On Sunday, 8 January 2006 at 21:13:17 -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Angus Mackenzie wrote:
> > The Tasksel stage of the installer could indeed make life easier for the
> > neophyte. It could strongly advise them to install a desktop environment by
> > default and make the choice of a console an opti
Andy Streich wrote:
> Steve, rather than defending the status quo perhaps you could bend a little
> and hear the request being made in a different light.
I'm not defending the status quo, I am pointing out the inaccuracies in
what people are posting. I'm all for doing things better, believe
On Sunday 08 January 2006 10:30 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Chris Howie wrote:
> > And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
>
> On an advanced install that's exactly what you do.
>
> > Except that Debian put Gnome there when all I selected was "Desktop
> > environment
Angus Mackenzie wrote:
> The Tasksel stage of the installer could indeed make life easier for the
> neophyte. It could strongly advise them to install a desktop environment by
> default and make the choice of a console an option for those who Know What
> They Are Doing, as I do 7 or 8 machines l
Steve Lamb wrote:
Joris Huizer wrote:
I think, if the newbie just wants kde because of some fancy screenshots,
it's too hard for him/her; remember the newbie doesn't know the
character '/' upons up a search in so many linux/unix tools, so he/she
is completely lost in an unknown interface
Why wo
Joris Huizer wrote:
> I think, if the newbie just wants kde because of some fancy screenshots,
> it's too hard for him/her; remember the newbie doesn't know the
> character '/' upons up a search in so many linux/unix tools, so he/she
> is completely lost in an unknown interface
> Why would it compl
Steve Lamb wrote:
How hard can it be to give the user a choice during the install, and why is
that such a stupid idea according to you?
You are given a choice. You just refuse to see that.
the way to choose is fine by me, but, for example, manually going
through aptitude and finding
I was that newbie 18 months ago!
Debian was my first experience of Linux and I found ending up at a console
after my first installation surprising and difficult. I got through it with
lots of reading of documentation and googling, followed by a blundering and
error prone crash course in apt-get
Chris Howie wrote:
> And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
On an advanced install that's exactly what you do.
> Except that Debian put Gnome there when all I selected was "Desktop
> environment." Come on, you know that Linux users tend to value specificity.
Chris Howie wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Or the system is going to have multiple users who might want different DEs.
And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
I still haven't
uninstalled Gnome, something I've been meaning to do for a long time, but
haven
Steve Lamb wrote:
> Or the system is going to have multiple users who might want different DEs.
And if that's the case then you select both of them during the install.
>>I still haven't
>>uninstalled Gnome, something I've been meaning to do for a long time, but
>>haven't had the willpower to spen
Don Jackson wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
>> Don Jackson writes:
>>>
>>> I still don't know WHY there isn't a choice of desktops given the person
>>> installing Debian.
>>
>>
>> There is a choice of desktops. There is a choice of _everything_.
>
> OK, in the small context of the above quote, rev
Chris Howie wrote:
> Except now you're missing twice the disk space. Seriously, installing both
> DEs
> is a complete waste of space, unless the user is interested in evaluating both
> DEs to see which one he likes better.
Or the system is going to have multiple users who might want differen
Steve Lamb wrote:
> Because (IIRC) the change is quite simple before the first login from the
> GDM screen. I believe barring any user intervention to the contrary when a
> GUI environment is selected *both* are installed and the user can choose his
> poison from the GDM dropdown. Certainly d
Don Jackson wrote:
> Admittedly this is not a scientific poll, and I'm not interested in
> starting (another) flame war over KDE vs. GNOME (send those comments to
> /dev/null please), but I am interested in seeing the Debian Installer
> give the user a choice during installation.
Because (IIRC
Don Jackson wrote:
This may be considered "off topic" by some, but I just stumbled on an
interesting website with a program called "Linux Distribution Chooser".
Even though I've been with Debian for a couple years now, I thought I'd
just test out the "chooser"...
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/l
On 06 Jan 2006, Don Jackson wrote:
> This may be considered "off topic" by some, but I just stumbled on an
> interesting website with a program called "Linux Distribution Chooser".
> Even though I've been with Debian for a couple years now, I thought I'd
> just test out the "chooser"...
>
> http:/
John Hasler wrote:
> Don Jackson writes:
>
>>I still don't know WHY there isn't a choice of desktops given the person
>>installing Debian.
>
>
> There is a choice of desktops. There is a choice of _everything_.
OK, in the small context of the above quote, revise that to say:
"I still don't kno
D-kewl.
I made honest selections regarding the last few builds with Debian I have
done AND it selected Debian.
I think of the Debian installer as at least a semi-GUI interface, but I
guess it isn't!
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Don Jackson writes:
> I still don't know WHY there isn't a choice of desktops given the person
> installing Debian.
There is a choice of desktops. There is a choice of _everything_.
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Don Jackson escreveu:
This may be considered "off topic" by some, but I just stumbled on an
interesting website with a program called "Linux Distribution Chooser".
Even though I've been with Debian for a couple years now, I thought I'd
just test out the "chooser"...
http://www.zegeniestudios.ne
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