On 6/14/23 12:01, Sascha Silbe wrote:
Hello,
gene heskett writes:
That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is
available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullseye
repository. If I understand the status page [3] correctly it's only
scheduled for the
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 12:24:21PM -0700, Fred wrote:
[...]
> Hi,
> If systemd is a problem you could try using Devuan Linux. Devuan is Debian
> without systemd.
> Best regards,
> Fred
This wasn't helpful at all: it's not systemd, but one udev rule
(which are maintained under the systemd umbrel
On 6/14/23 09:22, Sascha Silbe wrote:
Hello Gene,
gene heskett writes:
[udev update from proposed-updates]
I couldn't figure how to dl the file, so I snapshoted the diff screen
from [1], and will compare it to what I have from the patch, which it
appears I have not done to this machine, as I
Hello Gene,
gene heskett writes:
[udev update from proposed-updates]
> I couldn't figure how to dl the file, so I snapshoted the diff screen
> from [1], and will compare it to what I have from the patch, which it
> appears I have not done to this machine, as I have /dev/serial/by-path
> only
Hello,
gene heskett writes:
>> That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is
>> available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullseye
>> repository. If I understand the status page [3] correctly it's only
>> scheduled for the next point release. Given tha
Hello Michael,
Michael Biebl writes:
>> Not sure if it's fixed in Bookworm already. The upstream fix went in at
>> v253. Bookworm is at 252.6 which doesn't exist as a tag in the upstream
>> repo so I cannot check if the fix was backported.
>
> stable/point releases can be found in the systemd-st
On 6/9/23 16:01, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 09:41:23 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 06:51, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wro
On 6/10/23 15:27, Cousin Stanley wrote:
Cousin Stanley wrote
>>
>> $ source .xsessionrc
>>
On 2023-06-10 10:10, gene heskett wrote:
> A neat trick, thanks.
You're welcome.
> I've reached that age where I can't remember what,
> if anything I had for breakfast most
Cousin Stanley wrote
>>
>> $ source .xsessionrc
>>
On 2023-06-10 10:10, gene heskett wrote:
> A neat trick, thanks.
You're welcome.
> I've reached that age where I can't remember what,
> if anything I had for breakfast most mornings.
I'm on the way
Birthday
On 6/9/23 19:36, Cousin Stanley wrote:
On 2023-06-09 13:00, gene heskett wrote:
>> Did you log out and back in, or did you simply start
>> a new XFCE4 terminal within an existing session?
>>
>> The .xsessionrc file is only read
>> during X session startup, not when running
>> various appl
>> Cousin Stanley wrote
>>
I sometimes update the .xsessionrc file
for various reasons and then source it
to activate the changes without logging out
or restarting
On 2023-06-10 00:20, David Wright wrote:
> Two problems here:
>
> Other sessions are unaware of the ch
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 16:17:50 (-0700), Cousin Stanley wrote:
> On 2023-06-09 13:00, gene heskett wrote:
>
> >> Did you log out and back in, or did you simply start
> >> a new XFCE4 terminal within an existing session?
> >>
> >> The .xsessionrc file is only read
> >> during X session startup, not
On 2023-06-09 13:00, gene heskett wrote:
>> Did you log out and back in, or did you simply start
>> a new XFCE4 terminal within an existing session?
>>
>> The .xsessionrc file is only read
>> during X session startup, not when running
>> various applications like terminal emulators.
>>
>>
>>> (
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 09:41:23 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 06:51, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [.
On 6/9/23 11:40, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Start with .xsessionrc (the Debian hack) and see if that works. Put a
PATH modification in there, and also put something like
export GENETEST=hello
in a
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Start with .xsessionrc (the Debian hack) and see if that works. Put a
> > PATH modification in there, and also put something like
> >
> > export GENETEST=hello
> >
> in a $HOME/.xsessionrc h
On 6/9/23 10:23, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh,
On 6/9/23 10:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh,
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh, not by your login
> > > > s
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh, not by your login
shell. So, if you've got bash syntax in .profile (or anything it dots
in, such as .bas
On 6/9/23 06:51, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
same as /lib
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh, not by your login
> > shell. So, if you've got bash syntax in .profile (or anything it dots
> > in, such as .bashrc), then you cannot safely
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 11:51:15AM +0100, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
Change of subject:
I have a mod I make to the $PATH which I've put in .profile, but I've
failed to find a place to make it autoexec wh
wrote:
...
