Re: Aliens ...

2004-11-04 Thread Joey Hess
Emmanuel Merliot wrote: > Thanks a lot for your response. Where is your site ? Inside debian.org ? > Since this diff isn't difficult to create, i assume that you already have > the Sun JDK 150 (not beta) one ? > If not, i will be happy to submit it to you. You'll find the set of patches in the ali

Re: Aliens ...

2004-11-04 Thread Emmanuel Merliot
Joey Hess wrote: > Emmanuel Merliot wrote: >> Where can we find / store / submit .diff.gz file to cleanly use rpm stuff >> that we don't have (yet) on Debian sites ??? > > I maintain a small collection of such diffs in alien and will consider > adding others that are submitted to me. > Thanks a

Re: Aliens ...

2004-11-04 Thread Joey Hess
Emmanuel Merliot wrote: > Where can we find / store / submit .diff.gz file to cleanly use rpm stuff > that we don't have (yet) on Debian sites ??? I maintain a small collection of such diffs in alien and will consider adding others that are submitted to me. -- see shy jo signature.asc Descript

Re: Aliens ...

2004-11-03 Thread Emmanuel Merliot
Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: >> >>>Sorry for advance if this sounds like "deja vu" ... >>> >>>That is, i am a java developer and i wanted to install "debian-friendly" >>>the new jdk150. >> >> >> Isn't 'java-package' package the way to go? >> >> > Correct ! > > W

Re: Aliens ...

2004-11-03 Thread Jim Hall
Emmanuel Merliot wrote: Sorry for advance if this sounds like "deja vu" ... That is, i am a java developer and i wanted to install "debian-friendly" the new jdk150. So, as i can't find a jdk1.5.0.diff.gz like file to do the job with alien and the file.rpm i pick from Sun's site, i wrote it from the

Re: Aliens ...

2004-11-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Sorry for advance if this sounds like "deja vu" ... That is, i am a java developer and i wanted to install "debian-friendly" the new jdk150. Isn't 'java-package' package the way to go? Correct ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: Aliens ...

2004-11-03 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> Sorry for advance if this sounds like "deja vu" ... > > That is, i am a java developer and i wanted to install "debian-friendly" > the new jdk150. Isn't 'java-package' package the way to go? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Aliens ...

2004-11-02 Thread Emmanuel Merliot
Sorry for advance if this sounds like "deja vu" ... That is, i am a java developer and i wanted to install "debian-friendly" the new jdk150. So, as i can't find a jdk1.5.0.diff.gz like file to do the job with alien and the file.rpm i pick from Sun's site, i wrote it from the excellent j2sdk1.4.2 o

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-02 Thread R Ransbottom
Hush, Karl, hush. Please! We are in hiding. If you keep making noise you will be the one we use for a suicide-diversion "mission" when they get close enough. Quietly now: Are you prepared to make that sacrifice? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > Happy un-halloween. The truth is out there -- apt-get into it, local > shadow repositories potentially excepted. You know, I was just saying on #debian-devel within the past couple of days how I missed Karl Hegbloom's psychotical

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believewe're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Adam Heath
On 31 May 2003, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > [snip] HAHAHAHAHAHA. I needed that. Thanks for the laugh. Made my day. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sat, 31 May 2003, William Lee Irwin III wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > [snip paranoid ravings] > Holy s**t you really are nuts. If this is serious, I second your opinion. Unfortunately, being totally, completely, and absolutely unhinged must be o

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-05-31 Thread William Lee Irwin III
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > Think about it. You might be next! They will try to make you believe > that what is said in this message cannot be reality. You may think this > is a joke eMail, but it is not. It resembles reality in some regard -- > you must

Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believewe're really aliens dept)

2003-05-31 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Happy un-halloween. The truth is out there -- apt-get into it, local shadow repositories potentially excepted. There _are_ organized groups of individuals who are actively attempting to dismantle or disrupt LUG's, and to discourage Linux advocates. They may attempt to discourage LUG's from forma

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-08 Thread Remy Indebetouw
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:38:54PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote: > > > > Can you please explain what do WV and bwy stands for ? I know this is > > way off-topic, but it's funny anyway and don't want to miss a thing :) > > WV = West Virginia, home of (am

