Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Aaron Toponce put forth on 6/21/2010 10:09 AM: > A 32-bit system, is a system that can address at most 2^32 bits of > memory for any given process. Most 32-bit kernels these days, however, > can address much more thanks to the physical address extensions (PAE), > typically 64 GB. But that still me

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/21/2010 10:09 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 6/20/2010 10:32 AM, T o n g wrote: Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something superficial imposed by M$? I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as well? I'm not familiar with "M$", but if you're re

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/21 deloptes : > Eero Volotinen wrote: > >>> $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found >>> no found >> >> I think it is included in bigmem kernel ? >> >> try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ? > > thanks for pointing out this, because I was curious and grepped the config > files

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 02:38:27PM +, T o n g wrote: > Thanks everyone who replied, > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as > >> well? > > > > No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/us

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread deloptes
Eero Volotinen wrote: >> $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found >> no found > > I think it is included in bigmem kernel ? > > try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ? thanks for pointing out this, because I was curious and grepped the config files on my 32bit system. grep -i pae

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/21 T o n g : > Thanks everyone who replied, > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: > >>> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as >>> well? >> >> No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much >> as 64 GiB of RAM. >> >>

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 6/20/2010 10:32 AM, T o n g wrote: > Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something > superficial imposed by M$? I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 > architecture) has such 3G limit as well? I'm not familiar with "M$", but if you're referring to "MS", short for "Microsoft",

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:38:27 +, T o n g wrote: > Thanks everyone who replied, You're welcome. > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: > >>> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as >>> well? >> >> No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread T o n g
Thanks everyone who replied, On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: >> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as >> well? > > No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much > as 64 GiB of RAM. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-20 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/20 Klistvud : > Dne, 20. 06. 2010 19:28:57 je Eero Volotinen napisal(a): > >> >> With pae enabled kernel on 32bit systems, you can split memory on 4GB >> slices. >> It comes with some overhead, but still works fine. also 4GB process >> limit applies to processes. >> >> -- >> Eero >> > > Than

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-20 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 20. 06. 2010 19:28:57 je Eero Volotinen napisal(a): With pae enabled kernel on 32bit systems, you can split memory on 4GB slices. It comes with some overhead, but still works fine. also 4GB process limit applies to processes. -- Eero Thanx for correcting me. The (first) link given b

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-20 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/20 Klistvud : > Dne, 20. 06. 2010 18:32:02 je T o n g napisal(a): > >> Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one > > IIRC the answer is yes, it's a "natural" one, imposed by the address lines > being limited to 32 bits: 2^32 gives you 4G, the remaining 1G was last seen > being swallow

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-20 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:32:02 +, T o n g wrote: > Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something > superficial imposed by M$? MS allows some versions of Windows systems to bypass such limit on 32 bits machines (by means of PAE and AWE), so yes, nowadays it's fictional. > I m

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-20 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 20. 06. 2010 18:32:02 je T o n g napisal(a): Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one IIRC the answer is yes, it's a "natural" one, imposed by the address lines being limited to 32 bits: 2^32 gives you 4G, the remaining 1G was last seen being swallowed by the "Doors, Gates and

Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
articles to read: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/3_GB_barrier https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/64-bit#Limitations Tao -- http://huangtao.me/ http://www.google.com/profiles/UniIsland On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:32 AM, T o n g wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry if it is a FAQ, >

32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-20 Thread T o n g
Hi, Sorry if it is a FAQ, Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something superficial imposed by M$? I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as well? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xp