Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 oct 14, 22:49:32, John Hasler wrote: > > The "Getting Debian" page refers specifically to "64 bit PC" and "32 bit > PC" but I suppose clarification of exactly what "AMD64" means could be > added. File a bug. With a patch. These wordings were specifically chosen because many people wou

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread John Hasler
Chris Bannister writes: > A MAC is still a PC. PC is short for Personal Computer. Yes. Unfortunately, in common parlance a "peecee" is a desktop computer running Microsoft Windows. As in "Do you have a peecee?" "No. I have a Mac." The "Getting Debian" page refers specifically to "64 bit PC" a

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 04:22:21PM -0400, Doug wrote: > On 10/04/2014 11:25 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > Harry Putnam writes: > >> So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture > >> different from `pc'. > > > > "pc" doesn't mean an architecture. > > > This is probably not mu

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Doug
On 10/04/2014 11:25 AM, John Hasler wrote: > Harry Putnam writes: >> So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture >> different from `pc'. > > "pc" doesn't mean an architecture. > This is probably not much help to the person who provoked the question. "PC" normally means

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/04/2014 11:12 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: My machine has nothing to do with amd Well, AMD created the x86-64 architecture we are all using (Intel's IA-64 never became really popular), so actually it does ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 That is interesting. I

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-04, Harry Putnam wrote: > > So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture > different from `pc'. PC stands for Personal Computer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread John Hasler
Harry Putnam writes: > So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture > different from `pc'. "pc" doesn't mean an architecture. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrei POPESCU writes: >> My machine has nothing to do with amd > > Well, AMD created the x86-64 architecture we are all using (Intel's > IA-64 never became really popular), so actually it does ;) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 That is interesting. I would not have guessed at that fact

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 04 Oct 2014 at 09:47:46 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > I want to download a jessie weekly build for 64 bit PC. > > What is the appropriate architecture on the downloads? > > My machine has nothing to do with amd but that is the only thing > listed as 64 bit on the pages including jessie or

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 oct 14, 09:47:46, Harry Putnam wrote: > I want to download a jessie weekly build for 64 bit PC. > > What is the appropriate architecture on the downloads? > > My machine has nothing to do with amd Well, AMD created the x86-64 architecture we are all using (Intel's IA-64 never became

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 14:47:46 Harry Putnam wrote: > is > amd64 what I should download for a 64 bit PC? Yes. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.

32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I want to download a jessie weekly build for 64 bit PC. What is the appropriate architecture on the downloads? My machine has nothing to do with amd but that is the only thing listed as 64 bit on the pages including jessie or testing. However, at https://www.debian.org/distrib/ the starting pag

Re: clean upgrade 32 -> 64?

2014-03-29 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-03-29 18:35 +0100, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > Thanks! Finally got the new machine set up to try the crossgrading, and > everything worked just fine. There's just one issue remaining: a huge > number of i386 packages on the machine show dependencies on either apt > or dpkg, so any attempt to

Re: clean upgrade 32 -> 64?

2014-03-29 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Darac Marjal writes: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a >> 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box >> into the new one and doing any minor configuration changes that'l

Re: clean upgrade 32 -> 64?

2014-03-04 Thread Doug
On 03/04/2014 05:12 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box into the new one and doing any minor configuration c

Re: clean upgrade 32 -> 64?

2014-03-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a > 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box > into the new one and doing any minor configuration changes that'll be > neede (which will be

clean upgrade 32 -> 64?