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:38:54PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote: > On Thursday 07 March 2002 02:04, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:39, John Hasler wrote: > > > You have neatly explained the miniscule size of the interstellar > > > research budget. > > > > Come on, John. You can't

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 17:38, Daniel Toffetti wrote: > On Thursday 07 March 2002 02:04, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:39, John Hasler wrote: > > > You have neatly explained the miniscule size of the interstellar > > > research budget. > > > > Come on, John. You can't blame it _all

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:38:54PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote: > On Thursday 07 March 2002 02:04, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:39, John Hasler wrote: > > > You have neatly explained the miniscule size of the interstellar > > > research budget. > > > > Come on, John. You can't

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Daniel Toffetti
On Thursday 07 March 2002 02:04, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:39, John Hasler wrote: > > You have neatly explained the miniscule size of the interstellar > > research budget. > > Come on, John. You can't blame it _all_ on the defence budget. > Don't forget all those social progra

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 12:58, Gary Hennigan wrote: > "Gary Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 15:26:29 +1030, Tom Cook wrote: [snip] > > Now whether or not an antenna 10's-100's of light years way can detect > such signals I'll have to leave that to someone with actual prac

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Gary Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 15:26:29 +1030, Tom Cook wrote: > >Is that right? I thought that an ideal dipole would radiate only in a > >plane. Obviously we don't have ideal dipoles, but that's what I thought > >the theory said. I am more than happy to take cor

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavens (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread CraigW
Arrgh! I caint take it no moor! IF this threads, going to go on forever, pleeze get a spell chekker. Maybe you can bye wun at sevan-elevan.

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > So we're not _totally_ barbaric, just short-sighted? Well, obviously _I'm_ not barbaric. It's just all those people who disagree with me who are. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 07:51, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > Come on, John. You can't blame it _all_ on the defence budget. > > I don't blame any of it on the defense budget. That's a symptom, not the > disease. > > > Don't forget all those social programs, and WV needs a new Inter

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavens (was Re: setty@home)

2002-03-07 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > > Looks like the aliens ate your message. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavens (was Re: setty@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Joe

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:26:29PM +1030, Tom Cook wrote: > Spare CPU cycles: > * I dunno, play quake or something. I've known some pretty hard-core FPS junkies, but I don't think I've seen anyone who could play Quake 24/7... -- When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > Come on, John. You can't blame it _all_ on the defence budget. I don't blame any of it on the defense budget. That's a symptom, not the disease. > Don't forget all those social programs, and WV needs a new Interstate hwy > every 2 years... More symptoms. -- John Hasler [

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-07 Thread Gary Turner
On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 15:26:29 +1030, Tom Cook wrote: >Wow, people do read my posts. I should be more careful about what I >write. > >Gary Turner wrote: >[snip] >> While it is true that the EMF, or voltage is inversely proportional to >> the distance, the power is reduced by the square of the dista

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:39, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > Seems to me that all that warring and anarchy on a completely barbaric > > planey would exauhst all the time/imagination/resources. Would they want > > to spend resources on inter-stellar research, when they could be spendin

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Tom Cook
Wow, people do read my posts. I should be more careful about what I write. Gary Turner wrote: [snip] > While it is true that the EMF, or voltage is inversely proportional to > the distance, the power is reduced by the square of the distance. > (P=e^2/r, P=i^2*r, or P=e*i) Thus a signal with a po

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > Seems to me that all that warring and anarchy on a completely barbaric > planey would exauhst all the time/imagination/resources. Would they want > to spend resources on inter-stellar research, when they could be spending > it trying to destroy the enemy? You have neatly exp

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
; > > Chris > > ps I'm not looking for a flame war, just pointing out that the > > signals that we are sending out there are not worth replying > > to. > > Well, if the aliens managed to perservere despite a significantly > lower lower quality of life than ours,

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Matt Garman
that the > signals that we are sending out there are not worth replying > to. Well, if the aliens managed to perservere despite a significantly lower lower quality of life than ours, then they might certainly be interested in our media. It seems possible that an alien civilization could be co

