On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 07:33:20AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Ah.. that world is called DOS.
>
> It's usually spelled "DoS", tho.
:-D
Thank you! You just made three unicorns alive. Do you hear
them niighing?
Cheers
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> Ah.. that world is called DOS.
It's usually spelled "DoS", tho.
Stefan
On 11/7/23 15:54, Karen Lewellen wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Dan Ritter wrote:
Karen Lewellen wrote:
Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
physically capable of using Linux, might not be age appropriate, I am
wondering if the focus is on the business definition of
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:42:42 +0100
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
Nonsense. They certainly can exist. (I am not aware of any extant as
I write this.) And Otter
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
Of course they are real. It's virgins (the only people who can see
them) that don't exist.
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j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-07):
> (note how that one stops short of saying "character special file"?
$ file prog/ffmpeg/libavfilter/buffersrc.h
prog/ffmpeg/libavfilter/buffersrc.h: C source, ASCII text
Do you think this is not a file?
Regards,
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On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:42:42 +0100
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
>
> Nonsense. They certainly can exist. (I am not aware of any extant as
> I write this.) And Otter Zell has the patent on the proce
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:42:42 +0100
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
Nonsense. They certainly can exist. (I am not aware of any extant as
I write this.) And Otter Zell has the patent on the process for creating
them.
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Dan Ritter wrote:
> No, we're just riffing about the lack of a fantastical magical
> world in which everything works consistently.
Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Ah.. that world is called DOS.
Well, a resident monitor is a lot easier to make consistent than an
operating system.
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John Hasler
j...@sug
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Dan Ritter wrote:
Karen Lewellen wrote:
Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
physically capable of using Linux, might not be age appropriate, I am
wondering if the focus is on the business definition of the term?
No, we're just riffing about t
Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
> physically capable of using Linux, might not be age appropriate, I am
> wondering if the focus is on the business definition of the term?
No, we're just riffing about the lack of a fantastical magical
wor
On 11/7/23 10:52, John Hasler wrote:
I wrote:
On System III directories were files.
Nicolas George writes:
On Linux, directories are files.
Try to edit one.
That is a permissions based limit toay, and I have done that thousands
of times on os9.
On System III the same system calls oper
ahem,
(lifts late hand from back of room)
When I read the subject line, I admit to being somewhat confused.
So..searched for Unicorn, in case a new meaning existed that would explain
it.
Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
physically capable of using Linux, might n
On 11/7/23 09:29, John Hasler wrote:
Paul Duncan writes:
Yes, but we (on Linux and I *think* on good old System V and BSD 4.3)
have mkfile and mkdir - so surely that means that everything (stored
on a bit of rotating rust) is *not* a file :-)
On System III directories were files.
And always
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 08:40:43PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-07):
> > "/dev/zero is not a file"
>
> It is lying.
tomas@trotzki:~$ file /dev/zero
/dev/zero: character special (1/5)
(note how that one stops short of saying "character special file"?
IT'S A CONSPIRACY
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-07):
> "/dev/zero is not a file"
It is lying.
Regarde,
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Nicolas George
David Wright (12023-11-07):
> in white on a red background. I'm not sure what that's meant to demonstrate.
It proves nothing, either for a directory or for a device.
Regards,
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Nicolas George
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
> > I wrote:
> > > On System III directories were files.
> >
> > Nicolas George writes:
> > > On Linux, directories are files.
> >
> > Try to edit one.
>
> vim does that, sure.
"/dev/zero is not a file"
Same for
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 12:58:20PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 07 Nov 2023 at 17:03:14 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote:
> > John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> > > Try to edit one.
> >
> > Try to edit /dev/zero.
>
> $ nano /dev/zero
>
> [ "/dev/zero" is a device file ]
>
> in white on a red
On Tue 07 Nov 2023 at 17:03:14 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote:
> John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> > Try to edit one.
>
> Try to edit /dev/zero.
$ nano /dev/zero
[ "/dev/zero" is a device file ]
in white on a red background. I'm not sure what that's meant to demonstrate.
Cheers,
David.
John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > On System III directories were files.
>
> Nicolas George writes:
> > On Linux, directories are files.
>
> Try to edit one.
vim does that, sure.
-dsr-
On 11/7/23 11:03, Nicolas George wrote:
John Hasler (12023-11-07):
Try to edit one.
Try to edit /dev/zero.
I once edited /dev/null ;}
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It's not easy to be me
John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> Try to edit one.
Try to edit /dev/zero.
--
Nicolas George
I wrote:
> On System III directories were files.
Nicolas George writes:
> On Linux, directories are files.
Try to edit one.
On System III the same system calls operated on files and directories.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> On System III directories were files.
On Linux, directories are files.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
Paul Duncan writes:
> Yes, but we (on Linux and I *think* on good old System V and BSD 4.3)
> have mkfile and mkdir - so surely that means that everything (stored
> on a bit of rotating rust) is *not* a file :-)
On System III directories were files.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI U
Okay, I'm gonna throw a bit more fuel onto this fire :-)
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 15:58, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> If you ask folks like Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, they will tell you
> all the unicorns are dead on Linux because everything is _not_ a file.
> The only safe harbor
Jeffrey Walton (12023-11-03):
> If you ask folks like Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, they will tell you
> all the unicorns are dead on Linux because everything is _not_ a file.
They might tell you that, but that is wrong nonetheless: they fumbled
the “everything is a file” from the star
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 11:57:59AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 1:56 PM wrote:
[...]
> > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies.
>
> If you ask folks like Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, they will tell you
> all th
;/destination-folder-one/" and
> > "/destination-folder-two/" against a "/source-folder/" to show if there is
> > anything that was left out?
>
> I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies.
If you ask folks like Brian Ke
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