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box into the new one and doing any minor configuration changes that'll be neede (which will be very minor). So, while I'm at it, I'm curious -- is there any clean w

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-31 Thread Bob Proulx
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > François Patte a écrit : > >apt-get install AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i386linux_fra > >... > >E: Unable to locate package AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i386linux_fra > ... > > So, you have to download the archive from the official website, and > then run "#dpkg -i AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i386

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-31 Thread berenger . morel
Le 31.10.2013 12:44, François Patte a écrit : Le 30/10/2013 23:37, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Le 30.10.2013 23:10, François Patte a écrit : Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Is there a way to build a debian package

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-31 Thread François Patte
Le 30/10/2013 23:37, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : > > > Le 30.10.2013 23:10, François Patte a écrit : >> Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : >>> On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte >>> wrote: Bonjour, Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 07:28:04PM +0100, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package > built for a 32bits platform. If the package does not have complex preinst/postinst scripts (or their RPM equivalents), the following method may

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread François Patte
Le 30/10/2013 23:21, Beco a écrit : > On 30 October 2013 19:10, François Patte > wrote: >> Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : >> >> AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i486linux_fra.rpm is for architecture i386 ; the package >> cannot be built on this system >> >> > > Hi François, > > What is the exact command you

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 30.10.2013 23:34, Beco a écrit : On 30 October 2013 19:28, wrote: I think the kind of information he want is, for example, the software's name. Or the software's role. Exactly! If it is ADOBE READER (I'm guessing), in this site http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ You get to cho

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 30.10.2013 23:10, François Patte a écrit : Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package built for a 32bits platform. I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread Beco
On 30 October 2013 19:28, wrote: > I think the kind of information he want is, for example, the software's > name. Or the software's role. Exactly! If it is ADOBE READER (I'm guessing), in this site http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ You get to choose operational system, language and

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread François Patte
Le 30/10/2013 23:23, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : > > > Le 30.10.2013 23:10, François Patte a écrit : >> Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : >>> On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte >>> wrote: Bonjour, Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 30.10.2013 23:07, François Patte a écrit : Le 30/10/2013 20:27, Bob Proulx a écrit : François Patte wrote: Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package built for a 32bits platform. I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be installed.

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 30.10.2013 23:10, François Patte a écrit : Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package built for a 32bits platform. I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread Beco
On 30 October 2013 19:10, François Patte wrote: > Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : > > AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i486linux_fra.rpm is for architecture i386 ; the package > cannot be built on this system > > Hi François, What is the exact command you issued? On a first check, I think maybe there is a pr

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread Bob Proulx
François Patte wrote: > Bob Proulx a écrit : > > François Patte wrote: > >> Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package > >> built for a 32bits platform. > >> > >> I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be > >> installed. > > > > You still haven

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread François Patte
Le 30/10/2013 23:07, Beco a écrit : > On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte > wrote: >> Bonjour, >> >> Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package >> built for a 32bits platform. >> >> I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be >> installed. >

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread François Patte
Le 30/10/2013 20:27, Bob Proulx a écrit : > François Patte wrote: >> Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package >> built for a 32bits platform. >> >> I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be >> installed. > > You still haven't answered my ques

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread Beco
On 30 October 2013 15:28, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package > built for a 32bits platform. > > I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be > installed. > > Thank you. Hi Fraçois, You just want to r

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread François Patte
Le 30/10/2013 22:46, Dmitrii Kashin a écrit : > François Patte writes: > >> Bonjour, >> >> Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package >> built for a 32bits platform. > > There's no way to *build* amd64 package from any another non-source > package. But you could *rep

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
François Patte writes: > Bonjour, > > Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package > built for a 32bits platform. There's no way to *build* amd64 package from any another non-source package. But you could *repack* .rpm package into .deb one using alien. But if it was n

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread Bob Proulx
François Patte wrote: > Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package > built for a 32bits platform. > > I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be > installed. You still haven't answered my question concerning this in the other thread. What is t

alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-30 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package built for a 32bits platform. I don't mean that I want an amd64 debian package, as 32bits can be installed. Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Universit

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 8/11/2013 4:08 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > I recently went through the exercise of putting a GbE NIC into an old 32 > bit x86 machine w/PCI only. The first card I purchased, a $10 USD > TP-Link w/RTL8169, couldn't power on. It is a 3.3v only

Re: REDUX: Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Gregory Seidman wrote: > It looks like it will be worth my while to copy partitions over to the new > disk, if only so I can increase the size of my root partition (which I > foolishly made too small). Did you use LVM? If so then you can simply expand it with some free space from elsewhere. Assu