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread csj
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:13:56 + Alan James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:06:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Not to US, but just out in _EVERY_ direction, since that alien civ > > doesn't know in what direction the receiving civ is. > > apt-get install alien > >

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 07:30, John Hasler wrote: > Tom Cook writes: > > Actually electromagnetic radiation falls off inversely with distance,... > > Field intensity is inversely proportional to distance. Power density is > inversly proportional to the square of distance (and power is, of course, >

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread John Hasler
Tom Cook writes: > Actually electromagnetic radiation falls off inversely with distance,... Field intensity is inversely proportional to distance. Power density is inversly proportional to the square of distance (and power is, of course, what we can actually detect). > ...since no-one has yet de

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 02:24, Chris Jenks wrote: > Forgetting all of the rest of your email, if you were an alien, > would you want to contact this planet, just based off your first > paragraph? Would I want to have anything to do with aliens who thought our television programs worth

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 01:08, Gary Turner wrote: > On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:46:17 +1030, Tom Cook wrote: > > >Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > >This would be true were it an electric field. Actually electromagnetic > >radiation falls off inversely with distance, not with the cube of > >distance, since no

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 02:24, Chris Jenks wrote: > At 11:06 PM 3/5/02, Ron Johnson wrote: > >On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 17:19, Gary Hennigan wrote: > >Yes, yes, all those TV, radio stations, satelite uplink stations > >(the vast majority all of which are in the Northern Hemisphere) > >are radiating outwa

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Alan James
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:06:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Not to US, but just out in _EVERY_ direction, since that alien civ > doesn't know in what direction the receiving civ is. apt-get install alien Sorry I had to ;-)

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 03:51:55 EST, Chris Jenks writes: >Actually it would make me search harder. I wouldn't be the first in line to >call them. But I guess an alien sitcom would be better then an alien reality >show. Your friendly J. Random Alien very probably wouldn't be able to get any meaning

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Chris Jenks
At 03:41 AM 3/6/02, Alex Malinovich wrote: On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 02:24, Chris Jenks wrote: > At 11:06 PM 3/5/02, Ron Johnson wrote: > >On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 17:19, Gary Hennigan wrote: > >Yes, yes, all those TV, radio stations, satelite uplink stations > >(the vast majority all of which are in th

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 02:24, Chris Jenks wrote: > At 11:06 PM 3/5/02, Ron Johnson wrote: > >On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 17:19, Gary Hennigan wrote: > >Yes, yes, all those TV, radio stations, satelite uplink stations > >(the vast majority all of which are in the Northern Hemisphere) > >are radiating outwa

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Chris Jenks
At 11:06 PM 3/5/02, Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 17:19, Gary Hennigan wrote: Yes, yes, all those TV, radio stations, satelite uplink stations (the vast majority all of which are in the Northern Hemisphere) are radiating outwards. Forgetting all of the rest of your email, if you were

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 06 Mar 2002, Tom Cook wrote: > [snip] > I can think of a number of better ways of spending the money/time/spare > CPU cycles. > [snip] For example? AC -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux GNU/Debian (Windows-free zone) For electronic books on the Assassins and on homeopathy, skeptical e

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Gary Turner
On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:46:17 +1030, Tom Cook wrote: >Ron Johnson wrote: > >This would be true were it an electric field. Actually electromagnetic >radiation falls off inversely with distance, not with the cube of >distance, since no-one has yet devised an antenna which radiates very >well in all

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-06 Thread Tom Cook
Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > Yes, yes, all those TV, radio stations, satelite uplink stations > (the vast majority all of which are in the Northern Hemisphere) > are radiating outwards. > > However, since you know full well the, well, astronomical, > distances involved, and given that radiation str

Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-05 Thread Ron Johnson
ix. So, the question is what is the appropriate > > > directory to unpack and run this little bippy? How does the graphical > > > mode do? > > > > Have you looked at http://www.distributed.net? Instead of scanning > > the sky for aliens broadcasting into the

OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)

2002-03-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
npack and run this little bippy? How does the graphical > > mode do? > > Have you looked at http://www.distributed.net? Instead of scanning > the sky for aliens broadcasting into the heavens, it tries to brute- > crack an RC5-64 cypher. > > P.S. - If we expect _others_ t