Re: System Crash in LibreOffice When Using Large Fonts with Black Text (Debian, Mint, Kali --Suspected i915 Issue on Debian)

2025-05-09 Thread Dan Purgert
becomes completely unresponsive and returns to the login > screen and no logs are preserved after the crash. > However, I did notice one error message during boot (shown only on > Debian-based systems, not Fedora or Arch ) *" i915 :00:02.0: [drm] > *ERROR* CPU pipe B FIFO underr

System Crash in LibreOffice When Using Large Fonts with Black Text (Debian, Mint, Kali --Suspected i915 Issue on Debian)

2025-05-09 Thread Rohin S Nair
logs are preserved after the crash. However, I did notice one error message during boot (shown only on Debian-based systems, not Fedora or Arch ) *" i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* CPU pipe B FIFO underrun"* This issue does not occur on Fedora or Arch Linux. I suspect it may be rela

kwin_wayland crash today on Trixie after upgrade (kwin package)

2025-03-14 Thread Rafał Lichwała
d_wrapper[2449]: kwin_core: Applying output config failed! Mar 14 11:58:56 desktop drkonqi-coredump-processor[2435]: "/usr/bin/kwin_wayland" 2381 "/var/lib/systemd/coredump/core.kwin_wayland.1000.586376cbe46b4adebe7e9a8451cb7d11.2381.1741949935 00.zst" Mar 14 11:58:56 desktop sy

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel Harris
Just an Update to this thread. It was actually a software bug in desktop-portal (or something like that). Once that was removed my system has been rock solid. Thanks Dan On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 3:41 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 09/12/2024 00:14, Michael Stone wrote: > > Not all drives > > suppo

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-09 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/12/2024 00:14, Michael Stone wrote: Not all drives support 4k, and many that do get no benefit from such a configuration. [...] # nvme id-ns -H /dev/nvme0n1 | grep Rel LBA Format  0 : Metadata Size: 0   bytes - Data Size: 512 bytes - Relative Performance: 0x2 Good (in use) LBA Format  1

Re: help latest t-bird is crash-o-matic

2024-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/12/24 23:07, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/12/24 22:53, gene heskett wrote: I don't know if it will last long enough to send this msg. Help plz Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. Why do you not 1. post the query to the Thunderbird email list (at https://groups.io/g/ThunderbirdEmail after subscribing to

Re: help latest t-bird is crash-o-matic

2024-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/12/24 22:53, gene heskett wrote: I don't know if it will last long enough to send this msg. Help plz Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. Why do you not 1. post the query to the Thunderbird email list (at https://groups.io/g/ThunderbirdEmail after subscribing to that list), as the appropriate list,

help latest t-bird is crash-o-matic

2024-12-09 Thread gene heskett
I don't know if it will last long enough to send this msg. Help plz Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make t

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 11:26:51PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: I switched this NVME drive to 4k mode. However I considered your message as statement that internally drives still use higher erase block size The erase block is going to be many megabytes, it has nothing to do with the logical bloc

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2024 23:31, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 10:51:20PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Michael, thank you for the long message. Actually I wonder what is "idle" that allows drive to perform self-maintenance. I expect that the device should not be in some deep power saving state

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 10:51:20PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Michael, thank you for the long message. Actually I wonder what is "idle" that allows drive to perform self-maintenance. I expect that the device should not be in some deep power saving state (I am yet to discover available tunables t

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2024 21:05, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: As a check if the defective sectors are all mapped out I did read all sectors of the partitions:   sudo dd if=/dev/sdaX of=/dev/null bs=8M status=progress I am curious if "nvme device-self-test" might be more effective. Michael, thank you for

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-06 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hi, Michael Stone wrote on 06/12/2024 14:49: On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 02:26:23PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Should have been more clear. The drive should be idle for a longer time. This is assured by not mounting any partition of the SSD. I was able to "repair" unreadable sectors on a built

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 02:26:23PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Should have been more clear. The drive should be idle for a longer time. This is assured by not mounting any partition of the SSD. I was able to "repair" unreadable sectors on a built-in SSD of an HP-Probook laptop. As far as I r

