Re: You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).

On 18/08/2021 21:16, Harald Dunkel wrote: ...sid becomes the next release in 2 years Sid is always sid. Testing (now Bookworm) will become stable in ~2 years. -- John

Re: You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).

On 2021-08-18 14:16 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > On 8/17/21 21:55, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> >>> >>> How can I make sure I don't have to change passwords on 400+ hosts? >> Do not run sid on 400+ hosts. Do not run testing either, especially >> in >>

Re: You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).

On 8/17/21 21:55, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: How can I make sure I don't have to change passwords on 400+ hosts? Do not run sid on 400+ hosts. Do not run testing either, especially in the first months after a release. Of course not. But sid become

Re: You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).

On 2021-08-17 21:55 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > >> After the most recent update of a host running sid there was a >> password change dialog: >> >> You are required to change your password immediately (administr

Re: You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).

On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > After the most recent update of a host running sid there was a > password change dialog: > > You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced). > You are required to change your password immediately

You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced).

After the most recent update of a host running sid there was a password change dialog: You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced). You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced). That would be me, but I cannot remember having set

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

o, so > their sysadmins giving remaja user group full administrator privileges. Is > it dangerous? Knives are dangerous when used improperly, but we still have them at home. Instead of locking them away we teach children to use them safely. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.or

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:38:10AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > In this hypothetical scenario, the sudoers rule is applied to ALL systems, > including production ones, and sysadmins doesn't have proper backups. On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 08:45:13AM -, Curt wrote: > I'd just get a better hypothet

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 2019-06-25, Aidan Gauland wrote: >> >> In this hypothetical scenario, the sudoers rule is applied to ALL >> systems, including production ones, and sysadmins doesn't have proper >> backups. > OK, not having a (good) backup system is definitely bad.  You should > always have that even if your se

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 25/06/19 3:38 PM, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > On 24/06/19 06.27, Aidan Gauland wrote: > >> I can't really offer an opinion on whether it is dangerous without a >> more detailed hypothetical scenario, but I would say that is >> overbroad, and this rule should be narrowed down to only allow >> running

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 2019-06-25 04:38, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: On 24/06/19 06.27, Aidan Gauland wrote: I can't really offer an opinion on whether it is dangerous without a more detailed hypothetical scenario, but I would say that is overbroad, and this rule should be narrowed down to only allow running certain co

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 24/06/19 06.27, Aidan Gauland wrote: I can't really offer an opinion on whether it is dangerous without a more detailed hypothetical scenario, but I would say that is overbroad, and this rule should be narrowed down to only allow running certain commands via sudo as required for this group

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Hello, On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:34:36PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 23/06/19 12:07 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > andy@debtest1:~$ su - bob > > Password: > > bob@debtest1:~$ whoami > > bob > > bob@debtest1:~$ sudo -i > > [sudo] password for bob: > > Sorry, user bob is not allowed to execute '

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 23/06/19 12:07 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 04:44:40PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> Some one mentioned mounting drives, all that and what they need can be >> configured. > > Also note that anyone who can use "mount" as root can trivially become > root. If counte

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:07:12AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 04:44:40PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > Some one mentioned mounting drives, all that and what they need can be > > configured. > > Also note that anyone who can use "mount" as root can trivially be

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Hello, On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 04:44:40PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Some one mentioned mounting drives, all that and what they need can be > configured. Also note that anyone who can use "mount" as root can trivially become root. If countenancing allowing users to run "mount" as root I would

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

intended as an educational environment to allow the teens to ruin things, and learn from experience.) In fact, many television stations have most programs written for teens (age 13 and older), so sysadmins there configure sudoers which allows teens to behave like sysadmins themselves (by giving them full

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 2019-06-22, deloptes wrote: > Brad Rogers wrote: > >>>Is it a TV program or a computer program? >> >> On TV, it's a programme. >> > > thank you In British English.

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Brad Rogers wrote: >>Is it a TV program or a computer program? > > On TV, it's a programme. > thank you

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 17:21:14 +0200 deloptes wrote: Hello deloptes, >Is it a TV program or a computer program? On TV, it's a programme. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Well well well, you just can't tell My Mic

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I still don't understand the context -- are these teens somehow working at > the TV station deciding which shows to be transmitted, or are these teens > at home, viewing TV, and possibly getting the option to view TV programs > being broadcast with the watermark that sa

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Saturday 22 June 2019 04:02:11 Curt wrote: > On 2019-06-22, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> You seem to be assuming that Mr. Banjaya is in the USA. While that > >> is not impossible, given the Javanese name and non-USA usage of > >> English, I suspect that it is not correct. > > > > Thats entirely po

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Friday 21 June 2019 22:21:57 deloptes wrote: > Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > > In Indonesia, the case resemble hypothetical case in this thread, > > where sysadmins in TV station doesn't care about least privilege > > security principle and they gave teens full root privileges, for > > most programs a

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 6/21/19 6:35 PM, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: Carl Fink wrote: You seem to be assuming that Mr. Banjaya is in the USA. While that is not impossible, given the Javanese name and non-USA usage of English, I suspect that it is not correct. In Indonesia, the case resemble hypothetical case in this t

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 04:11:56 AM Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > I don't know. Since 2013 most programs (GUI applications) there (TV > stations systems) display watermark which stated that those are for teens > (optionally with parental guidance). So children have to wait until 13 in > order to fully

Teenagers (was: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?)

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 04:02:11 AM Curt wrote: > Remaja is Javanese (derived from Indonesian, > I think) for teenager, who apparently are a PITA world-wide, ;-) > which is > somehow comforting. Well, maybe (I can see that viewpoint, it is somehow disappointing ;-)

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Curt wrote: >> [...] teenager, who apparently are a PITA world-wide > > Especially for the carbon dioxide producers. :)) Please don't start this! It is a big business and what happens is like advertisement for it. I wouldn't say this if someone would mention the big cargo

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 10:40:12AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Curt wrote: > > [...] teenager, who apparently are a PITA world-wide > > Especially for the carbon dioxide producers. :)) ;-)) -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 04:21:57AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > > > In Indonesia, the case resemble hypothetical case in this thread, where > > sysadmins in TV station doesn't care about least privilege security > > principle and they gave teens full root privileges, for most pr

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Hi, Curt wrote: > [...] teenager, who apparently are a PITA world-wide Especially for the carbon dioxide producers. :)) > which is somehow comforting. Yeah. Our past enthusiasm did not vanish. It's just with somebody else now. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Re: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

What a BS! This comes from Windoz for sure. I don't know. Since 2013 most programs (GUI applications) there (TV stations systems) display watermark which stated that those are for teens (optionally with parental guidance). So children have to wait until 13 in order to fully make use of those s

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 2019-06-22, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> You seem to be assuming that Mr. Banjaya is in the USA. While that is >> not impossible, given the Javanese name and non-USA usage of English, >> I suspect that it is not correct. > > Thats entirely possible Carl, so you could well be correct, but after the

Re: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > In Indonesia, the case resemble hypothetical case in this thread, where > sysadmins in TV station doesn't care about least privilege security > principle and they gave teens full root privileges, for most programs are > for teens. What a BS! This comes from Windoz for sure.

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Friday 21 June 2019 15:41:00 Carl Fink wrote: > On 6/20/19 12:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 20 June 2019 08:30:57 Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > >> In hypothetical scenario as I described in the starting of this > >> thread, I imagine that TV programs run by TV stations can be > >> thought

Re: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Carl Fink wrote: You seem to be assuming that Mr. Banjaya is in the USA. While that is not impossible, given the Javanese name and non-USA usage of English, I suspect that it is not correct. In Indonesia, the case resemble hypothetical case in this thread, where sysadmins in TV station does

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On 6/20/19 12:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 20 June 2019 08:30:57 Bagas Sanjaya wrote: In hypothetical scenario as I described in the starting of this thread, I imagine that TV programs run by TV stations can be thought as computer programs in TV station's production systems. I woul

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

On Thursday 20 June 2019 08:30:57 Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Carl (ca...@panix.com) said: > > OK, which meaning of "program" are you using here? In American (and > > UK) English, it can mean either "set of instructions that run on a > > computer" or "television entertainment item." You seem to be usin

Re: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

Carl (ca...@panix.com) said: OK, which meaning of "program" are you using here? In American (and UK) English, it can mean either "set of instructions that run on a computer" or "television entertainment item." You seem to be using it both ways in this message or confusing the two. In this c

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

ns for general audiences, that is TV > stations that is watched by all audiences, not just teens. As long as > someone is aged 13 or older, he/she is teenager. The remaja user group > is for anyone that his/her age is 13 or older. My concern here is > whether giving teens full admi

