Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-08-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 08 aug 20, 14:38:30, Andrew Cater wrote: > > dpkg-reconfigure -plow tzdata > > [That's the dpkg-reconfigure command, -plow to force asking low priority > questions rather than taking the default answers, and tzdata being the file > that sets the timezone.] As the manpage states, dpkg-reco

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-08-08 Thread Andrew Cater
Hi Albretch, If I'm reading your question correctly: Why can't you set the locale for one country, the timezone for a second, the keyboard for a third? You can. As root or equivalent, you can reset timezone with dpkg-reconfigure -plow tzdata [That's the dpkg-reconfigure command, -plow to force

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-08-08 Thread Albretch Mueller
On the installer it says: Configure clock: if the desired time zone is not listed ... Select your time zone: https://manjaro.site/step-by-step-install-debian-9-0-netinstall-version/install-debian-9-0-configure-clock/ but why can't you set up your computer as US English and be, say, in the

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-08-01 Thread 황병희
writes: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 08:55:22AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Jo, 30 iul 20, 17:13:18, Brad Rogers wrote: >> > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:58:10 +0200 >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, >> > >> > *PLEASE* fix your sig separator. >> >> What difference does it make for a

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-07-31 at 10:58, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 08:47:50AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2020-07-31 at 08:37, Reco wrote: >> > It's a kmail thing. mutt, being a superior MUA, is not affected. >> >> Can you clarify both A: in what way this is kmail-specific, > > kmail apparen

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 08:47:50AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-07-31 at 08:37, Reco wrote: > >>> Quirks are fine, when things continue to work. Your sig > >>> separator fails completely. > >> > >> "Fails" in what way? He doesn't actually have a "signature file". > >> He doesn't have a

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 01:56:10PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > OK, I will studz and try the manz options you have explain to me. > > > Your posts are sometimes nearly... whimsical. > > Many of you have tell me such things, "you should know that ... " > "why do you even ask if it is so easz

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-07-31 at 08:37, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:45:57AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:52:57AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> Quirks are fine, when things continue to work. Your sig >>> separator fails completely. >> >> "Fails" in what way?

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:45:57AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:52:57AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:28:21 +0200 > > wrote: > > > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > > > >I skip this newline. It's a quirk. I expect a teaspoon or two of >

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-31 Thread Albretch Mueller
OK, I will studz and try the manz options you have explain to me. > Your posts are sometimes nearly... whimsical. Many of you have tell me such things, "you should know that ... " "why do you even ask if it is so easz to find the answer on the Internet?" ... Posts are not "whimsical" per se,

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:52:57AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:28:21 +0200 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >I skip this newline. It's a quirk. I expect a teaspoon or two of > > Quirks are fine, when things continue to work. Your sig separator fails > completely.

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread The Wanderer
(There is a non-negligible chance that I will be so nervous about the possible contents of replies to this mail that I will not end up ever reading them. I am occasionally subject to bouts of unreasoning terror about such things.) On 2020-07-31 at 05:28, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I know, I know.

Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:49:14AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 08:55:22 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Hello Andrei, > > >What difference does it make for a signature like his ("-- t")? > > It doesn't work. I won't discuss that further. Cheers -- t signature.asc Descr

Re: Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:28:21 +0200 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, >I skip this newline. It's a quirk. I expect a teaspoon or two of Quirks are fine, when things continue to work. Your sig separator fails completely. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 08:55:22 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hello Andrei, >What difference does it make for a signature like his ("-- t")? It doesn't work. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Give me a reason for liv

Signature [was: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...]

2020-07-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 08:55:22AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 30 iul 20, 17:13:18, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:58:10 +0200 > > wrote: > > > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > > > *PLEASE* fix your sig separator. > > What difference does it make for a signature like his (

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 30 iul 20, 17:13:18, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:58:10 +0200 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > *PLEASE* fix your sig separator. What difference does it make for a signature like his ("-- t")? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser sig

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:58:10 +0200 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, *PLEASE* fix your sig separator. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Go away, come back, go away, come back Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely) - P!nk pgp

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:50:54PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:08:19 +0300 > Anssi Saari wrote: > > Hello Anssi, > > >Since Windows 7 it's possible to tell Windows that RTC is UTC. IMO, > >setting RTC to UTC time is the right thing to do, messing around with > > Good to k

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:08:19 +0300 Anssi Saari wrote: Hello Anssi, >Since Windows 7 it's possible to tell Windows that RTC is UTC. IMO, >setting RTC to UTC time is the right thing to do, messing around with Good to know(1). O/P doesn't state which version of Windows they're using, so I'll make

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 05:08:19PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: [...] > Since Windows 7 it's possible to tell Windows that RTC is UTC. Wow. They got it right. I'm dumbfounded. >IMO, > setting RTC to UTC time is the right thing to do,

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Brad Rogers writes: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:19:12 -0400 > Albretch Mueller wrote: > > Hello Albretch, > >> How do you make Linux get the time from the BIOS at start time and >>take it from there? > > Linux *is* reading the RTC; The problem is that Windows expects that > time to be in the local

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 07:19:12AM -0400, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I used the same laptop with another hard drive with a Windows > installation which shows the time correctly. > > How do you make Linux get the time from the BIOS at start time and > take it from there? Your posts are sometimes

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:19:12 -0400 Albretch Mueller wrote: Hello Albretch, > How do you make Linux get the time from the BIOS at start time and >take it from there? Linux *is* reading the RTC; The problem is that Windows expects that time to be in the local time zone, and sets it so, rather th

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 7/30/20, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I used the same laptop with another hard drive with a Windows > installation which shows the time correctly. > > How do you make Linux get the time from the BIOS at start time and > take it from there? While you're waiting for others to chime in, this is w

Re: BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Andrew Cater
hwclock --hctosys will do it - run a batch file? Or have ntpdate run automatically as the system boots? If you mean that Debian shows a different time to Windows consistently - check that one OS isn't resetting the other's clock. You can persuade Windows _not_ to reset the clock on daylight savin

BIOS time fine, Linux/Debian's isn't! ...

2020-07-30 Thread Albretch Mueller
I used the same laptop with another hard drive with a Windows installation which shows the time correctly. How do you make Linux get the time from the BIOS at start time and take it from there? lbrtchx