Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-03-01 Thread Arbol One
25 11:58 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Arbol One wrote: Hello to all. I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the aid of an all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am looking for is something that is more suited for a

Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-03-01 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 10:42 -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Arbol One wrote: > > > Hello to all. > > > > > > I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the > > > aid of an > >

Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-03-01 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Arbol One wrote: > > Hello to all. > > > > I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the aid of > an > > all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am looking > for > > is so

Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-03-01 Thread Greg
On 2025-02-28, Arbol One wrote: > an all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am What is a web builder appplication and what does it do?

Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-03-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 2/28/25 11:58 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Arbol One wrote: Hello to all. I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the aid of an all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am looking for is something that is

Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-03-01 Thread jeremy ardley
On 1/3/25 13:58, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Arbol One wrote: Hello to all. I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the aid of an all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am looking for is something that is more

Re: no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-02-28 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:16:18AM -0500, Arbol One wrote: > Hello to all. > > I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the aid of an > all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am looking for > is something that is more suited for a

no-code web builder application for Linux

2025-02-28 Thread Arbol One
Hello to all. I find myself looking for a way to increase productivity with the aid of an all purpose no-code web builder application for Linux. What I am looking for is something that is more suited for a small to medium business. In my research I found “https://zapier.com/blog/best-no-code

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in an existing window when, e.g. `xdg-open` needs it? Max Nikulin [2024-11-05 23:51:21] wrote: > Is your problem that new window is opened instead of new tab in response to > "xdg-open

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/11/2024 23:26, Stefan Monnier wrote: Max Nikulin [2024-11-05 23:04:16] wrote: On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in an existing window when, e.g. `xdg-open` needs it?

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
Max Nikulin [2024-11-05 23:04:16] wrote: > On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> But I'd like to be able to send URLs to NetSurf and can't figure out how >> to do it. Am I missing something? Say you'd like to install it as your >> default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: But I'd like to be able to send URLs to NetSurf and can't figure out how to do it. Am I missing something? Say you'd like to install it as your default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in an existing window when, e.g. `xdg-open` needs it

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
of different and related MIME types to a default browser. Check ~/.config/mimeapps.list to build a list. You specify the application in terms of a .desktop file; I see netsurf-gtk provides one. Some other apps use the much older mailcap system (mutt I think is one); See /etc/mailcap, update-mime(8

Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
Someone mentioned NetSurf recently here and I'm trying it out. It's an interesting "halfway" point between TUI browsers like Lynx/EWW, and monsters like Firefox. But I'd like to be able to send URLs to NetSurf and can't figure out how to do it. Am I missing something? Say you'd like to install i

Missing application menu in TB 115.3.1 (32-bit)

2023-10-11 Thread skoric
Hi, After recent upgrade of Thunderbird in Buster, I noticed that there is no applications menu on the right side anymore. I found that menu useful to close several mails if opened in the same time. Now they need to be closed one by one. Is there a way to have that menu where it was on the right s

Re: Single-page application [was: debian.org - broken Download link.]

2023-10-09 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 09:56:43PM +0700, Dima Estudiante wrote: > > Tastes can be so different :) > > Looks like our tastes quite the same. > - Plain HTML with Caching is a robust but now days rare used. > - SPA widely used, but with high resource consumption. Glad I'm not alone :) Cheers -- t

Re: Single-page application [was: debian.org - broken Download link.]

2023-10-09 Thread tomas
framework seems intent in reinventing every wheel, in slightly different ways. Web "programmers" using those frameworks use them in, again, slightly different ways. The upshot: - slightly different UI "languages" for every application (e.g. copy-paste works sometimes, sometim

Re: Single-page application [was: debian.org - broken Download link.]

2023-10-09 Thread Dima Estudiante
> Tastes can be so different :) Looks like our tastes quite the same. - Plain HTML with Caching is a robust but now days rare used. - SPA widely used, but with high resource consumption.

Re: Single-page application [was: debian.org - broken Download link.]

2023-10-09 Thread Mike Castle
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 6:11 AM wrote: > Gah, no. As a user I hate those with all my guts. Page "state" is > distributed in some intransparent way across client and server and > there is no way to refer to "something" via an URL. Many modern SPAs track state via URL, so they can be referenced. A

Single-page application [was: debian.org - broken Download link.]

