As dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not. My background thouhgts are: When using maachanger in TAILS, then it will never protect the victim. Of course, one can always write a script

Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-18 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-18, Geert Stappers wrote: >> What did I miss, if any? > > Probably https://xyproblem.info I believe the problem is that the mac address change that he implements manually with macchanger doesn't survive a reboot of the system. It seems you would have to configure /etc/default/maccha

Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-18 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 04:28:31PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > maybe I missed something, > but during install I can chose, if macchanger will > change the macaddress, whenever a network interface comes up. > > As this happens during boot, too, I wondered, why I

macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-18 Thread Hans
Hi folks, maybe I missed something, but during install I can chose, if macchanger will change the macaddress, whenever a network interface comes up. As this happens during boot, too, I wondered, why I instead get still the original macaddress. Is this just a bug, or do I have to add extra

Re: Doesn't boot into GUI after Trixie upgrade

2025-03-15 Thread David Wright
(on an ordinary > > AMD64 desktop running xfce and lightDM).After the upgrade it no longer > > boots into the GUI. I have to login and then run startx. Why? What's the > > recommended way make it boot into the GUI? > > Perhaps check    systemctl status display-manage

Re: Doesn't boot into GUI after Trixie upgrade

2025-03-15 Thread Eben King
e it boot into the GUI? Another annoyance is that after booting and starting the X session, num lock is on. It never used to be. How can this be fixed? Check https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=17485 If that fixes it once but not every time, xfce has a list of commands to run on startup.

Re: Doesn't boot into GUI after Trixie upgrade

2025-03-15 Thread halbtaxabo-...@yahoo.com
longer boots > into the GUI. I have to login and then run startx. Why? What's the > recommended way make it boot into the GUI? Perhaps check    systemctl status display-manager.service I ran : sudo systemctl status display-manager.service >out.txtbefore typing startx.The cont

Re: Doesn't boot into GUI after Trixie upgrade

2025-03-15 Thread David Wright
hat's the > recommended way make it boot into the GUI? Perhaps checksystemctl status display-manager.service > Another annoyance is that after booting and starting the X session, num lock > is on. It never used to be. How can this be fixed? My desktops have always had this set i

Re: Doesn't boot into GUI after Trixie upgrade

2025-03-15 Thread Richmond
"halbtaxabo-...@yahoo.com" writes: > I upgraded from bookworm to trixie a couple of weeks ago (on an > ordinary AMD64 desktop running xfce and lightDM). > After the upgrade it no longer boots into the GUI. I have to login > and then run startx. Why? What's the recommen

Re: Doesn't boot into GUI after Trixie upgrade

2025-03-15 Thread Hans
hat's the > recommended way make it boot into the GUI? Another annoyance is that after > booting and starting the X session, num lock is on. It never used to be. > How can this be fixed? Looks like X is not starting. What graphics hardware do you have? If it is a NVidia card: Was t

Doesn't boot into GUI after Trixie upgrade

2025-03-15 Thread halbtaxabo-...@yahoo.com
I upgraded from bookworm to trixie a couple of weeks ago (on an ordinary AMD64 desktop running xfce and lightDM).After the upgrade it no longer boots into the GUI. I have to login and then run startx. Why? What's the recommended way make it boot into the GUI? Another annoyance is that

Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-12 Thread hlyg
Thank Wright! debian installer is netinst 12.8 since "ran successfully" can't be found in syslog, grub installation must fail but i didn't see any error msg during installation, it's rather dishonest perhaps they hesitate whether to remove freebsd bootloader i don't have time to debug for th

Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Feb 2025 at 13:59:11 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > i can't find "ran successfully" in entire syslog with editor's search > function That's because Grub wasn't installed in the MBR, hence explaining why the FreeBSD loader wasn't touched. > 2nd disk has 4 partitions, 2 for stretch and deb12, ins

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread hlyg
Thank Wright! i can't find "ran successfully" in entire syslog with editor's search function 2nd disk has 4 partitions, 2 for stretch and deb12, installer seems to parse their grub.cfg, making log very long Feb 11 08:54:28 in-target: Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version^

Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Feb 2025 at 08:33:57 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > Thank Curley again! manually editing grub.cfg is amateur as it is > auto-generated. but my stanza is simple, it's easy to add it if > removed. > > if it were Windows, it would be much easier > > i examine syslog, among many lines probing each

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread hlyg
Thank Curley again! manually editing grub.cfg is amateur as it is auto-generated. but my stanza is simple, it's easy to add it if removed. if it were Windows, it would be much easier i examine syslog, among many lines probing each partition for OS, i can't find how i specify installation targe

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:44:58 +0800 hlyg wrote: > Thank Curley, but i have solved on my own Excellent. > > isn't installer syslog supposed to record my choice during > installation? Yes, and a couple other files in /var/log/installation. > > i let bios boot 2nd dis

(solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-10 Thread hlyg
Thank Curley, but i have solved on my own isn't installer syslog supposed to record my choice during installation? i let bios boot 2nd disk, which also has deb12, run update-grub now it can boot newly-installed deb12 on 1st disk, then follow stanza at https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/m

