Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude. - a lmost done - test 1 of 3

2008-07-08 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Does this message come across: - with an HTML part? - base64-encoded? Thanks. Daniel [Test 1 of 3: w/ chars; UTF-8]

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-07 Thread Mark Allums
Barclay, Daniel wrote: > Mark Allums wrote: > > Barclay, Daniel wrote: > > > > > [...] could > > > > be said for your HTML-spewing MUA. > > > > > > What that heck are you talking about? My message was sent in plain > > > text, not > > > HTML. > > > > It's a dual-format message en

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:52 -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:03 -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:19 +1000, CaT wrote: > >>> > I believe that would be the point the original poster was getting >

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-07 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Mark Allums wrote: > Barclay, Daniel wrote: > > > [...] could > > > be said for your HTML-spewing MUA. > > > > What that heck are you talking about? My message was sent in plain > > text, not > > HTML. > > It's a dual-format message encoded in MIME base64 format. Where the heck are you

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-07 Thread CaT
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 04:03:04PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > Hah!, my mail client is stupid, it responds in kind, so my last message > (and this one, too) may have been sent in MIME and HTML as well. Sorry No, no they haven't. :) > about this, I will try to fix it, so that it won't happen ag

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-07 Thread Mark Allums
Mark Allums wrote: Barclay, Daniel wrote: > [...] could > > be said for your HTML-spewing MUA. > > What that heck are you talking about? My message was sent in plain > text, not > HTML. It's a dual-format message encoded in MIME base64 format. So, two things are wrong with the format

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-07 Thread Mark Allums
Barclay, Daniel wrote: > [...] could > > be said for your HTML-spewing MUA. > > What that heck are you talking about? My message was sent in plain > text, not > HTML. It's a dual-format message encoded in MIME base64 format. So, two things are wrong with the format of your message. One, it'

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-07 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:03 -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:19 +1000, CaT wrote: >>> I believe that would be the point the original poster was getting >> at. If aptitude is really doing that then it is in the wrong. >

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:29:57PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 05:35:11PM +0200, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > On 2008-07-02 16:40 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:39:26AM -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL > > > P

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 05:35:11PM +0200, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On 2008-07-02 16:40 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:39:26AM -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > >> I put the apt-get and aptitude code up s

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:03 -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:19 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > >> I believe that would be the point the original poster was getting > at. If > >> aptitude is really doing that then it is in the wrong. > > > > I understood it,

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-07-02 16:40 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:39:26AM -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: >> I put the apt-get and aptitude code up side-by-side and I can only see >> one difference in the conditions they use to determine whether to clea

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-07-02 15:39 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote: > A secondary reason is that I can't figure out what's going on, because > whenever I try taking my network down and running an update, my package > lists are still around afterwards. Hm, just a few hours ago I tried that experiment and aptitude

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:39:26AM -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I put the apt-get and aptitude code up side-by-side and I can only see > one difference in the conditions they use to determine whether to clean > the lists. I don't see why this would matter (surel

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:19 +1000, CaT wrote: > >> I believe that would be the point the original poster was getting at. If >> aptitude is really doing that then it is in the wrong. > > I understood it, but given that this is how apt has always worked and is > documented to

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:01 +0800, Magicloud wrote: >> I don't think so. Obviously, if the network is broken, it absolutely does >> not mean that there is NO packages, just aptitude can not know. > > That's by far the most round logic I've heard tonight. What on earth are

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 11:09:18AM +0300, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Not really. See #201842 and #479620. Unfortunately Daniel Burrows still > didn't comment on them. Maybe he will show up here? The main reason I haven't touched those bugs is that there are many mor

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:01:44PM +0800, Magicloud wrote: > I don't think so. Obviously, if the network is broken, it absolutely does > not mean that there is NO packages, just aptitude can not know. This gives > it no right to erease all information stored locally. > It is like, if my mobile was

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-01 Thread CaT
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:41:09AM +, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:19 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > I believe that would be the point the original poster was getting at. If > > aptitude is really doing that then it is in the wrong. > > I understood it, but given that this is how a

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:19 +1000, CaT wrote: > I believe that would be the point the original poster was getting at. If > aptitude is really doing that then it is in the wrong. I understood it, but given that this is how apt has always worked and is documented to work, why change it now? Appare

Re: 答复: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:33 +0800, Magicloud wrote: > >On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:01 +0800, Magicloud wrote: > >> I don't think so. Obviously, if the network is broken, it absolutely > >> does not mean that there is NO packages, just aptitude can not know. > > >That's by far the most round logic I'

Re: 答复 : Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-01 Thread CaT
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:06:56AM +, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:01 +0800, Magicloud wrote: > > I don't think so. Obviously, if the network is broken, it absolutely does > > not mean that there is NO packages, just aptitude can not know. > > That's by far the most round log

答复: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-01 Thread Magicloud
>On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:01 +0800, Magicloud wrote: >> I don't think so. Obviously, if the network is broken, it absolutely >> does not mean that there is NO packages, just aptitude can not know. >That's by far the most round logic I've heard tonight. If it can't reach the repository to know ab

Re: 答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:01 +0800, Magicloud wrote: > I don't think so. Obviously, if the network is broken, it absolutely does > not mean that there is NO packages, just aptitude can not know. That's by far the most round logic I've heard tonight. If it can't reach the repository to know about t

答复: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-01 Thread Magicloud
I don't think so. Obviously, if the network is broken, it absolutely does not mean that there is NO packages, just aptitude can not know. This gives it no right to erease all information stored locally. It is like, if my mobile was broken today, my wife could not contact with me, so she should thin