2023-10-09 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 07:07:09PM +0700, Dmitry wrote: [...] > P.S. It is so uncommon when robust technologies with low resource consumption > are used, with SinglePageApplications no need to press F5, full data set > downloaded per each request. Gah, no. As a user I hate those with all my guts

Re: The Application Konsole weired behaviour

2023-07-22 Thread Hans
issue is caused by some settings from the user. Best Hans > On 2023-07-21 07:41, Hans wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > I have an issue with the application "konsole" of KDE. The problem looks weired: > Hello! > > Could you give us the output of > > prin

Re: The Application Konsole weired behaviour

2023-07-21 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2023-07-21 07:41, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have an issue with the application "konsole" of KDE. The problem looks > weired: > Hello! Could you give us the output of printf '%q\n' "$0" "$PS1" and konsole --version Best, Anton

Re: The Application Konsole weired behaviour

2023-07-21 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 7/21/23, Hans wrote: > I have an issue with the application "konsole" of KDE. The problem looks > weired: > > When opening konsole. i get the usual window with the prompt (black > background, white > letters). > > But it looks like there are invisible tabs set

The Application Konsole weired behaviour

2023-07-21 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I have an issue with the application "konsole" of KDE. The problem looks weired: When opening konsole. i get the usual window with the prompt (black background, white letters). But it looks like there are invisible tabs set, as after the prompt there is a big space,

Creation of Debian packages of Kernel and RTAI(real time application interface)

2023-06-28 Thread Manish Damodare
Hello Debian Community Support Team, I was already installed and compiled Kernel with rtai patches of 4.9.146-rtai_5.2 Can you suggest me proper steps to follow debian packages load in my kernel please let me know. Thank you, Manish D. @india

Gnome: The Videos application quits when clicking on Activities

2023-04-25 Thread Richmond
I've noticed several times, when I am listening to an mp3 using the application 'Videos' that if I click on Activities to put the system into the view showing each task as a miniture window, that the Videos application abruptly quits. How can I find an error message for that? I

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-14 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 09/03/2023 à 12:11, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2023-03-09 08:33:08 +0100, Yvan Masson wrote: I might be the same issue indeed. A temporary workaround I have just found is to run KDE on Wayland. But I suppose it is not possible with FVWM. In any case, I sometimes need to run remote X appli

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-09 04:19:22 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > FYI, my bug reports for Firefox 110, with some details on the > behavior I get: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820542 > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1032428 Now it appears that this bug is actually a F

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 03:34:05PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > AFAIK, "apt full-upgrade" is for stable to the next stable, > >> > not for testing and unstable (one typically resolves conflicts > >> > interactively). > >> > >> Interesting. I don't use `apt` but "full-upgrade" is what I've

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-09 15:34:05 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > AFAIK, "apt full-upgrade" is for stable to the next stable, > >> > not for testing and unstable (one typically resolves conflicts > >> > interactively). > >> > >> Interesting. I don't use `apt` but "full-upgrade" is what I've been > >> us

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > AFAIK, "apt full-upgrade" is for stable to the next stable, >> > not for testing and unstable (one typically resolves conflicts >> > interactively). >> >> Interesting. I don't use `apt` but "full-upgrade" is what I've been >> using with testing for the last 20 years, first with `apt-get` the

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 10:40:14AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > AFAIK, "apt full-upgrade" is for stable to the next stable, > > not for testing and unstable (one typically resolves conflicts > > interactively). > > Interesting. I don't use `apt` but "full-upgrade" is what I've been > using wi

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:57:12 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: Hello Yvan, >Yes, I did that, but thanks for the suggestion. NP. Shame it didn't help. > >As I do not always use X11, I am thinking that maybe my issue has begun >on a previous update… Always a possibility. Another possibility is that, so

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 09/03/2023 à 12:40, Brad Rogers a écrit : On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 18:02:42 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: Hello Yvan, Thanks for your insights, You have a lot of Plasma related updates there. Have you; Logged out and back in? or Rebooted? Yes, I did that, but thanks for the suggestion. As I do

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> AFAIK, "apt full-upgrade" is for stable to the next stable, > not for testing and unstable (one typically resolves conflicts > interactively). Interesting. I don't use `apt` but "full-upgrade" is what I've been using with testing for the last 20 years, first with `apt-get` then with `aptitude`.

