Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-12 Thread Charles Curley
Thanks for the feedback. On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 23:35:05 +0100 Linux-Fan wrote: > Charles Curley writes: > > > https://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/index.html > > > > [...] > > Thanks for sharing! I appreciate that I am not the only one with a > backup system com

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-05 Thread Linux-Fan
Charles Curley writes: On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 20:24:52 +0100 Konstantin Nebel wrote: [...] > So now I am thinking. How should I approach backups. On windows it > does magically backups and remind me when they didnt run for a while. > I like that attitude. > > On linux with all that decision fr

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 20:24:52 +0100 Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Now i attached a 4 tb drive to my pi and I decided what the heck, why > not doing backups now. > > So now I am thinking. How should I approach backups. On windows it > does magically backups and remind me when they didnt run for a whil

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> On linux with all that decision freedom it can be good and bad cause you have > to think about things :D All the answers I've seen mention the use of "cron" but I'm not sure what they mean by that, nor am I sure what is your typical use of the desktop (e.g. is it always ON?), so I think it's wor

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Suppose that you backup 2000 files in a day and inside this backup a chunk > is deduped and referenced by 300 files. If the deduped chunk is broken > I think you will lost it on 300 referenced files/chunks. This is not good > for me. I don't know what other backup software does, but at least `bu

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-05 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 04/11/19 20:43, deloptes wrote: Alessandro Baggi wrote: If I'm not wrong deduplication "is a technique for eliminating duplicate copies of repeating data". I'm not a borg expert and it performs deduplication on data chunk. Suppose that you backup 2000 files in a day and inside this backup

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 06:01:54 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > These days I use rsync with the --link-dest option to make > complete Time-Machine(tm) style backups using hardlinks to > avoid file duplication in the common case. In this > scenario, the top-level directory is typically named based > on date

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Joel Roth
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 06:01:54 -1000 > Joel Roth wrote: > > > These days I use rsync with the --link-dest option to make > > complete Time-Machine(tm) style backups using hardlinks to > > avoid file duplication in the common case. In this > > scenario,

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread deloptes
Alessandro Baggi wrote: > If I'm not wrong deduplication "is a technique for eliminating duplicate > copies of repeating data". > > I'm not a borg expert and it performs deduplication on data chunk. > > Suppose that you backup 2000 files in a day and inside this backup a > chunk is deduped and r

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019, Konstantin Nebel wrote: > So now I am thinking. How should I approach backups. On windows it does > magically backups and remind me when they didnt run for a while. I like that > attitude. (...) > I like to turn off > my computer at night. So a backup running in night is not

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 04/11/19 15:41, deloptes wrote: Not sure if true - for example you make daily, weekly and monthly backups (classical) Lets focus on the daily part. On day 3 the files is broken. You have to recover from day 2. The file is not broken for day 2 - correct?! If I'm not wrong deduplication "is a

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Linux-Fan
deloptes writes: Alessandro Baggi wrote: > Borg seems very promising but I performs only push request at the moment > and I need pull request. It offers deduplication, encryption and much > more. > > One word on deduplication: it is a great feature to save space, with > deduplication compressio

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread deloptes
Alessandro Baggi wrote: > Borg seems very promising but I performs only push request at the moment > and I need pull request. It offers deduplication, encryption and much > more. > > One word on deduplication: it is a great feature to save space, with > deduplication compression ops (that could r

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 02:47:46AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Just 4 or 5 days ago, I had to recover the linuxcnc configs from a backup of the pi3, making a scratch dir here at home, then scanned my database for the last level0 of the pi3b, pulled that out with amrecover then copied what I needed

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I'll respond on the issue of triggering the backup, rather than the specific backup software itself, because my solution for triggering is separate from the backup software I use (rdiff-backup). I trigger (some) backup jobs via systemd units, that are triggered by the insertion of my removeable

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-04 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 02/11/19 20:24, Konstantin Nebel wrote: Hi, this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and already after a couple days I do not know how I lived without it. So why Raspberrypi. In the past I

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2019 01:49:15 ghe wrote: > > On Nov 2, 2019, at 05:42 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: > > > > Konstantin Nebel writes: > >> this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a > >> Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great > >> device) and > >

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread ghe
> On Nov 2, 2019, at 05:42 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: > > Konstantin Nebel writes: > >> this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux >> destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and > > [...] > >> Now i attached a 4 tb drive to my pi and I

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread elvis
On 3/11/19 5:24 am, Konstantin Nebel wrote: Hi, this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and already after a couple days I do not know how I lived without it. So why Raspberrypi. In the past

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Hi, > > > Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it wormly. > > I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I used borg > in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want to focu

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Linux-Fan
Konstantin Nebel writes: this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and [...] Now i attached a 4 tb drive to my pi and I decided what the heck, why not doing backups now. So now I am thinkin

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 21:30:32 +0100 Konstantin Nebel wrote: > But I really want to focus on how > to trigger the backup in an automated way and not in which tool is > recommended to use. cron, unless the program you select has a built-in equivalent. But it's hard to get good backups while the ma

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread deloptes
Konstantin Nebel wrote: >> Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it wormly. > > I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I used > borg in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want to focus > on how to trigger the backup in an automa

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Dominic Knight
On Sat, 2019-11-02 at 20:24 +0100, Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Hi, > > > dual boot and Windows on default (for games, shame on me) and I might > switch > cause first Gaming on Linux is really becoming rly good and second I > could buy Missing out answers to your question :) Yes Gaming on Linux is b

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Christopher David Howie
On 11/2/2019 3:24 PM, Konstantin Nebel wrote: Whoever read till the end Im thankful and ready to hear your opinion. I use restic (the static binaries from the Github release page, not the Debian package which falls out of date too quickly) and invoke it from crontab. On my LAN server, the sc

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 November 2019 16:30:32 Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Hi, > > > Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it > > wormly. > > I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I > used borg in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want >

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Konstantin Nebel
Hi, > Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it wormly. I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I used borg in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want to focus on how to trigger the backup in an automated way and not in which tool

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread deloptes
Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Whoever read till the end Im thankful and ready to hear your opinion. There are many good solutions out there. I can not say anything about your specific use case. Usually you would do a snapshot of the partition and backup, but I am not so far here. I do classical file

Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Konstantin Nebel
Hi, this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and already after a couple days I do not know how I lived without it. So why Raspberrypi. In the past I decided not to do backups on purpose. I decid