> Perhaps you have a ~/.bash_profile, which then would take precedence over
> your ~/.profile (people who want to have both usually source ~/.profile
> from ~/.bash_profile. Writing shell-independent code is left as an exercise
> to the reader, though). Perhaps your PATH is not exported
Greg Wooledge wrote:
...
> I must have said this a hundred times, but... it depends on HOW you login.
yes! login vs. non-login.
the rest left in because it is useful and notable.
> The only times .profile is read are when you have a login shell (from a
> pure text console login, or an ssh
On 6/9/23 07:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
I quote in full from the bash man page, section "INVOCATION" (I assume your
shell is bash):
bash it is, and I've even an older printout. I'll pursue this as I was
not aware of it. Thank you Tomas.
INVOCATION
A login shell is one whose
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 07:36:42AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 06:20:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > This is actually the classical pattern of "layered configuration", which
> > > is widespread in the UNIX world. You see t
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 06:20:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > This is actually the classical pattern of "layered configuration", which
> > is widespread in the UNIX world. You see that often with a system config
> > which can be overridden by a user co
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 11:51:15AM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > Change of subject:
> >
> > I have a mod I make to the $PATH which I've put in .profile, but I've
> > failed to find a place to make it autoexec when I login. And I'm tire
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 06:20:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
> > > same as /lib/udev/rule
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
> > > same as /lib/udev/rules.
On 6/9/23 03:46, Michael Biebl wrote:
Not sure if it's fixed in Bookworm already. The upstream fix went in at
v253. Bookworm is at 252.6 which doesn't exist as a tag in the upstream
repo so I cannot check if the fix was backported.
stable/point releases can be found in the systemd-stable reposi
On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
same as /lib/udev/rules.d, so which one actually rules?
The one in /etc, as David said. Unless it doesn't exi
Not sure if it's fixed in Bookworm already. The upstream fix went in at
v253. Bookworm is at 252.6 which doesn't exist as a tag in the upstream
repo so I cannot check if the fix was backported.
stable/point releases can be found in the systemd-stable repository. See
https://github.com/systemd/sy
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
> same as /lib/udev/rules.d, so which one actually rules?
The one in /etc, as David said. Unless it doesn't exist.
This is actually the classical patte
On 6/8/23 18:35, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 08 Jun 2023 at 11:47:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote:
On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote:
/dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time.
The arm folks have had a patch script for quite a while bu
On Thu 08 Jun 2023 at 11:47:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote:
> > >
> > > /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time.
> > > The arm folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it
> > > has not
On 6/7/23 14:44, Sascha Silbe wrote:
Hello Gene,
gene heskett writes:
Greetings all;
/dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. [...]
That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is
available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullsey
On 6/7/23 14:37, Sascha Silbe wrote:
Hello Gene,
gene heskett writes:
Greetings all;
/dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. [...]
That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is
available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullsey
On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote:
On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
/dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. The arm
folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it has not been
fixed in debian that we know of. I have 4 identical banana pi's
On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote:
On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
/dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. The arm
folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it has not been
fixed in debian that we know of. I have 4 identical banana pi's
Hello Gene,
gene heskett writes:
> Greetings all;
>
> /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. [...]
That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is
available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullseye
repository. If I understand the st
On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
/dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. The arm
folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it has not been
fixed in debian that we know of. I have 4 identical banana pi's, 3 of
which seem to work, but the pa
Greetings all;
/dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. The arm
folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it has not been
fixed in debian that we know of. I have 4 identical banana pi's, 3 of
which seem to work, but the patch has not fixed the 4th on for some unk
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