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 18:02:42 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: Hello Yvan, >Thanks for your insights, You have a lot of Plasma related updates there. Have you; Logged out and back in? or Rebooted? I found I had a few issues after the upgrade from 5.26 to 5.27. A reboot solved some of them (update coi

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-09 04:32:05 -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:06 AM Timothy Butterworth < > timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Try running apt fully upgrade > > > `sudo apt full-upgrade` sorry about that my tablet auto-corrected. AFAIK, "apt full-upgrade" is for

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-09 08:33:08 +0100, Yvan Masson wrote: > I might be the same issue indeed. A temporary workaround I have just found > is to run KDE on Wayland. But I suppose it is not possible with FVWM. In any case, I sometimes need to run remote X applications transparently, so Wayland is not an optio

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-03-09 at 04:32 -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:06 AM Timothy Butterworth < > timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Try running apt fully upgrade > > > `sudo apt full-upgrade` sorry about that my tablet auto-corrected. And it broke threading. -

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:06 AM Timothy Butterworth < timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Try running apt fully upgrade > `sudo apt full-upgrade` sorry about that my tablet auto-corrected. > > > On March 9, 2023, at 2:33 AM, Yvan Masson > wrote: > > Le 09/03/2023 à 04:19, Vincent Lefevre a

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Timothy Butterworth
Try running apt fully upgrade On March 9, 2023, at 2:33 AM, Yvan Masson wrote: Le 09/03/2023 à 04:19, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > On 2023-03-08 18:02:42 +0100, Yvan Masson wrote: >> Using testing with KDE, I have an issue since last update: for many QT >> applications and some GTK applications,

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-08 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 09/03/2023 à 04:19, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2023-03-08 18:02:42 +0100, Yvan Masson wrote: Using testing with KDE, I have an issue since last update: for many QT applications and some GTK applications, menus (File, Edit…) or even drop-down lists are difficult to trigger (Moste often I nee

Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-08 18:02:42 +0100, Yvan Masson wrote: > Using testing with KDE, I have an issue since last update: for many QT > applications and some GTK applications, menus (File, Edit…) or even > drop-down lists are difficult to trigger (Moste often I need to click and > then press Alt). I would like

Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-08 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi Debian users, Using testing with KDE, I have an issue since last update: for many QT applications and some GTK applications, menus (File, Edit…) or even drop-down lists are difficult to trigger (Moste often I need to click and then press Alt). I would like to ensure this bug has already bee

Re: Firefox / dbus standard file browser application

2021-12-24 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 17:24:47 +0100, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >I'm Debian stable, Xfce desktop, and have recently gone from Chromium >to firefox-esr. > >Now I discover that in Firefox, pressing "open containing folder" in >the "downloaded files" list, opens Thunar, but I want it to open Caja >which

Gnome default application reset after apt-get upgrade

2021-12-13 Thread Will
Greetings, This has been an annoyance/issue for a while - at least for me - and I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this? The problem: after an apt-get update/upgrade, the Default Applications for "Web" in Gnome will somehow switch to Thunderbird from Firefox through no direct action by me, wh

Re: Firefox / dbus standard file browser application

2021-12-12 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 09:58:14 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: >On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 17:24:47 +0100 >Andreas Ronnquist wrote: > >> I'm Debian stable, Xfce desktop, and have recently gone from Chromium >> to firefox-esr. >> >> Now I discover that in Firefox, pressing "open containing folder" in >> the

Re: Firefox / dbus standard file browser application

2021-12-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 17:24:47 +0100 Andreas Ronnquist wrote: > I'm Debian stable, Xfce desktop, and have recently gone from Chromium > to firefox-esr. > > Now I discover that in Firefox, pressing "open containing folder" in > the "downloaded files" list, opens Thunar, but I want it to open Caja >

Firefox / dbus standard file browser application

2021-12-12 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
I'm Debian stable, Xfce desktop, and have recently gone from Chromium to firefox-esr. Now I discover that in Firefox, pressing "open containing folder" in the "downloaded files" list, opens Thunar, but I want it to open Caja which I use as default file browser. I have already set it where I ha