REDUX: Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-12 Thread Gregory Seidman
Thanks to everyone for the helpful input. It looks like there is no advantage to converting to 64-bit, which is just fine with me. The new machine has 4GB of RAM, so I am not hitting address space issues. I don't do anything more CPU-intensive than spam filtering. I do occasionally do some I/O-inte

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Moral of the story? The OP may need to spend ~$30 USD for an Intel > PCI NIC to guarantee it'll work on the first go. He probably gave not > much more than this for entire used machines. Factor in that you can > get a brand new mobo/cpu/RAM combo with GbE and GPU today for

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-11 Thread David Christensen
On 08/11/13 19:44, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I ate the $10 NIC putting it on a shelf because return shipping + restocking fee is almost $10. Second time around I emailed the e1000 driver list. An Intel engineer responded and verified that the universal model of the Pro/1000 GT should work. Ordered

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/11/2013 4:08 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > David Christensen wrote: >> Gregory Seidman wrote: >>> I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's >>> showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC >>> was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-11 Thread Bob Proulx
David Christensen wrote: > Gregory Seidman wrote: > > I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's > > showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC > > was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was > > hanging). > > Ins

Re: Migrating 32-64

2013-08-11 Thread Gary Dale
On 11/08/13 10:28 AM, Doug wrote: On 08/11/2013 09:12 AM, David Baron wrote: Results like not worth the effort, though it can be done now as a crossgrade much more easily. I had tried the dbootstrap method. Almost got there but ... had to restore. The main question is whether 32 bit packages

Re: Migrating 32-64

2013-08-11 Thread Doug
On 08/11/2013 09:12 AM, David Baron wrote: > Results like not worth the effort, though it can be done now as a > crossgrade much more easily. I had tried the dbootstrap method. Almost > got there but ... had to restore. > > > > The main question is whether 32 bit packages will be gradually phas

Re: Migrating 32-64

2013-08-11 Thread David Baron
Results like not worth the effort, though it can be done now as a crossgrade much more easily. I had tried the dbootstrap method. Almost got there but ... had to restore. The main question is whether 32 bit packages will be gradually phased out. One can already find missing pieces. If this be

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-11 Thread Kailash
On Sunday 11 August 2013 12:59 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 8/10/2013 7:25 PM, Gregory Seidman wrote: I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/10/2013 7:25 PM, Gregory Seidman wrote: > I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's > showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC > was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was > hanging). As a result, I have

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. August 2013, 20:25:46 schrieb Gregory Seidman: > I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's > showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC > was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was > hanging). As

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-10 Thread David Christensen
On 08/10/13 17:25, Gregory Seidman wrote: I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was hanging). As a result, I have purchased

Re: Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-10 Thread Ivan Kovnatsky
On Aug 11, 2013 at 03:25, Gregory Seidman wrote: > I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's > showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC > was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was > hanging). As a result, I

Migrating 32 -> 64

2013-08-10 Thread Gregory Seidman
I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was hanging). As a result, I have purchased a new (old and refurbished) machine. The di

best practice: mixed 32/64 bit?

2007-04-29 Thread SteveM
On my local network /usr/local is common to every system via NFS. This method has served well until I added 64bit machines. Now /usr/local/lib and .../bin are problematic. The dilemma is common to all multi-platform shops, so I figure its been solved long ago. I bow to the wisdom real sysad

RE: 32<->64

2006-11-17 Thread David Gluss
bc.so, so 32 bit C programs work fine. David Gluss -Original Message- From: ccostin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:27 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 32<->64 32 bit x86 packages can installed on 64 bit system (amd64) ?

Re: 32<->64

2006-11-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 09:27:27AM +0200, ccostin wrote: > 32 bit x86 packages can installed on 64 bit system (amd64) ? > > use chroot. Google search for it. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

32<->64

2006-11-16 Thread ccostin
32 bit x86 packages can installed on 64 bit system (amd64) ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]