Re: anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-10 Thread Charles Curley
rub-installer: Installing for x86_64-efi platform. syslog:Dec 3 17:45:46 grub-installer: Installation finished. No error reported. syslog:Dec 3 17:45:46 grub-installer: info: grub-install ran successfully What you want to know is where exactly grub was installed. For grub to boot both operating

anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-10 Thread hlyg
up iucode-tool (2.3.1-3) ...^M Feb 11 08:55:09 in-target: Setting up intel-microcode (3.20240910.1~deb12u1) ...^M Feb 11 08:55:09 in-target: intel-microcode: microcode will be updated at next boot^M Feb 11 08:55:09 in-target: Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.142+deb12u1) ...^M Feb 11 0

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-05 Thread john doe
On 2/3/25 23:39, Automætic wrote: Hi, I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both the /boot partition and the root filesystem encrypted: - /dev/nvme0n1p1 -> /EFI - /dev/nvme0n1p2 -> LUKS2 (pbkdf2) -> /boot - /dev/nvme0n1p3 -> LUKS2 -> LVM conta

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread Michel Verdier
/tmp/initramfs/ to review main/cryptroot/crypttab, but it only contains > an entry for lvm_crypt, boot_crypt is missing. It seems the right way as initrd is loaded from /boot which is already unencrypted. And this is why update-initramfs filters your /etc/crypttab and puts only root fs in in

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread Loren M. Lang
n on my workstation, with both > > > the /boot partition and the root filesystem encrypted: > > > - /dev/nvme0n1p1 -> /EFI > > > - /dev/nvme0n1p2 -> LUKS2 (pbkdf2) -> /boot > > > - /dev/nvme0n1p3 -> LUKS2 -> LVM containing root and other volumes &

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 12:18:10AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 10:39:25PM +, Automætic wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both the > > /boot partition and the root filesystem

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 10:39:25PM +, Automætic wrote: > Hi, > > I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both the > /boot partition and the root filesystem encrypted: > - /dev/nvme0n1p1 -> /EFI > - /dev/nvme0n1p2 -> LUKS2 (pbkdf2

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, From what I understand, a year ago, grub2 upstream LUKS2 support was still only initial and thus not complete: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?55093 So it still probably better to stick with LUKS1 for /boot for now

Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-03 Thread Automætic
Hi, I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both the /boot partition and the root filesystem encrypted: - /dev/nvme0n1p1 -> /EFI - /dev/nvme0n1p2 -> LUKS2 (pbkdf2) -> /boot - /dev/nvme0n1p3 -> LUKS2 -> LVM containing root and other volumes T

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 2025-02-01 12:39, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:07:49AM -0700, g...@extremeground.com wrote: On 2025-02-01 09:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: BTW: the same happens with the previous kernel. Also, this is a Debian/Buster server running on AMD64 hardware. I've fsck'd th

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:07:49AM -0700, g...@extremeground.com wrote: > On 2025-02-01 09:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: > > BTW: the same happens with the previous kernel. Also, this is a > Debian/Buster server running on AMD64 hardware. I've fsck'd the partition > and it's fine. > > I reboo

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables [RESOLVED]

2025-02-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 2025-02-01 11:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: I get the message right after the boot sequence declares the / drive clean. The subject message repeats 3 times then the system boot stops. It still responds to the keyboard but there is no system to log into. When I go into the system in a

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread gary
On 2025-02-01 09:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: I get the message right after the boot sequence declares the / drive clean. The subject message repeats 3 times then the system boot stops. It still responds to the keyboard but there is no system to log into. When I go into the system in a

boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread gary
I get the message right after the boot sequence declares the / drive clean. The subject message repeats 3 times then the system boot stops. It still responds to the keyboard but there is no system to log into. When I go into the system in a chroot after booting with systemrescue, I find that

Re: secure boot key enrolling questions

2025-01-05 Thread David Wright
On Sun 05 Jan 2025 at 17:17:32 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > Anil F Duggirala (12025-01-05): > > sudo mv /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/61- > > gdm.rules.bak > > Unrelated to the actual issue: IIRC you can achieve the same result of > disabling a system udev rule by cr

Re: Re: Re: secure boot key enrolling questions

2025-01-05 Thread Nicolas George
Anil F Duggirala (12025-01-05): > sudo mv /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/61- > gdm.rules.bak Unrelated to the actual issue: IIRC you can achieve the same result of disabling a system udev rule by creating an empty rule file in /etc with the exact same name. It has the ben

Re: Re: Re: secure boot key enrolling questions

2025-01-05 Thread Anil F Duggirala
x27; > /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-power-management.conf 5. apt remove xserver-xorg-video-intel. (gave me an error on one boot (wifi?) but the error didn't come up in subsequent boots). And finally I did: 6. sudo mv /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/61- gdm.rules.bak I

Re: Re: secure boot key enrolling questions

2025-01-05 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
On Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 09:07:09AM -0500, Anil F Duggirala wrote: > Thank you both for your instructions. I have followed the exact > instructions as proposed by Oli and have managed to successfully > install and load the nvidia driver. > > However, apparently I am now stuck in an X session instea

Re: Re: secure boot key enrolling questions

2025-01-05 Thread Anil F Duggirala
Thank you both for your instructions. I have followed the exact instructions as proposed by Oli and have managed to successfully install and load the nvidia driver. However, apparently I am now stuck in an X session instead of the Wayland session I had before. I have followed the additional instr

Re: Re: secure boot key enrolling questions

2025-01-05 Thread George at Clug
Are you using Gnome or KDE? (or something else). I ask this as my KDE with the packaged Nvidia 535 drivers is unable to run Wayland. So for now I use X11 with KDE. It is my understanding that KDE will work with Wayland when using the Nvidia stable version 560.35.03 however this version has y

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