Re: Old 32 bits application

2021-05-15 Thread Nicolas FRANCOIS
Le Sat, 15 May 2021 11:07:06 +0200, Nicolas FRANCOIS a écrit : > Hi. > > I have an old application, MuPAD 4.0.6, that I was able to launch on > my previous Debian installations, mais with the last installation > (Debian 10.9), I can't seem to be able to do this anymore. I

Re: Old 32 bits application

2021-05-15 Thread deloptes
Nicolas FRANCOIS wrote: > So I'm stuck. The 32 bits architecture is set (for Steam), so this > could'nt be the problem? And it used to work on Debian 10... > > If someone has an idea, I'm all ears :-) AFAIK Debian 11 does not offer Qt4 which obviously is used by the app. Perhaps consider using

Old 32 bits application

2021-05-15 Thread Nicolas FRANCOIS
Hi. I have an old application, MuPAD 4.0.6, that I was able to launch on my previous Debian installations, mais with the last installation (Debian 10.9), I can't seem to be able to do this anymore. In folder /opt/MuPAD-406, there is a linux folder with bin/mupad binary, an

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-25 Thread Ángel
On 2021-04-23 at 17:26 +0100, Morgan Read wrote: > Is there any method to allow v4 and v5 to be both installed together? Both packages have the same name, so the package manager treats them as the same. Rename the package name of the old version (e.g. to master- pdf-editor-4) and you should be fin

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Morgan Read
On 23/04/2021 6:20 pm, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I suggest you look inside those .deb files: they seem to both name the > package they install `master-pdf-editor` but dpkg does not allow > installing different versions of a given package at the same time. > So you'll need to edit those `.deb` to chan

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> You probably want to look inside the control archives rather than the > data archives: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_%28file_format%29 > > If both control archive files are using a package name of > "master-pdf-editor", you can try Stefan's suggestion of renaming one > and seeing if they'

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:48:13 +0100 Morgan Read wrote: > On 23/04/2021 6:20 pm, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I suggest you look inside those .deb files: they seem to both name the > > package they install `master-pdf-editor` but dpkg does not allow > > installing different versions of a given package

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:07:02 +0100 Morgan Read wrote: > On 23/04/2021 5:40 pm, Celejar wrote: > > I'll defer to those with a better understanding of the debian packaging > > system internals, and it may depend on the details of the package, but > > I'm pretty sure that there's no general way to d

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> $ sudo apt install ./master-pdf-editor-4.3.89_qt5.x86_64.deb > ./master-pdf-editor-5.7.08-qt5_included.x86_64.deb > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Note, selecting 'master-pdf-editor' instead of > './master-pdf-editor-4.3.89_qt5.x86_6

Re: installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:22:48 +0100 Morgan Read wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Some little time ago I made a jump from another distro into Debian. > > When I made that jump I took with me a few proprietary applications that > I make a lot of use of. One in particular is causing me a bit of a > heada

installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Morgan Read
Hello Folks, Some little time ago I made a jump from another distro into Debian. When I made that jump I took with me a few proprietary applications that I make a lot of use of. One in particular is causing me a bit of a headache - Master PDF Editor by Code Industry: https://code-industry.net/fr

installing two versions of a user application

2021-04-23 Thread Morgan Read
Hello Folks, Some little time ago I made a jump from another distro into Debian. When I made that jump I took with me a few proprietary applications that I make a lot of use of. One in particular is causing me a bit of a headache - Master PDF Editor by Code Industry: https://code-industry.net/fr

Re: favorites disappear from application menu

2020-09-27 Thread Glenn Holmer
I recently upgraded to Debian Testing (fresh install, following the instructions on the wiki), and I'm still seeing this issue. Anybody else? On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 9:19 AM Glenn Holmer wrote: > I continue to have this problem, and have submitted a bug report. If > anyone else is experiencing t

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Jun 2020 at 21:28:11 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 16 juin 2020 16:30 de deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: > > > It might be easier for people to follow the substance of this thread > > if you posted in such a way as to include one simple self-descriptive > > test in each post, and not includ

