On Monday, February 09, 2015 02:13:33 PM Paul E Condon wrote:
[...]
> You could use a file in your first partition for swap instead of a
> separate partion (that is badly configured) for swap. Having swap on
> its own partition seems to have lost some of its technical advantage
> due to changes in
On 20150208_0029-0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:12:32 AM Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 01:14:56PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I have been down that graden path so many times I think I could do it
> > > in my sleep. I had that drive setup with
On Sunday 08 February 2015 21:00:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
> Ah, no. The ~30~ on the end of a message is newspaper speak for the end.
> Of this thread. :) That probably dates me. :)
No, it labels you as using jargon:
Language characteristic of a particular group. ]
Speech or language that is inc
On Sunday, February 08, 2015 02:58:52 PM Bob Proulx wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > You might want to use parted for alignment checks.
> > >
> > >...
> > >
> > > root@phobia:~# parted /dev/sda align-check opt 1
> > > 1 aligned
> > > root@phobia:~# parted /dev/sda alig
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > You might want to use parted for alignment checks.
> >...
> > root@phobia:~# parted /dev/sda align-check opt 1
> > 1 aligned
> > root@phobia:~# parted /dev/sda align-check opt 5
> > 5 aligned
> >
> > root@turmoil:~# parted /dev/sda align-check
On Sunday, February 08, 2015 02:30:32 AM Bob Proulx wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Then why is fdisk complaining?:
[...]
> It is informative to read the fdisk man page and read the BUGS
> section.
>
> man fdisk (on Wheezy 7)
>
>There are several *fdisk programs around. Each has i
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Then why is fdisk complaining?:
'fdisk' is an old tool and unfortunately it hasn't had the love and
care that is needed for it to keep up with the modern day formats. I
used it for years before the new IDE drives but I don't use it anymore
because of exactly what you are see
On Sunday 08 February 2015 06:29:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:59:11 AM Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > The alignment seems to be bad on every partition if you do it by hand,
> > > but if you just let it use the whole disk, the first parttition is
> > > go
On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:59:11 AM Bob Proulx wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > The alignment seems to be bad on every partition if you do it by hand,
> > but if you just let it use the whole disk, the first parttition is
> > good, but the swap seems out of kilter and probably slow if and when
Gene Heskett wrote:
> The alignment seems to be bad on every partition if you do it by hand, but
> if you just let it use the whole disk, the first parttition is good, but the
> swap seems out of kilter and probably slow if and when I ever get into swap.
But your swap was aligned just fine. You
On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:12:32 AM Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 01:14:56PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I have been down that graden path so many times I think I could do it
> > in my sleep. I had that drive setup with a hair over a gig for the
> > /boot, and all that,
On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 01:14:56PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> I have been down that graden path so many times I think I could do it in my
> sleep. I had that drive setup with a hair over a gig for the /boot, and all
> that, it did write a new table giving boot only 300 megs, and all the oth
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
> On Thursday, February 05, 2015 04:09:58 PM David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Darac Marjal (mailingl...@darac.org.uk):
> > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, February 03, 2015 05:01:46 AM Darac Marjal wrote:
>
On Thursday, February 05, 2015 05:21:10 PM Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:38:27 -0500
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > This is why , having been bit once, follow the procedure for new
> > > installations:
> > >
> > > - Have the /home directory on a separate physical unit
> >
> > Th
On Friday 06 February 2015 15:10:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> So I went back to the newest, wheezy based linuxcnc hybrid.iso you can get
> from linuxcnc.org and installed that.
[snip lengthy tale, ending with statement of problems he is having under
linuxcnc]
> I could use some clues?
http://lin
On Friday, February 06, 2015 07:52:33 AM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Arch Linux doesn't even have an installer. You just do your own thing.
> That might suit you better.
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/installation_guide
>
> Lisi
>
Manjaro is arch based, and someone here suggested it, saying t
Arch Linux doesn't even have an installer. You just do your own thing. That
might suit you better.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/installation_guide
Lisi
On Thursday 05 February 2015 22:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday, February 05, 2015 04:09:58 PM David Wright wrote:
> > Quoti
On Thursday, February 05, 2015 04:09:58 PM David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Darac Marjal (mailingl...@darac.org.uk):
> > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 03, 2015 05:01:46 AM Darac Marjal wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, G
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:38:27 -0500
Gene Heskett wrote:
> > This is why , having been bit once, follow the procedure for new
> > installations:
> >
> > - Have the /home directory on a separate physical unit
>
> The installer WILL NOT ALLOW that.
