Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 20 November 2013 01:37:42 Brad Alexander wrote: > Actually, nowadays, I end up having to dist-upgrade to get new > kernels, etc. Which kind of defeats the *dist* part of dist-upgade. Aptitude uses full-upgrade. As opposed to safe-upgrade. Semantically preferable. ;-) Lisi -- To

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-20, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > For a dist-upgrade you should use whatever is advised in the Release > Notes for that release, regardless of your usual preferences. That would be the apt tool when upgrading from squeeze to wheezy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-19 Thread Brad Alexander
Excellent. Thanks, Andrei, On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 19 nov 13, 17:28:27, Brad Alexander wrote: > > Sorry. Replied privately instead of to the list... > > And I'll elaborate on my short reply as promised. > > > Way back in the mists of time, around the time

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 19 nov 13, 17:28:27, Brad Alexander wrote: > Sorry. Replied privately instead of to the list... And I'll elaborate on my short reply as promised. > Way back in the mists of time, around the time of the squeeze release, I > asked here and it was recommended to use apt rather than aptitude..

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Brad Alexander wrote: > Way back in the mists of time, around the time of the squeeze release, I > asked here and it was recommended to use apt rather than aptitude... > > I'm guessing the best practice has changed...? It has changed back and forth several times. At the present time both are mos

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-19 Thread Brad Alexander
Sorry. Replied privately instead of to the list... Way back in the mists of time, around the time of the squeeze release, I asked here and it was recommended to use apt rather than aptitude... I'm guessing the best practice has changed...? On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 17 nov 13, 16:39:10, Neal Murphy wrote: > > Actually, if efficiency was important, the --purge option would accept a > regex. Or there'd be a --purgex option. Behold the power of aptitude aptitude purge ~c aptitude purge ~o ... Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-17 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday, November 17, 2013 04:20:25 PM Bob Proulx wrote: > P.S. Yes I know mixing awk and grep is silly since awk can do it all. > > dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print$2}' | grep ^lib) > > I normally would have said this and done it all with awk. > > dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l |

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Curt wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >> "-s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act > >> No action. Perform a simulation of events that would occur but do not > >> actually change the system." - http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get=20 > > > > Isn't needing something like -s too dangerous

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-17 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-17, Bob Proulx wrote: > >> "-s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act >> No action. Perform a simulation of events that would occur but do not >> actually change the system." - http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get=20 > > Isn't needing something like -s too dangerous? Wha

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I am in a similar situation after upgrading some gnome components to their packages in experimental. the "gnome" (and related) metapackages are still at their sid versions, they have versioned dependencies and I think therefore have been removed. In my case I wait until the metapackages are updated

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Mark a few of the top level ones and then run autoremove, answer 'n'o. > > Then pick another top level package and mark it. Then run autoremove > > again and answer 'n'o again. Repeat until you have marked to keep all > > of the packages that you want t

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 16:46 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Mark a few of the top level ones and then run autoremove, answer 'n'o. > Then pick another top level package and mark it. Then run autoremove > again and answer 'n'o again. Repeat until you have marked to keep all > of the packages that you w

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Brad Alexander wrote: > Hi Bob, > > (every time I see your avatar, it makes me want to go back and finish up my > pilot's license. :) ) If you do that then I have done my good deed for the day! :-) Remember that it is never too late to have a happy childhood. Bob signature.asc Description: Di

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-15 Thread Brad Alexander
Hi Bob, (every time I see your avatar, it makes me want to go back and finish up my pilot's license. :) ) Thanks for your advice. I think the package manager got confused, but I was able to apt-get install kde-full. It added about half a dozen packages, but it also brought the ones i was having i

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Brad Alexander wrote: > Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed > and are no longer required: > akonadiconsole akregator amor ark avogadro-data blinken blogilo bomber > bovo > cantor cervisia crda cvs cvsservice dnsmasq-base dragonplayer easy-rsa > gnugo > ..

Automatic installs

2013-11-15 Thread Brad Alexander
Have a question about automatic dependencies. I just updated my sid machine, as more and more of KDE 4.11 was uploaded this week. Well, when I did, I got the following during the dist-upgrade: Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: