Re: web browser recommendation

2025-04-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/3/25 03:23, Marc Shapiro wrote: I was looking into Brave the other day, but what stopped me was the lack of anything to replace Video Download Helper.  Am I missing something? Is there a way to download YouTube videos in Brave, or do I stick with Firefox? Marc To download youtube vide

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-04-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:16:52 -0400 Eben King wrote: Hello Eben, >On 4/1/25 14:02, Brad Rogers wrote: >> >> The error message that now displays, is thus; I wrote none of that. You do Bret Busby, who is far more knowledgeable than I with regard to this matter, a disservice. Please take more care

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-04-01 Thread Eben King
On 4/1/25 14:02, Brad Rogers wrote: The error message that now displays, is thus; " Ad blockers violate YouTube's Terms of Service It looks like you may be using an ad blocker. Video playback is blocked unless YouTube is allowlisted or the ad blocker is disabled. Ads allow YouTube to be used

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-04-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:14:18 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: Hello Marc, >Yes, but that version does not download from YouTube.  I have yt-dlp, Ah; I have no interest in yt. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immedia

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-04-01 Thread Bret Busby
ed in Brave. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/video-downloadhelper/lmjnegcaeklhafolokijcfjliaokphfk Yes, but that version does not download from YouTube.  I have yt-dlp, so I can use Brave to find what I want, and then download with yt-dlp.  It would be nice to have something in the br

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-31 Thread Marc Shapiro
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/video-downloadhelper/lmjnegcaeklhafolokijcfjliaokphfk Yes, but that version does not download from YouTube.  I have yt-dlp, so I can use Brave to find what I want, and then download with yt-dlp.  It would be nice to have something in the browser, but yt-dlp works fine fro

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-31 Thread Marc Shapiro
heard* of Manifest until that moment, so I was starting from square zero. (Short answer: Manifest is a sort of browser extension API. It defines what capabilities an extension may use. Google is phasing out version 2 of the Manifest API in favor of version 3, which offers fewer features.) Howev

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
? > You may want to try out KDE's Falkon Web Browser. It is fast. It comes with ad blocking. Cosmetically it looks good in KDE. > > Marc > > > On 3/6/25 1:25 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 21:50:27 +0100, KISER JD wrote: > >> The C

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 12:23:04 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: Hello Marc, >I was looking into Brave the other day, but what stopped me was the >lack of anything to replace Video Download Helper. I've got VDH installed in Brave. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/video-downloadhelper/lmjnegcaekl

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-15 Thread Ken Burns
user opts-in to them).  It is one thing to provide a free, open source, community-maintained ad blocker, it is another thing altogether to make it your business model to replace someone else's ads with your own.  I cannot fathom how this could be considered ethical at all. The browser

web browser recommendation

2025-03-11 Thread songbird
i currently use firefox and have mostly been ok with it. would like to try something else. currently running testing. any that have any filtering capabilities? yt and a few other sites are intolerable without a decent blocker. songbird

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 7/3/25 01:57, Bret Busby wrote: On 7/3/25 01:32, songbird wrote:    i currently use firefox and have mostly been ok with it.    would like to try something else.    currently running testing.    any that have any filtering capabilities?  yt and a few other sites are intolerable without a d

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-11 Thread Eben King
On 3/6/25 12:32, songbird wrote: any that have any filtering capabilities? yt and a few other sites are intolerable without a decent blocker. If you're talking about ads, Noscript and Ghostery on FF take care of them for me.

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-11 Thread fxkl47BF
is anyone using opera

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-11 Thread D MacDougall
x27; in the URL and then it went back to the javascript page. I agree with you about not doing financial stuff on a phone, but I do sometimes do web browsing on the phone.  I prefer not to because the screen size is too limiting.  I did it that particular time because I had recommended Duckduckgo a

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-10 Thread Oliver Schode
ince privacy is a huge field I add specifically that at least on Android it even does a decent job at anti-fingerprinting, as far as that is still possible and for those who care. In this respect too and again speaking of Android, I'm not aware of another browser that comes close. Or even cares. Com

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-09 Thread debian-user
D MacDougall wrote: > On 3/8/25 12:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > That's just a blank page except for a picture of a duck, the word > > DuckDuckGo and a search box. No explanation of anything at any > > length? > > > Very odd.  On my phone I see exactly what you see plus several

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-09 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 13:39:18 -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > On Sat Mar 8 13:29:36 2025 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > D MacDougall wrote: > > >> https://duckduckgo.com > > > > > > That's just a blank page except for a picture of a duck, the word > > > D