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

tions have most programs written for teens (age 13 and older), so sysadmins there configure sudoers which allows teens to behave like sysadmins themselves (by giving them full administrator privileges) on their production systems. Also, parental monitoring and guidance can reduce likehood of teen

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

is TV > stations that is watched by all audiences, not just teens. As long as > someone is aged 13 or older, he/she is teenager. The remaja user group Normally the teenage category has both a lower and an upper limit, the latter being 19. > is for anyone that his/her age is 13 or olde

Re: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

er, he/she is teenager. The remaja user group is for anyone that his/her age is 13 or older. My concern here is whether giving teens full administrator privileges on those production systems can be dangerous/vulnerable or not, in fact that psychologically they are very unstable.

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

igure sudoers which allows > teens to behave like sysadmins themselves (by giving them full > administrator privileges) on their production systems. Also, parental > monitoring and guidance can reduce likehood of teens breaking such > systems. Maybe because teens are largest marketshare

Re: Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

e teens to ruin things, and learn from experience.) In fact, many television stations have most programs written for teens (age 13 and older), so sysadmins there configure sudoers which allows teens to behave like sysadmins themselves (by giving them full administrator privileges) on their productio

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

on such systems can only be accessed by users which are member of remaja (teens) group via sudo, so their sysadmins giving remaja user group full administrator privileges. Is it dangerous? Regards, Bagas That is almost as bad as having no security restrictions at all. The correct thing to do

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

L=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > The rationale for above is most programs on such systems can only be > accessed by users which are member of remaja (teens) group via sudo, > so their sysadmins giving remaja user group full administrator > privileges. Is it dangerous? Yes, but danger's

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

gt; The rationale for above is most programs on such systems can only be > accessed by users which are member of remaja (teens) group via sudo, so > their sysadmins giving remaja user group full administrator privileges. > Is it dangerous? > We can't answer to this, the pros and cons are to be weighed. -- John Doe

Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

users which are member of remaja (teens) group via sudo, so their sysadmins giving remaja user group full administrator privileges. Is it dangerous? Regards, Bagas

Re: caja as administrator

pen any folder from Caja as administrator (right click > > on > > folder in Caja, select open as administrator) I get the message: > > > > "Please start Chromium as a normal user. If you need to run as root > > for > > development, re-run with the - no-sandbox flag.&q

Re: caja as administrator

Op 06-08-17 om 01:34 schreef Dominic Knight: I guess this is something I have done at this end but, although it works fine as a normal user (right click and open new instance), when trying to open any folder from Caja as administrator (right click on folder in Caja, select open as administrator

Re: caja as administrator

On 8/5/17, Dominic Knight wrote: > I guess this is something I have done at this end but, although it > works fine as a normal user (right click and open new instance), when > trying to open any folder from Caja as administrator (right click on > folder in Caja, select open as admi

caja as administrator

I guess this is something I have done at this end but, although it works fine as a normal user (right click and open new instance), when trying to open any folder from Caja as administrator (right click on folder in Caja, select open as administrator) I get the message: "Please start Chromi

Re: BIOS Administrator Pasword Workaround

player doesn't. > > I've forgotten what the original BIOS administrator password was, however, > so don't access to change the boot sequence. If I remove the CMOS battery, > that should do it and I shouldn't lose anything other than the time? > ind regards, O.K., Tha

Re: BIOS Administrator Pasword Workaround

On 27.2.2014 11:36, Weaver wrote: I've forgotten what the original BIOS administrator password was, however, so don't access to change the boot sequence. http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-HP-ProBook-EliteBook/Resetting-BIOS-password/td-p/695744 There someone suggests give it

Re: BIOS Administrator Pasword Workaround

On 27/02/14 20:46, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On 27/02/2014 09:36, Weaver wrote: >> I've forgotten what the original BIOS administrator password was, however, >> so don't access to change the boot sequence. If I remove the CMOS battery, >> that should do it and I sho

Re: BIOS Administrator Pasword Workaround

On 27/02/2014 09:36, Weaver wrote: > I've forgotten what the original BIOS administrator password was, however, > so don't access to change the boot sequence. If I remove the CMOS battery, > that should do it and I shouldn't lose anything other than the time? Genera

BIOS Administrator Pasword Workaround

Hello all, I've got this old HP Compaq nx6120, that I want to change the boot sequence on as I've just installed tails on a USB drive and bought a new external DVD burner to provide what the internal standard player doesn't. I've forgotten what the original BIOS admini

[OT] Re: Its Regarding for linux network administrator

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Re: Will somethings break if an administrator removes a file marked as conffile?

