Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:55:54AM -0700, Chip Smith wrote: > convention  as it pertains to the 127.0.0.1 iIP address is that it > is meant to be used for testing purposes on a whole. I am quite sure that plenty of production traffic goes over localhost network connections on millions of serv

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:49:58PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 1:46 PM Greg Wooledge > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:40:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster > > > > wrote

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Chip Smith
Thr n convention  as it pertains to the 127.0.0.1 iIP address is that it is meant to be used for testing purposes on a whole. Moore information may be found in the links below. https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1085 https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1918 On 5/24/24 10:07, Paul M Foster w

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:49:58PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 1:46 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:40:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster > > > wrote: > > > > 192.168.254.30 yosemite.mars.l

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 1:46 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:40:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster > > wrote: > > > 192.168.254.30 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > > 127.0.1.1 is traditionally used for the fully qualified

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 May 2024 at 13:40:38 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster > wrote: > > > > Folks: > > > > In my /etc/hosts file, there's a line: > > > > 127.0.1.1 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > > > I think Debian put it there. > > > > Later in the file, I've g

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 01:40:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster > wrote: > > 192.168.254.30 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > 127.0.1.1 is traditionally used for the fully qualified domain name > (fqdn). So I would expect to see 'yosemite.mars.lan',

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:13 AM Paul M Foster wrote: > > Folks: > > In my /etc/hosts file, there's a line: > > 127.0.1.1 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > I think Debian put it there. > > Later in the file, I've got: > > 192.168.254.30 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > So there are two entries for t

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:13PM +0100, Joe wrote: > Long ago, lo used to be just 127.0.0.1, which is what most people would > try to ping to check localhost, and what appeared in /etc/hosts. There > is some subtle reason, which I used to know but have now long forgotten, > why Debian started usi

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:23:55PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2024 17:17:45 +0200 > wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be > > > used for the global DNS stuff, so

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:13PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:40:30 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Joe
On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:40:30 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > If you o

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:40:30AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > If you

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be > > > used for the gl

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be > > > used for the gl

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Marco Moock
Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > > [...] > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be > > used for the global DNS stuff, so set a proper FQDN that belongs to > > you. > > I think

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote: [...] > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be used > for the global DNS stuff, so set a proper FQDN that belongs to you. I think this is wrong in that sweeping generality. Cheers -- t signature.asc Descri

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Marco Moock
Am 24.05.2024 um 08:05:43 Uhr schrieb Paul M Foster: > In my /etc/hosts file, there's a line: > > 127.0.1.1 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > I think Debian put it there. Should be there so the hostname is resolvable - even when not in DNS. > Later in the file, I've got: > > 192.168.254.30 yose

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M Foster wrote: > Folks: > > In my /etc/hosts file, there's a line: > > 127.0.1.1 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > I think Debian put it there. > > Later in the file, I've got: > > 192.168.254.30 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > So there are two entries for the same (my) machine. Is this

Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 08:05:43AM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > Folks: > > In my /etc/hosts file, there's a line: > > 127.0.1.1 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite > > I think Debian put it there. Correct. This is the address that will be used if you don't have a static LAN address. > Later in the fi

Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks: In my /etc/hosts file, there's a line: 127.0.1.1 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite I think Debian put it there. Later in the file, I've got: 192.168.254.30 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite So there are two entries for the same (my) machine. Is this a problem? Specifically, could it cause problem