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 11:34:41 -0400, deb...@kcburns.com wrote: > On 3/9/25 1:05 AM, Christopher David Howie wrote: > > Many of my friends keep recommending Brave, but I cannot get past the > > fact that their business model is to strip ads from sites and insert > > their own ads instead (if the

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-09 Thread debian
user opts-in to them).  It is one thing to provide a free, open source, community-maintained ad blocker, it is another thing altogether to make it your business model to replace someone else's ads with your own.  I cannot fathom how this could be considered ethical at all. The browser

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On 08/03/2025 22:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 13:39:18 -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On Sat Mar 8 13:29:36 2025 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: D MacDougall wrote: https://duckduckgo.com That's just a blank page except for a picture of a duck, the word DuckDuckGo and a

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-09 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ads with your own. I cannot fathom how this could be > considered ethical at all. Honey browser extension for the win! > The browser might provide a good user experience but their business > model is *slimy as hell* and I cannot in good conscience support them in > any way. Jeff

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread D MacDougall
On 3/8/25 12:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > That's just a blank page except for a picture of a duck, the word > DuckDuckGo and a search box. No explanation of anything at any length? Very odd.  On my phone I see exactly what you see plus several other things on the page.  One other thin

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
rs never deal with HTML. There are also server-side components that can remove unneeded whitespace and unneeded end-of-lines, like mod_pagespeed. They are used to improve the time to send and load a page in the browser. (Sorry to hang this off John's message. I could not find Greg's message). Jeff

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Christopher David Howie
de a free, open source, community-maintained ad blocker, it is another thing altogether to make it your business model to replace someone else's ads with your own. I cannot fathom how this could be considered ethical at all. The browser might provide a good user experience but their busin

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Christopher David Howie
On 3/7/25 11:49 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I believe all the major browsers are using Manifest v3 nowadays. Most support Mv3 now, but AFAIK only Chrome has actually disabled Mv2 support. All of my Mv2 extensions continue to work on Firefox. -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/3/25 06:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: P.S. looking at the HTML source with Ctrl-U, it's all one line. Seriously, who does that? hobbit:~$ xclip -o | wc 02960 44363 44 kilobytes of HTML/CSS/Javascript, all in one. stupid. line. Well, they found a way to make me stop trying to re

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 07:04:30 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > That long line of code, might not be completely stupid. It might have some > hidden AI thing (that they figure no member of the public would find, due to > the length of the line), that starts playing "Rubber Ducky, you're the one", > in a

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > looking at the HTML source with Ctrl-U, it's all one line. Seriously, > who does that? "Website builders" and "content management systems". Modern Web designers never deal with HTML. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 13:39:18 -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Sat Mar 8 13:29:36 2025 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > D MacDougall wrote: > >> https://duckduckgo.com > > > > That's just a blank page except for a picture of a duck, the word > > DuckDuckGo and a search box. No explanation

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Charlie Gibbs
proving to the >>> point that I seldom have cause to use any other. Along the way I >>> discovered that they also make a browser. >> ... >> The browser is free of charge. They have about 3 services that >> you can subscribe to by the month or year such as a V

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread debian-user
other.  Along the way I > > > discovered that they also make a browser. > ... > The browser is free of charge.  They have about 3 services that you > can subscribe to by the month or year such as a VPN but they are > entirely separate from the browser.  They have a websit

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread D MacDougall
On 2025-03-08, D MacDougall wrote: ... > I've been using DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine for > years and have found that it's gradually been improving to the point that > I seldom have cause to use any other.  Along the way I discovered that > they also make a brow

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Greg
rimary search engine for > years and have found that it's gradually been improving to the point that > I seldom have cause to use any other.  Along the way I discovered that > they also make a browser.  They make it for all the MS and Apple computers > and for both Apple and Android

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Roger Price
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > Pi-hole is your friend https://pi-hole.net/ Interesting, but for the moment I don't fancy pi-hole as my DNS server. Roger

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Roger Price
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025, Chris Green wrote: > > > ... some humongous hosts file to block ads > > > wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/StevenBlack/hosts/master/hosts > 131425 ad servers. Fantastic! Thanks, Roger

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread debian
https://itsfoss.com/brave-vs-vivaldi/ https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/how-does-vivaldi-compare-to-brave-in-terms-of-privacy/17715 and several other sites. ... wanted maximum privacy in a browser, didn't want integrated email & calendar, so chose Brave Browser. Ken