Regid Ichira wrote: > Will the debian management system interpret a missing conffile as > though it was removed by the system administrator? Yes. A missing conffile has been determined to a local configuration and will be preserved upon upgrades. You can use the dpkg option --force-co

Will somethings break if an administrator removes a file marked as conffile?

Will the debian management system interpret a missing conffile as though it was removed by the system administrator? That is, will somethings break if the administrator removes a conffile, rather then nullify its contents or commenting in each line of the file? The file is marked by dpkg as a

Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome

On Jan 3, 2:10 am, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then your system is rather unusual, to say the least. The following > programs are 1755 on my system: > > /bin/su > /bin/mount > /bin/umount > /bin/ping > /bin/ping6 > > Not having /bin/su suid root is probably Rick's problem. > Thanks,

Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome

On Jan 3, 9:40 am, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, just not noticing rws amongst all the rwx's. Use ls --color, and they jump out at you. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/08 02:07, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-01-03 05:07 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On my system, all the non-symlinks in /bin are 755 root:root. > > Then your system is rather unusual, to say the least. The following > programs are 1755 on

Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome

On 2008-01-03 05:07 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: > On my system, all the non-symlinks in /bin are 755 root:root. Then your system is rather unusual, to say the least. The following programs are 1755 on my system: /bin/su /bin/mount /bin/umount /bin/ping /bin/ping6 Not having /bin/su suid root is

Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/08 21:28, Rick Dooling wrote: > Plot thickens. Not a sudoer problem, probably. > > Examining bash history, I mistakenly chowned /bin (instead of ~/bin) > to my username. I chowned it back to root, but I must have messed up > permissions the s

Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome

Plot thickens. Not a sudoer problem, probably. Examining bash history, I mistakenly chowned /bin (instead of ~/bin) to my username. I chowned it back to root, but I must have messed up permissions the setuid programs. I'll figure it out when I get back on that machine tomorrow. Thanks, rick -

Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/08 16:39, Rick Dooling wrote: > Here's a weird one. > > On a new installation of Etch, I edited sudoers to give root > priveleges to myself (user rick). > > Suddenly when gnome asks for my administrator password or

su and administrator password fails in gnome

Here's a weird one. On a new installation of Etch, I edited sudoers to give root priveleges to myself (user rick). Suddenly when gnome asks for my administrator password or when I try to do "su" it fails to accept my root password. If I log out to terminal, I can log in as root

Re: When login, get error: configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)

On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 05:37:44PM +0100, csanyipal wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:55:35AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:24:46PM +0100, csanyipal wrote: > > > > .. login: unknown configuration item `CLOSE_SESSIONS' > > > > -^ > > crucial informati

Re: When login, get error: configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)

On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:55:35AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:24:46PM +0100, csanyipal wrote: > > .. login: unknown configuration item `CLOSE_SESSIONS' > > -^ > crucial information, IMO. I would check /etc/login.defs, in sid its > full of comments abo

Re: When login, get error: configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)

On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:24:46PM +0100, csanyipal wrote: > Hello! > > I upgraded my Debian system from Sarge to Etch. > > After that, whenever I login, get the error messages on Vterm: > -> > configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (not

When login, get error: configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)

Hello! I upgraded my Debian system from Sarge to Etch. After that, whenever I login, get the error messages on Vterm: -> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify admin

Re: MySQL Administrator - segmentation fault

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Re: Newbie administrator

003 14:09:41 -0600 Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Newbie administrator > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:09:41 -0600 > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: &g

Re: Newbie administrator

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:09, Will Trillich wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > > * Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > > > > > Is there a good book for beginner admin's like me? > > > > apt-get install rutebook > > > > under woody i get > > #

RE: Newbie administrator

someone please shut him up. McEwan Family On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:09:41 -0600 Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Begin Message --- On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > * Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > > > Is there a good book for beginner admin's l

Re: Newbie administrator

On Saturday 01 March 2003 22:51, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Will: think recursively in order to answer both questions. For there to be a reasonable use of recursion it has to have a stopping condition. GNU and RUTE does not have a stopping condition, hence it is not reasonable to use any of them.