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-17 Thread Richard Hector
On 18/06/20 8:08 am, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:02:11AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: >> > See for more details. > >> I understand the phenomenon. I don't understand why modern software (eg >> the list software) still does it. >

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:02:11AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > See for more details. > I understand the phenomenon. I don't understand why modern software (eg > the list software) still does it. Well, imagine you're a mailing list. A dozen peopl

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-17 Thread Richard Hector
On 15/06/20 11:44 pm, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 10:13:11AM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Sat 13 Jun 2020 at 16:05:17 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: >> > However, this extra ">" should have been deleted upon viewing the email, >> > no? >> >> How would the viewer's email cli

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 02:06:08PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Hi, > > 13 juin 2020 à 21:14 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > > > You're looking at the wrong header. It's X-Spam-Status and > > X-Amavis-Spam-Status you should worry about. Authetication-Results is > > set by your MTA r

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-16 Thread Reco
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 09:28:11PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Hi, > > 16 juin 2020 14:50 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > > > And *now* it gets interesting. Because what's came to the list was text: > > > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding:

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-16 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 16 juin 2020 14:50 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > And *now* it gets interesting. Because what's came to the list was text: > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Can we imagine that the ML simply 64-decodes the email and rese

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-16 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Jun 2020 at 13:10:38 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 13 juin 2020 à 21:05 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:01:59PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > >> 13 juin 2020 à 17:12 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > >> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 06:10:15PM +0300, Reco wrote: >

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 01:10:38PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > Your e-mail passed DKIM test on my MTA with flying colors. > > > > Try that base64-encoded html thing next. > > > It was already base64 encoded, see below: > > --79Bu5A16qPEYcVIZL@tutanota > Content-Type:

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-16 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 13 juin 2020 à 21:05 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > Hi. > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:01:59PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > >> 13 juin 2020 à 17:12 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: >> >> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 06:10:15PM +0300, Reco wrote: >> > >> >> Let's see. >> >> >> >> >From what I saw t

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-15 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 13 juin 2020 à 21:14 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > You're looking at the wrong header. It's X-Spam-Status and > X-Amavis-Spam-Status you should worry about. Authetication-Results is > set by your MTA receiving your own mail from the list. > > But yes, they are both OK for this and your previ

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 10:13:11AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 13 Jun 2020 at 16:05:17 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > However, this extra ">" should have been deleted upon viewing the email, no? > > How would the viewer's email client know whether the > in > >From had been added by som

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-14 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jun 2020 at 16:05:17 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 13 juin 2020 à 14:21 de a...@strugglers.net: > > > The mbox mail archive format is a single file containing all > > messages concatenated together. Separate messages are recognised by > > a line that starts: > > > > >From > y...@examp

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-13 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/12/20 3:36 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: Mine appears under "Sound & Video" I'm using LXDE Debian Buster. Thanks a lot. That's where I just found mine.

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
Andy Smith wrote: >On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:21:12PM +, Andy Smith wrote: >> The mbox mail archive format is a single file containing all >> messages concatenated together. Separate messages are recognised by >> a line that starts: >> >> >From y...@example.com ... > >Amusingly I didn't think

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Reco
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:05:24PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 13 juin 2020 à 21:01 de l0f...@tuta.io: > > > Ok let's see for me as well: > > > > >From my point of view > > > > >From: l0f4r0 > > > > l0f4r0 > > > Everything's ok: > > Authentication-Results: w3.tutanota.de (dis=neutral; info=dma

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread l0f4r0
13 juin 2020 à 21:01 de l0f...@tuta.io: > Ok let's see for me as well: > > >From my point of view > > >From: l0f4r0 > > l0f4r0 > Everything's ok: Authentication-Results: w3.tutanota.de (dis=neutral; info=dmarc domain policy); dmarc=pass (dis=neutral p=quarantine; aspf=r; adkim=s; pSrc=dns) head

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:01:59PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 13 juin 2020 à 17:12 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 06:10:15PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > >> Let's see. > >> > >> >From what I saw this should fail DKIM test. > >> > >> And, for the good measur

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread l0f4r0
13 juin 2020 à 17:12 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 06:10:15PM +0300, Reco wrote: > >> Let's see. >> >> >From what I saw this should fail DKIM test. >> >> And, for the good measure: >> >> >From: this is not a valid RFC-822 header >> > > Ok, clearly I don't have any problem