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Chris Green
Roger Price wrote: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2025, Greg wrote: > > > On 2025-03-07, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I believe David Wright uses some humongous hosts file to block ads on > > his computer rather than a brower add-on (if I'm remembering and > > understanding > > correctly). > > I do something si

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread Roger Price
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-07, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I believe David Wright uses some humongous hosts file to block ads on > his computer rather than a brower add-on (if I'm remembering and understanding > correctly). I do something similar but it's limited. What's the best w

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-08 Thread D MacDougall
have found that it's gradually been improving to the point that I seldom have cause to use any other.  Along the way I discovered that they also make a browser.  They make it for all the MS and Apple computers and for both Apple and Android phones.  Since Android is the only one of those that I use,

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 07 Mar 08:09 -0600, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > My answer is to block as much as possible at my router. As I run > > OpenWrt for my router, I have the Adblock package installed and running. > > This way I get blocking applied for other

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-07 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, from what I understand, the point is not if a web browser implements Manifest V3, but how it does so. Chrome disables certain features (blocking WebRequest) used by adblockers. Chromium still allows to install Ublock Origin (normal version, not Lite version) but warns that perhaps in

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
, it informed me > that it was disabling uBlock Origin. Thus began my own search for > some answers. I'd never even *heard* of Manifest until that moment, > so I was starting from square zero. > > (Short answer: Manifest is a sort of browser extension API. It defines &g

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-07 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-07, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I do have uBlock Origin installed and working in the browsers as well. >> Getting used to this and then using my phone on mobile data is a jarring >> experience! > > I don't understand. Why don't you install uBlock Origin on your phone? I use a "DNS privé"

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-07 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, Nate Bargmann wrote: > My answer is to block as much as possible at my router. As I run > OpenWrt for my router, I have the Adblock package installed and running. > This way I get blocking applied for other devices such as our phones and > Chromium when it disables uBlock orig

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 06 Mar 21:57 -0600, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I do have uBlock Origin installed and working in the browsers as well. > > Getting used to this and then using my phone on mobile data is a jarring > > experience! > > I don't understand. Why don't you install uBlock Origin on your phone? O

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-07 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > One of the possible answers was to switch to "uBlock Origin Lite", > which is less capable (it can't "phone home" to update its block lists > because Manifest v3 doesn't permit that), but may still be good enough > for most people. > > Another answer is to use Firefox. I

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/03/2025 04:25, Greg Wooledge wrote: One of the possible answers was to switch to "uBlock Origin Lite", which is less capable (it can't "phone home" to update its block lists because Manifest v3 doesn't permit that), but may still be good enough for most people. I believed that main limita

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I do have uBlock Origin installed and working in the browsers as well. > Getting used to this and then using my phone on mobile data is a jarring > experience! I don't understand. Why don't you install uBlock Origin on your phone? Stefan "using uMatrix on his phone"

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Nate Bargmann
My answer is to block as much as possible at my router. As I run OpenWrt for my router, I have the Adblock package installed and running. This way I get blocking applied for other devices such as our phones and Chromium when it disables uBlock origin. There are other options I'm aware of but have

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Richmond
songbird writes: > i currently use firefox and have mostly been ok with it. > > would like to try something else. > > currently running testing. > > any that have any filtering capabilities? yt and a few > other sites are intolerable without a decent blocker. > > > songbird If you wer

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Andy Smith
m, so strictly worse - A skin on Firefox, so may as well be Firefox - Deeply entwined with cryptocurrency bros or AI grift, so unacceptable - Not production ready > any that have any filtering capabilities? yt and a few > other sites are intolerable without a decent blocker. I am not

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
for some answers. I'd never even *heard* of Manifest until that moment, so I was starting from square zero. (Short answer: Manifest is a sort of browser extension API. It defines what capabilities an extension may use. Google is phasing out version 2 of the Manifest API in favor of version 3

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread KISER JD
On Thu, Mar 6, 2025, at 18:32, songbird wrote: > i currently use firefox and have mostly been ok with it. > > would like to try something else. > > currently running testing. > > any that have any filtering capabilities? yt and a few > other sites are intolerable without a decent blocker. >

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Chris Green
Bret Busby wrote: > On 7/3/25 01:32, songbird wrote: > >i currently use firefox and have mostly been ok with it. > > > >would like to try something else. > > > >currently running testing. > > > >any that have any filtering capabilities? yt and a few > > other sites are intolera

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Frank McCormick
Vivaldi is my backup browser. It's based on Chromium. Frank

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Bret Busby
On 7/3/25 01:32, songbird wrote: i currently use firefox and have mostly been ok with it. would like to try something else. currently running testing. any that have any filtering capabilities? yt and a few other sites are intolerable without a decent blocker. songbird Try t