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-06 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hi, Michael Stone wrote on 05/12/2024 18:41: On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:26:18PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/24 10:33, Erwan David wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:26:18PM CET, Max Nikulin said: On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the BIOS of th

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/24 08:55, Klaus Singvogel wrote: gene heskett wrote: On 12/5/24 06:59, Klaus Singvogel wrote: It can be fixed by a Firmware upgrade, and more recently charges of Samsung SSD 980 PRO are flashed/sold with a good Firmware out-of-the-box. While I am saying that my results with earlier S

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:26:18PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the BIOS of the computer and let it running for c

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:32:30PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:26:18PM CET, Max Nikulin > said: > > On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > > 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) > > > which are performed when the drive i

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Daniel Harris
On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 12:33 PM Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:53:54AM +, Daniel Harris wrote: > >So its not actually a crash. On the 2 occasions it has happened, I have > been > >away from my computer for a while, and when I return and move the mou

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:26:18PM CET, Max Nikulin said: > On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) > > which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the > > BIOS of the computer and let it runni

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the BIOS of the computer and let it running for ca. an hour. Then restart the computer. I am curious which w

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Klaus Singvogel
gene heskett wrote: > On 12/5/24 06:59, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > > > > It can be fixed by a Firmware upgrade, and more recently charges of Samsung > > SSD 980 PRO are flashed/sold with a good Firmware out-of-the-box. > While I am saying that my results with earlier Samsung have been less than > g

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 07:32:03AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: While I am saying that my results with earlier Samsung have been less than glorious. triple layer nand's turning into half capacity for instance. There's simply no real value in looking at historic bad models as a guide to future p

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:53:54AM +, Daniel Harris wrote: So its not actually a crash.  On the 2 occasions it has happened, I have been away from my computer for a while, and when I return and move the mouse, I can see messages scrolling on a black screen (no X running).  I can move to a

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/24 06:59, Klaus Singvogel wrote: Hi Gene, gene heskett wrote: interesting comments here. I've been using SSD's since 40G was the biggest. The 256G spinning rust, now 15 years old is the only spinning rust left here. And I've drawer full of samsung 860-870 series drives that have all gon

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Hi Gene, gene heskett wrote: > interesting comments here. I've been using SSD's since 40G was the biggest. > The 256G spinning rust, now 15 years old is the only spinning rust left > here. And I've drawer full of samsung 860-870 series drives that have all > gone wonky but not RO yet.. I now have

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/24 02:23, Klaus Singvogel wrote: Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 2:47 PM Klaus Singvogel wrote: Some more details here: https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/critical-samsung-ssd-firmware-update/ That's interesting (in a morbid sort of way). Do you know if fwupdmg

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Daniel Harris
moving > HDD > >but obviously not > > Is this during boot? The messages indicate a corrupted journal, which > generally means a device error, or maybe a device which lost power while > writing. It should be possible to mount read-only without replaying the > journal for rec

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-05 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
There are two things which could be tried with the SSD 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the BIOS of the computer and let it running for ca. an hour. Then restart the computer. 2. After ma

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 2:47 PM Klaus Singvogel wrote: > > > > Some more details here: > > https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/critical-samsung-ssd-firmware-update/ > > That's interesting (in a morbid sort of way). > > Do you know if fwupdmgr will detect out-of-date

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 05:11:47PM +, Daniel Harris wrote: Thanks for all your replies. As far as I can tell there are no errors reported using fsck or smartctl or nvme  and the firmware is the correct and newest version so no problems there. The following are the messages that appear but on

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 2:47 PM Klaus Singvogel wrote: > > Daniel Harris wrote: > > Seeing the similarity especially that we are both using similar drives > > (mine i( Samsung SSD 980 PRO 1TB) makes me think it might be a hardware > > instead of a software issue. > > The referenced Samsung SSD 980

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Daniel Harris
I dont suppose its related but just recently (5th October) I have been getting thousands of these in my logs Dec 03 18:46:36 sam xdg-desktop-por[1269]: Backend call failed: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name “org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver” without an owner, and proxy was construc