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:21:12PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 02:08:14PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > 13 juin 2020 à 09:52 de a...@strugglers.net: > > > Looking at the email concerned, it had a line starting with "From" > > > quoted with a ">". > >

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Reco
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 06:10:15PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 04:32:02PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > I've another example:  > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/06/msg00016.html > > One more time, I started a new line with "From" which got escaped with

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 04:32:02PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > I've another example:  > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/06/msg00016.html > One more time, I started a new line with "From" which got escaped with a > leading ">". > Result: dkim=fail reason="body hash does no

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread l0f4r0
I've another example: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/06/msg00016.html One more time, I started a new line with "From" which got escaped with a leading ">". Result: dkim=fail reason="body hash does not match". Maybe it's the root cause after all... Does someone else have DKIM issues as w

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:28:45AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 13 June 2020 09:19:39 Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:12:06AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > No > present > > > > I think you are confused. None of us wrote any such line so I have > > no idea where

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 13 juin 2020 à 14:21 de a...@strugglers.net: > The mbox mail archive format is a single file containing all > messages concatenated together. Separate messages are recognised by > a line that starts: > > >From > y...@example.com> ... > > As you can imagine if a message body contained such te

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 June 2020 09:19:39 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Gene, > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:12:06AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Here is a copy/paste of the from line as it arrives here > > From: l0f...@tuta.io > > No > present > > I think you are confused. None of us wrote any such line so I

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, 2020-06-13 at 07:56 +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 07:52:55AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Looking at the email concerned, it had a line starting with "From" > > quoted with a ">". > > > > Mailing lists often do things like that, breaking DKIM. > > I will add that I re

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 09:12:06AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Here is a copy/paste of the from line as it arrives here > From: l0f...@tuta.io > No > present I think you are confused. None of us wrote any such line so I have no idea where you are seeing it, unless you are looking at th

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 June 2020 08:24:49 Andy Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:21:12PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > The mbox mail archive format is a single file containing all > > messages concatenated together. Separate messages are recognised by > > > > a line that starts: > > >From y...@exam

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:21:12PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > The mbox mail archive format is a single file containing all > messages concatenated together. Separate messages are recognised by > a line that starts: > > >From y...@example.com ... Amusingly I didn't think to point out that by sendi

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 02:08:14PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 13 juin 2020 à 09:52 de a...@strugglers.net: > > Looking at the email concerned, it had a line starting with "From" > > quoted with a ">". > > > Indeed! I hope it's not a mistake of mine (usually I proofread my emails > before

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread l0f4r0
xi9/MLIwoxp cNeZzZT14A==Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 19:37:52 +0200 (CEST)From: l0f...@tuta.io To: Debian User Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: why !oh why Debian and application listMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-pr

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 07:52:55AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Looking at the email concerned, it had a line starting with "From" > quoted with a ">". > > Mailing lists often do things like that, breaking DKIM. I will add that I recall that Debian postmasters have been asked before about making ch

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:30:44PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 12 juin 2020 à 22:16 de mst...@debian.org: > > More information from the OP, it looks like the message sent to the list > > was base64 encoded html. So I'm guessing that the list software > > autoconverted that to plain text--

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iun 20, 22:45:13, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 12 juin 2020 à 22:32 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > > > Of course, > > refraining from sending html e-mails here would be easier solution ;) > > > I'd like nothing better but it seems this is not possible currently on > Tutanota web app. You co

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:53:40PM +0300, Reco wrote: No, the body is not interesting at all here. What I'm interested in is the result of DKIM check, and that's might be written in e-mail headers. Or not. dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)"

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:45:13PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Hi Reco, > > 12 juin 2020 à 22:32 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > > > Removing Content-Type (and maybe Content-Transfer-Encoding) from OP's > > DKIM policy should do the trick, although it can has certain undesirable > > side-effect

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-12 Thread l0f4r0
Hi Reco, 12 juin 2020 à 22:32 de recovery...@enotuniq.net: > Removing Content-Type (and maybe Content-Transfer-Encoding) from OP's > DKIM policy should do the trick, although it can has certain undesirable > side-effects if MTA in question is used for other purposes. > Thanks, I will submit this

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