Re: Cookies in Links Web Browser

2025-02-14 Thread Oliver Schode
On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:52:38 -0800 David Hoff Jr wrote: > I have a fresh install on Debian 12 with all updates. I am trying > to use Links web browser to access the dailycaller.com web site but am > being blocked. A message says to enable cookies which I have tried > using "link

Re: Cookies in Links Web Browser

2025-02-14 Thread Will Mengarini
* David Hoff Jr [25-02/13=Th 15:52 -0800]: > I have a fresh install on Debian 12 with all updates. I am trying > to use Links web browser to access the dailycaller.com web site but am > being blocked. A message says to enable cookies which I have tried using > "link

Cookies in Links Web Browser

2025-02-13 Thread David Hoff Jr
I have a fresh install on Debian 12 with all updates. I am trying to use Links web browser to access the dailycaller.com web site but am being blocked. A message says to enable cookies which I have tried using "links -enable-cookies dailycaller.com", but to no avail. Is there a solution

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-13 Thread Chris Green
;> I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific to > >> particular applications) > >> - *browser alternatives > >> - BROWSER environment > >> - mailcap for text/html > >> - XDG configuration > >> > >> sensible-browser,

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-13 Thread Greg
des settings specific to >> particular applications) >> - *browser alternatives >> - BROWSER environment >> - mailcap for text/html >> - XDG configuration >> >> sensible-browser, "open", and xdg-open just use some of these options. > > There

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 13/02/2025 09:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:56:47 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: - *browser alternatives - BROWSER environment - mailcap for text/html I have realized that I do not have an example of an application that determines https: scheme handler from mailcap (it is

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
Max Nikulin wrote: > On 13/02/2025 01:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now Debian has*two* completely separate > > ways to specify a default application for a role. > > I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific to > particular applications) &

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
particular applications) > - *browser alternatives > - BROWSER environment > - mailcap for text/html > - XDG configuration Yes, but mailcap and XDG aren't Debian specific. Alternatives and the $BROWSER variable (which is what the sensible-browser shell script uses) are Debia

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 13/02/2025 01:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: Now Debian has*two* completely separate ways to specify a default application for a role. I believed there are at least 4 ways (besides settings specific to particular applications) - *browser alternatives - BROWSER environment - mailcap for text

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:34:32 -0600, David Wright wrote: > urlCommand "sensible-browser '%s'" hobbit:~$ type -a sensible-browser sensible-browser is /usr/bin/sensible-browser sensible-browser is /bin/sensible-browser hobbit:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/sensible-browser -rwx

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-02-12): >> What is going on? You suggested examining the source code. > > No, I suggested reading the documentation. Others have suggested other > avenues that lead to understanding. These are good answers. The > suggestions to uninstall and ran

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-02-12): > What is going on? You suggested examining the source code. No, I suggested reading the documentation. Others have suggested other avenues that lead to understanding. These are good answers. The suggestions to uninstall and randomly fiddle with the order are polluting the go

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Nicolas George wrote: > > The only way to achieve a reliable result is to understand what is going > on. I am flabbergasted that so many people on this list do not start What is going on? You suggested examining the source code. For the end user, this might be arduous task at best.

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
thread is so long. However I am still >> curious whether xfce-terminal respects /etc/xdg/mimeapps.list or >> ~/.config/mimeapps.list. My expectation it should. > > The OP needs to delve into what's calling up the browser in each and > every case, unfortunately. Some here have

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-02-12): > Simply reversing the installation order of the two browsers seems the > most direct and easiest solution. It might achieve the result. A solution… What will the OP do if they install another browser to try something and it becomes the default one? Uninstall them a

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread David Wright
whether xfce-terminal respects /etc/xdg/mimeapps.list or > ~/.config/mimeapps.list. My expectation it should. The OP needs to delve into what's calling up the browser in each and every case, unfortunately. Some here have fixated on order of installation, and that might be a fix for /et

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:36:46 - (UTC) > Greg wrote: > > Hello Greg, > >>What exactly is he after? I was under the impression it was setting the >>default browser to Vivaldi. > > Yes, but as has been explained, there ar

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Chris Green wrote: > Anssi Saari wrote: > > Chris Green writes: > > > > > Installing epiphany just added it as a choice but left vivaldi as the > > > configured browser, but still epiphany grabbed everything. > > > > Have you considered y

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:36:46 - (UTC) Greg wrote: Hello Greg, >What exactly is he after? I was under the impression it was setting the >default browser to Vivaldi. Yes, but as has been explained, there are multiple ways in which a browser can be chosen. Some, most notably, circumv

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/02/2025 22:09, Greg wrote: On 2025-02-12, Max Nikulin wrote: Certainly, but before delving into source code I would try the standard (XDG) way to configure media types and applications associations. Unfortunately, as Greg Wooledge has already pointed out, there is no universal standard.