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 11:34:41AM -0300, Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ wrote: > On Wednesday, 4 December 2024 09:29:17 -03 Daniel Harris wrote: > > Hello > > > > I have been using the stable branch but recently it has not been so > > stable. I have experienced some unexpected behavior Not sure if

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Daniel Harris
Thanks for all your replies. As far as I can tell there are no errors reported using fsck or smartctl or nvme and the firmware is the correct and newest version so no problems there. The following are the messages that appear but only taken from my phone and copied from the photo (lots of scrolli

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 11:07 AM Daniel Harris wrote: > > I have been using the stable branch but recently it has not been so stable. > I have experienced some unexpected behavior Not sure if its related to this > ubuntu bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1805816 ) > > Se

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Daniel Harris wrote: > Seeing the similarity especially that we are both using similar drives > (mine i( Samsung SSD 980 PRO 1TB) makes me think it might be a hardware > instead of a software issue. The referenced Samsung SSD 980 PRO has a critical firmware bug. This bug hit me too. I had to rep

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 04.12.2024 17:29, Daniel Harris wrote: Hello I have been using the stable branch but recently it has not been so stable.  I have experienced some unexpected behavior Not sure if its related to this ubuntu bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1805816 ) Seeing the sim

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Wednesday, 4 December 2024 09:29:17 -03 Daniel Harris wrote: > Hello > > I have been using the stable branch but recently it has not been so > stable. I have experienced some unexpected behavior Not sure if its > related to this ubuntu bug ( > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bu

Re: ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Jochen Spieker
Daniel Harris: > > Not sure if I can attach a picture of the error messages but some of the > errors are > ext4_find_entry > ext4_journal_check_start > ext4_setattr > mounting filesystem read-only Please do not send any attachments here. I suggest you just copy and paste the log messages from jou

ext4 FS Crash

2024-12-04 Thread Daniel Harris
Hello I have been using the stable branch but recently it has not been so stable. I have experienced some unexpected behavior Not sure if its related to this ubuntu bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1805816 ) Seeing the similarity especially that we are both using simila

Re: EFI El Torito image on ISO9660 (was: [PATCH] bli: Fix crash in get_part_uuid)

2024-07-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Tested with debian-12.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso on QEMU+OVMF and real hardware: > (proc) (memdisk) (cd0) (cd0,apple2) (cd0,apple1) (cd0,msdos2) I wonder from where (cd0,apple2) comes. A Debian amd64 netinst ISO has a single APM partition which marks the EFI El Torito boot

weekly crash

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett
This lockup was different. System totally froze, clock stopped too while scrolling a long message from the coco mailing list using tbird. Gave it a 5 second tap on the reset button but the reset was delayed by the 30 second lag before it cleared the screen and dropped into the bios to reboot. R

Re: Automatic reboot on kernel crash in Debian 12 - how?

2024-04-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/04/2024 16:17, Michael Kjörling wrote: I have a handful of Debian 12 systems that I want to configure such that they reboot automatically in case of a problem. [...] That leaves kernel-level issues. I have not tried it, but I have seen some systemd options related to configuration of h

Re: Automatic reboot on kernel crash in Debian 12 - how?

2024-04-16 Thread Franco Martelli
On 16/04/24 at 11:17, Michael Kjörling wrote: Do I need to set some more settings to ensure that the system will automatically reboot on a panic? If so, what? Hi, In the Linux kernel source are available two options to reboot on panic: config BOOTPARAM_SOFTLOCKUP_PANIC bool "Panic (Re

Re: Automatic reboot on kernel crash in Debian 12 - how?

2024-04-16 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 16 Apr 2024 11:42 +0200, from geo...@nsup.org (Nicolas George): >> Are you saying that the settings themselves are reasonable for the >> purpose, and that this particular crash just happened to be such a one >> that no software running on the system in question can reasonably

Re: Automatic reboot on kernel crash in Debian 12 - how?