Re: Newbie administrator

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 09:31:56PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 14:09:41 -0600, Will Trillich wrote: > > as i recall, mr. sheer had the source online for critique and i asked him > > what "rute" was in "R ute U sers T utorial and E xposition" and he just > > sent me a

Re: Newbie administrator

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 14:09:41 -0600, Will Trillich wrote: > as i recall, mr. sheer had the source online for critique and i asked him > what "rute" was in "R ute U sers T utorial and E xposition" and he just > sent me a smiley. > > i'm guessing it's a homonym with a spelling different enough to

Re: Newbie administrator

On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:39:35PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > * Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > > > Is there a good book for beginner admin's like me? > > apt-get install rutebook under woody i get # apt-get install rutebook Reading Package Lists... Done

Re: Newbie administrator

On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:57:29AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > > > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do > > this: > > > > chmod -R 700 /home/* > > What if you don't want to make all files executable writable

Re: Newbie administrator - chmod

On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:27:39AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > little detail that, in order to get them to do anything harmful, you > > need root privileges. And once an attacker is root, the 750 > > permissions won't stop him anyhow. It only protects against people > > who can't do any harm in t

Re: Newbie administrator - chmod

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:42:43PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > and if i was admining your box... i'd "chmod 750 /sbin /usr/sbin" > > and hide/remove root passwds so that i can sleep late or wont be > > paged because something broke > > ...which, even

Re: Newbie administrator

On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 04:42:07PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > > find /home -type l -exec chmod 777 {} \; > Now, one bash question I've been meaning to ask for a long time... > > I keep seeing this... > {} \; > > ...on the end of lines in bash scripts. I don't have a good bash book, > an

Re: Newbie administrator

On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:42:43PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > and if i was admining your box... i'd "chmod 750 /sbin /usr/sbin" > and hide/remove root passwds so that i can sleep late or wont be > paged because something broke ...which, even if it doesn't break things (like another poster's mention

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On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do this: > > chmod -R 700 /home/* What if you don't want to make all files executable writable and readable in everyone's directory? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 04:42:07PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > Now, one bash question I've been meaning to ask for a long time... > > I keep seeing this... > {} \; > > ...on the end of lines in bash scripts. I don't have a good bash book, > and I don't know what this means, and obviously "man

Re: Newbie administrator

On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:02:08PM -0500, Phil wrote: > >The command to do that is chmod, man chmod should get you started. in > >this case, chmod 700 is what I did. > > do I have to do this individually for each user? (all 120 of them) is > there a way to do this in the skel directory in. the f

Re: Newbie administrator

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:42:43 -0800 (PST) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and if i was admining your box... i'd "chmod 750 /sbin /usr/sbin" > and hide/remove root passwds so that i can sleep late or wont be > paged because something broke Two questions: 1) OK, I understand why "chmod 750 /

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On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:42:43 -0800 (PST) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > > > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do > > this: > > > > chmod -R 700 /home/* > > after you learn from your mistakes ... an

Re: Newbie administrator

On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:21:12PM -0500, Phil wrote: > Is there a good book for beginner adimin's like me? > You can install everyone of the following (that is on sarge) with apt: debian-reference - A metapackage to install all translations of Debian Referencedebian-reference-common - common

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* Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030227 04:33]: > Is there a good book for beginner adimin's like me? apt-get install rutebook Then have look at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/rute.html Cheers, Nick. -- Debian testing/unstable Linux onefish 2.4.20-lavienx #1 Mon Jan 6 17:03:01 JST 2003 i686 unknow

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cally, but most of the stuff is applicable to a lot of distributions. They do comment on oddities specific to one distro or another, and covers most every basic topic a new administrator needs. Look for it at Amazon or Barnes & Noble. HTH, Monte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

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hi ya On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Storey wrote: > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do this: > > chmod -R 700 /home/* after you learn from your mistakes ... and have everybody mad at you... how do you recover ??? - think you're in for a lon

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* Robert Storey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030226 16:31]: > Considering all the subdirectories in /home, it would probably be better to do this: > > chmod -R 700 /home/* Great googa mooga ... I hope I never have an account on a system you admin. IMO, you have no right to clobber all of your users' f

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 08:05:18AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:13:59 -0500 (EST) > Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Phil wrote: > > > do I have to do this individually for each user? (all 120 of them) is > > > there a way to do this in the s

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