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
y first, and then > Vivaldi, instead of the other way around. > > Problem solved. > > That said, I believe the three-browser problem is not generally solvable. > > :-) > Very true! I'm not even sure the one browser problem has a solution! -- Chris Green ·

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
ee of successfully achieving exactly > what Chris is after. Hello, What exactly is he after? I was under the impression it was setting the default browser to Vivaldi.

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:09:38 - (UTC) Greg wrote: Hello Greg, >Simply reversing the installation order of the two browsers seems the >most direct and easiest solution. Still with, of course, no guarantee of successfully achieving exactly what Chris is after. -- Regards _ "Valid si

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 12/02/2025 20:55, Nicolas George wrote: >> Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): >>> I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. >> >> At worst, the source code is the documentation. > > Certainly, but before delving into source code I would try the

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/02/2025 20:55, Nicolas George wrote: Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. At worst, the source code is the documentation. Certainly, but before delving into source code I would try the standard (XDG) way to configure media types and

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
ther way around. Problem solved. That said, I believe the three-browser problem is not generally solvable. :-) > Regards, >

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-12, Chris Green wrote: >> >> If you want a Linux way to solve the issue: first, read the >> documentation of xfce-terminal to see how it decides which web browser >> to run; then read the documentation of that mechanism to see how to >> configure it. &g

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (HE12025-02-12): > I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. At worst, the source code is the documentation. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
re I > > want to be. > > That might be a way, but it would be less efficient than installing > Windows or Macos instead of Linux. > > If you want a Linux way to solve the issue: first, read the > documentation of xfce-terminal to see how it decides which web browser > to r

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
> > > very much can install something for one user and not for another in a > > > browser. > > > > How? If I install epiphany using alt then it sets itself as the > > default browser in just about every location I know about and some > > that I don't. The

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread tomas
then it goes on to give a few answer links that look > promising. I'd look at update-alternatives, but... This one is system wide, and barring some systemd shenanigans, it should be the only one. Note that there are two browser entries there: www-browser and x-www-browser (from m

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
182/xfce4-terminal-change-default-browser https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=6899 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=191547 I hope one of these helps.

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/02/2025 17:23, Nicolas George wrote: If you want a Linux way to solve the issue: first, read the documentation of xfce-terminal to see how it decides which web browser to run; I would not be surprised if it is not explicitly documented. Perhaps XFCE has a configuration menu. Most GUI

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
one user and not for another in a > > browser. > > How? If I install epiphany using alt then it sets itself as the > default browser in just about every location I know about and some > that I don't. These settings apply to all users on the system. Installing a browser is v

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > songbird wrote: > > > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > > ... > > > > > > It would

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Nicolas George
a way, but it would be less efficient than installing Windows or Macos instead of Linux. If you want a Linux way to solve the issue: first, read the documentation of xfce-terminal to see how it decides which web browser to run; then read the documentation of that mechanism to see how to configure it. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Chris Green
Anssi Saari wrote: > Chris Green writes: > > > Installing epiphany just added it as a choice but left vivaldi as the > > configured browser, but still epiphany grabbed everything. > > Have you considered you may get better information if you actually > define this &q

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread Anssi Saari
Chris Green writes: > Installing epiphany just added it as a choice but left vivaldi as the > configured browser, but still epiphany grabbed everything. Have you considered you may get better information if you actually define this "everything"? For me it's the small handfu

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread tomas
hen, it seems that it is alternatives. What does update-alternatives --display x-www-browser say? Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-12 Thread debian-user
Chris Green wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > songbird wrote: > > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > It would be much easier if I could simply tell epiphany (or > > &

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-11 Thread Chris Green
wrote: > > > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > > ... > > > > > > It would be much easier if I could simply tell epiphany (or > > > > > > another browser) **not** to try and become the default for > > > > > > everything, rather

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 08:21:02PM +, Chris Green wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > songbird wrote: > > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > It would be much easier if I could simply te

Re: How to install a browser (epiphany) without affecting mailcap etc.?

2025-02-11 Thread Chris Green
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > songbird wrote: > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > ... > > > > It would be much easier if I could simply tell epiphany (or > > > > another browser) **not** to try and become the default fo

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