Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-11 Thread Ali Milis
Avi Greenbury wrote: > Ali Milis wrote: >> Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. > Or if the defaults are acceptable to you. ROFL, for years I tried to fantasize that Ubuntu is defaults are acceptable. > Personally, I find that Debian on laptops requires more time to set > up than Ubuntu d

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-10 Thread Vasco Costa
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 20:43 +0700, Ali Milis wrote: > > I wouldnt bother, try Ubuntu. > > Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. > I am on the way back to Debian too. > Unfortunately, stable means also ancient :( > > -- > Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis > Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-10 Thread Avi Greenbury
Ali Milis wrote: > > I wouldnt bother, try Ubuntu. > > Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. Or if the defaults are acceptable to you. Unless it's something other than configuration that you're getting at? Personally, I find that Debian on laptops requires more time to set up than Ubuntu

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-10 Thread Ali Milis
> I wouldnt bother, try Ubuntu. Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. I am on the way back to Debian too. Unfortunately, stable means also ancient :( -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat January 9 2010, Andrei Popescu wrote: > You might want to try wicd as well. I just installed lenny/stable on a > friends network and network-manager (a.k.a. nework mangler) simply > wouldn't connect to my AP. wicd worked right away. I second that.. I had problems with my laptop & wireless,

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-09 Thread Vasco Costa
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 00:55 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri,08.Jan.10, 00:02:50, Vasco Costa wrote: > > > > Lenny supports all my hardware except my Atheros wireless card (ath9k). > > Backports came to rescue with linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686. > > You might want to try wicd as well. I just

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,08.Jan.10, 00:02:50, Vasco Costa wrote: > > Lenny supports all my hardware except my Atheros wireless card (ath9k). > Backports came to rescue with linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686. You might want to try wicd as well. I just installed lenny/stable on a friends network and network-manager (a.k

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Miles Bader
Brent Clark writes: > I think if you run Testing, its no different if you run / use FreeBSD > ports. You just need to know, and guess if its safe to do a dist-upgrade > or upgrade only certain packages, but 99% of the time, I just > dist-upgrade, and as said .. no problems here. Even Ubuntu, Ive

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Vasco Costa
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:29 -0700, bosco wrote: > On 2010-01-07 14:40:02 -0700, Paul Cartwright said: > > > On Thu January 7 2010, bosco wrote: > >> You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of > >> unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good > >> group

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread bosco
On 2010-01-07 14:40:02 -0700, Paul Cartwright said: On Thu January 7 2010, bosco wrote: You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good group at the Sidux forum. but no email list.. I installed sidux on my la

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu January 7 2010, bosco wrote: > You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of > unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good > group at the Sidux forum. but no email list.. I installed sidux on my laptop, getting rid of Ubuntu.. still have lenny on my

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread bosco
You might take a look at Sidux, it is a distro compiled out of unstable. I used it for a while. It is well supported and has a good group at the Sidux forum. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Vasco Costa
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 09:33 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 20:28:08 +, > Vasco Costa wrote : > > [...] > > By the way, in case I want to go back to a rolling release scheme, how > > does Debian testing/unstable behave in this regard for an experienced > > power user? I know

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread didier gaumet
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 20:28:08 +, Vasco Costa wrote : [...] > By the way, in case I want to go back to a rolling release scheme, how > does Debian testing/unstable behave in this regard for an experienced > power user? I know all the nuts and bolts of Archlinux, including > using the testing rep

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Mark
>On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Matthew Moore >wrote: >On Wednesday January 6 2010 1:52:11 pm Brent Clark wrote: > On 06/01/2010 22:28, Vasco Costa wrote: > > I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) > > > > To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using > > stable in ser

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Matthew Moore
On Wednesday January 6 2010 1:52:11 pm Brent Clark wrote: > On 06/01/2010 22:28, Vasco Costa wrote: > > I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) > > > > To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using > > stable in servers. I've only switched from Debian testing/unstable to >

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Jochen Schulz
Vasco Costa: > > I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) I never switched during the whole time I have used Linux and never regretted when I touched another distribution. :) > By the way, in case I want to go back to a rolling release scheme, how > does Debian testing/unstable behave in this r

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Brent Clark
On 06/01/2010 22:28, Vasco Costa wrote: I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using stable in servers. I've only switched from Debian testing/unstable to Gentoo and then Archlinux. Now that I also value a stable desktop I'm stic

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Vasco Costa
I'm planning to stay forever this time. :) To be really honest I've never really quit Debian since I kept using stable in servers. I've only switched from Debian testing/unstable to Gentoo and then Archlinux. Now that I also value a stable desktop I'm sticking with Lenny on my laptop. By the way,

Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-06 Thread Vasco Costa
Alright, I'm back to Debian after having used it extensively in the late 90's and early 2000's. By that time I was a regular "RPM hell" sufferer, thus APT was the main feature which made me switch to Debian. Initially I was comfortable sticking with stable releases, however the will to stay bleedi