Re: The utility of alien (Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org)

Hi Bob, Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. As I mentioned before, I'v already removed the rpm OOo files and installed the 2.2.0 OOo backport. It runs fine. I see your point of view that it's better to search for some alternatives if I can't find a deb substitute for an rpm packag

The utility of alien (Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org)

Manon Metten wrote: > Still two question remains in my mind. First: What good is Alien for? It is the best attempt yet to automatically convert an rpm file to a deb file. But just because it is the best automated process available available does not mean that the deb produced is good. As the old

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Douglas, On 6/10/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wow, you need a whole partition for /opt! What all packages have you needed for which there isn't a deb? It's only 5 Gb, but it's a little oversized now I know of backports etc. I had Adobe Acrobat, Firefox, Netscape Nav

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Daniel, On 6/10/07, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alien is very useful if all you have is an .rpm. It can't solve all possible problems, but it's generally better than using rpm directly on a Debian system: the main thing that springs to mind for me is that dpkg silently clobbe

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 03:42:22PM +, Manon Metten wrote: > On 6/9/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... I used mc (midnight commander) > >to poke into the rpm just as if (maybe it is) a tarball and installed > >everything under /usr/local. This was before /opt was in th

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 11:57:24AM +, Manon Metten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Still two question remains in my mind. First: What good is Alien for? Alien is very useful if all you have is an .rpm. It can't solve all possible problems, but it's generally better than using rpm d

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Daniel, On 6/9/07, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: aptitude will try to remove packages that it thinks you don't need any more. Usually it gets this right, but sometimes it guesses wrong. When it does, just cancel the removals and it will understand that you really want that soft

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:08:09AM +, Manon Metten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Hi, > > On Etch, after having successfully removed OOo 2.0 and installed OOo 2.2.0, > after an aptitude update/upgrade aptitude complains: > > The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: >

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi John, On 6/9/07, John Verhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also this is a good place to look for unofficial packages: http://www.apt-get.org/ Thanks, I'll add this to my bookmarks. Greetings, Manon.

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Doug, On 6/9/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... I used mc (midnight commander) to poke into the rpm just as if (maybe it is) a tarball and installed everything under /usr/local. This was before /opt was in the hier. Now that /opt is in the hier, I would suggest that yo

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Manon Metten wrote: > Hi Raquel, > > On 6/9/07, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, Acroread .deb is available through Christian Marillat at > > > http://www.debian-multimedia.org. > > Gee, thanks! I didn't know that either. > > Greetings, Manon. Also this is a good

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 11:57:24AM +, Manon Metten wrote: > Second: What to do if no debian package exists at all? Eg: suppose Adobe > Acrobat would only be available as an .rpm package (and not as a tarball > like now). What should I do in such a case? I did this once but I forget what for.

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Raquel, On 6/9/07, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, Acroread .deb is available through Christian Marillat at http://www.debian-multimedia.org. Gee, thanks! I didn't know that either. Greetings, Manon.

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 11:57:24 + "Manon Metten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Second: What to do if no debian package exists at all? Eg: suppose > Adobe Acrobat would only be available as an .rpm package (and not > as a tarball like now). What should I do in such a case? > > Greetings, Manon. Ac

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Bob, Thank you for your very detailed and convincing explanation. I'll remove the .rpm OOo stuff and install the backports from now on. Still two question remains in my mind. First: What good is Alien for? The Debian Reference says: "6.4.12 Convert or install an alien binary package Alien

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > I noticed that you are very alarmed about installing .rpms on a Debian > system. Although I am NOT planning on doing so, please explain. > Please also explain "Almost anything is better than installing .rpms > directly on a dpkg system." This really becomes the old adage, "Th

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Bob, On 6/8/07, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Manon Metten wrote: > Nevertheless I've learned now how to install an .rpm package. (As a > Debian newbie, I still have to learn a lo-o-o-o-ot) Please clarify! Please tell me that you are not going to be install .rpm packages on your De

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > Nevertheless I've learned now how to install an .rpm package. (As a > Debian newbie, I still have to learn a lo-o-o-o-ot) Please clarify! Please tell me that you are not going to be install .rpm packages on your Debian system! If that is what you meant then please let us ta

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Bob, On 6/8/07, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Then you are not aware of the Debian OOo 2.2.x packages available as a backport for Etch? http://www.backports.org/ No, I was not. I've seen this url passing by every now and then, but simply did not grasp it's importance. I've che

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Why are you using the upstream binaries instead of the Debian OOo > > 2.2.x packages? > > Another thing is that I've read in some thread that Debian binaries are > always somewhat behind and they recommended to use the binaries > from the OOo website. T

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Ron, stable (editors): OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0 On 6/8/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why are you using the upstream binaries instead of the Debian OOo 2.2.x packages? I'm running Etch and I could not

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Bob, On 6/8/07, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To prevent aptitude from removing some packages that were pulled in through dependencies, you need to manually unmark them as auto packages. This includes OpenOffice and Vim for desktop installs: # aptitude unmarkauto openoff

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > Hi, > > On Etch, after having successfully removed OOo 2.0 and installed OOo 2.2.0, > after an aptitude update/upgrade aptitude complains: > > The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: > openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-draw > openoffice.

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

On 06/07/07 19:08, Manon Metten wrote: Hi, On Etch, after having successfully removed OOo 2.0 and installed OOo 2.2.0, after an aptitude update/upgrade aptitude complains: The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-draw openof

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: > openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-draw > openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-writer > > So I went into aptitude, searched for openoffice and manually set these > packages to

Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi, On Etch, after having successfully removed OOo 2.0 and installed OOo 2.2.0, after an aptitude update/upgrade aptitude complains: The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-math ope