The installer will know nothing about it; you i
Quoting Darac Marjal (mailingl...@darac.org.uk):
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 03, 2015 05:01:46 AM Darac Marjal wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [cut]
> >
> > My point in all this is that th
Gene Heskett wrote:
> I have been down that graden path so many times I think I could do it in my
> sleep. ...
Unfortunately being asleep isn't good for doing it correctly. Because
everyone keeps showing you how to do it and you never show us that you
are following the directions.
> File it, i
Gene Heskett wrote:
> And the partitoner that will not allow one to bypass its fscked up write on
> partition tables IS DUMBER THAN A ROCK.
But we keep telling you that the debian-installer will do this. You
keep saying it does not work for you. We keep asking for details.
>Device Boot
On Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:48:19 PM Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 11:34:18 -0500
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > What do you mean here? How can you have 15 yr old data on a newly
> > > installed system?
> >
> > The failing drive can still be read. Some of this data has now bee
On Thursday 05 February 2015 18:14:56 Gene Heskett wrote:
> I have been down that graden path so many times I think I could do it in my
> sleep.
You haven't described it once.
Lisi
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On Thursday, February 05, 2015 06:08:51 AM Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 03, 2015 05:01:46 AM Darac Marjal wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> [cut]
>
> > My point in all this is
I think we should stop replying to this troll. He has taken up an enormous
amount of list time and ignores anything helpful anyone says. (cf Darac
Marjal's patient exposition.) He continues to refuse to explain himself
properly, and is now resorting to being insulting in his rants.
Lisi
On
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 11:34:18 -0500
Gene Heskett wrote:
> > What do you mean here? How can you have 15 yr old data on a newly
> > installed system?
> The failing drive can still be read. Some of this data has now been on 10+
> drives in the life of my use of linux, since 1998 TBE.
This is why , h
On Wednesday, February 04, 2015 11:32:07 AM Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > convenience. This install is about the 6th I have done, and I am back to
> > the only way that works, which it let the SOB use all the disk as it
> > sees fit. An
On Thursday 05 February 2015 11:08:51 Darac Marjal wrote:
> Now, IF you've been following that procedure AND your installer isn't
> behaving in the same manner, then hit a bug in the installer that hasn't
> been spotted in about 18 months of regular use by many people.
I think if it were a bug, we
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 03, 2015 05:01:46 AM Darac Marjal wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
[cut]
>
> My point in all this is that the installer WILL NOT ALLOW you, in any mode,
> to
> just form
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> convenience. This install is about the 6th I have done, and I am back to the
> only way that works, which it let the SOB use all the disk as it sees fit.
> And
> this is not a wheezy install as such, that install has self destruct
On Wednesday 04 February 2015 14:57:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
> My point in all this is that the installer WILL NOT ALLOW you, in any mode,
> to just format and label a partition and use it. Try to skip the
> partitioner and go on to the next step it will NOT allow. The only way you
> can get past tha
On Tuesday, February 03, 2015 05:01:46 AM Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings;
> >
> > This time I just let it do its own multiple partition thing. When the
> > install was done, every other disk partitioner we have reports that the
>
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
>
> This time I just let it do its own multiple partition thing. When the
> install was done, every other disk partitioner we have reports that the
> partition boundaries are out of sync with the 4k sectors of this drive
On 2015-02-03, Darac Marjal wrote:
>
>
> If you like, you can make the partitioner dumber. If you partition the
> drive as you prefer BEFORE running the installer, then the installer
> will not move the existing partitions. This is a perfectly cromulent
> use-case for the installer (you might, for
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
>
> This time I just let it do its own multiple partition thing. When the
> install was done, every other disk partitioner we have reports that the
> partition boundaries are out of sync with the 4k sectors of this drive
Gene Heskett wrote:
> This time I just let it do its own multiple partition thing.
Would you be so kind as to share the partition details?
parted /dev/sdb unit s print
Then we would be able to see how it turned out. I assume in the above
you were using a single disk sdb as you were before?
>
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:16:34PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
>
> This time I just let it do its own multiple partition thing. When the
> install was done, every other disk partitioner we have reports that the
> partition boundaries are out of sync with the 4k sectors of this drive
Greetings;
This time I just let it do its own multiple partition thing. When the
install was done, every other disk partitioner we have reports that the
partition boundaries are out of sync with the 4k sectors of this drive.
Both beginning and ending.
So I am, before I try to recover all the
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