2024-04-16 Thread Nicolas George
Michael Kjörling (12024-04-16): > Are you saying that the settings themselves are reasonable for the > purpose, and that this particular crash just happened to be such a one > that no software running on the system in question can reasonably help > with that scenario? No, unfortunat

Re: Automatic reboot on kernel crash in Debian 12 - how?

2024-04-16 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 16 Apr 2024 11:22 +0200, from geo...@nsup.org (Nicolas George): >> Do I need to set some more settings to ensure that the system will >> automatically reboot on a panic? If so, what? > > If the crash was bad enough to freeze the kernel before it could > trigger the reboot,

Re: Automatic reboot on kernel crash in Debian 12 - how?

2024-04-16 Thread Nicolas George
Michael Kjörling (12024-04-16): > However, this morning I woke up to one of those systems showing a > kernel crash dump and being frozen. Unfortunately the first part of > the crash dump had scrolled past so I couldn't tell what class of > problem caused the crash. > > Do

Automatic reboot on kernel crash in Debian 12 - how?

2024-04-16 Thread Michael Kjörling
: No such file or directory kernel.panic_on_io_nmi = 1 # However, this morning I woke up to one of those systems showing a kernel crash dump and being frozen. Unfortunately the first part of the crash dump had scrolled past so I couldn't tell what class of problem caused the crash. Do I ne

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 09:27:06PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 06/12/2023 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' > > > > > > Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 01:42, jeremy ardley wrote: I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily, simply for using Debian Bookworm with a variety of web browsers Magic does no

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/12/2023 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily, See /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf.d if you want to make such things pe

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread debian-user
Karl Vogel wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:04:36AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > > I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory > > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-06 Thread Karl Vogel
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:04:36AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' > > Sadly it looks like I'll n

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:42:32AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: [...] > I have discovered a magic bullet for solving running out of memory > > sudo sync; sudo sh -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' > > Sadly it looks like I'll need to do this daily, See /etc/sysctl.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf.

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-05 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/12/23 10:26, Max Nikulin wrote: On 03/12/2023 13:33, jeremy ardley wrote: On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote: What type of content is generally being viewed/used in firefox? A lot of video and otherwise news and search and GPT4 ---

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-04 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/12/23 10:49, Max Nikulin wrote: On 04/12/2023 09:39, jeremy ardley wrote: I think I've found a potential culprit using about:processes https://openai.com 110% CPU I would try it in chromium. Some sites relies on optimizations implemented in its JavaScript engine. My observation is t

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/12/2023 09:39, jeremy ardley wrote: I think I've found a potential culprit using about:processes https://openai.com 110% CPU I would try it in chromium. Some sites relies on optimizations implemented in its JavaScript engine. My observation is that Firefox may be CPU hungry due to "lo

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/12/23 10:26, Max Nikulin wrote: > I am curious if this creature may provide a summary on user-space OOM > killers. I have never tried them, but I expect that they may be more > intelligent than the kernel-space one. I have seen mentions of the > following ones: earlyoom, nohang, oomd.

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/12/2023 13:33, jeremy ardley wrote: On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote: What type of content is generally being viewed/used in firefox? A lot of video and otherwise news and search and GPT4 --- I am curious if this creature may provid

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Tom Dial
On 12/3/23 01:00, jeremy ardley wrote: On 3/12/23 15:37, Phil Wyett wrote: Not to regurgitating info here, I will add a link below that will instruct how to adjust or disable oom-killer in a sensible manner if you wish to experiment (your choice and being cautious :-)) if it is in fact the

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/12/23 06:08, Michael Kjörling wrote: The reason for the system slowing down seems to me to likely be that once the system comes under memory pressure (quite possibly due to an increase in anonymous pages), it must evict something, and only non-anonymous (that is, backed) pages can be evi

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Dec 2023 14:33 +0800, from jeremy.ard...@gmail.com (jeremy ardley): >> You have swap and it is enabled? > > No Swap. I prefer not on SSD Why not? You are definitely putting the VM allocator in a much more difficult spot than necessary by not providing any swap space. If I read what you pro

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Dec 03, 2023 at 12:58:47PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more sluggish. Then > suddenly I was back to the system login screen > > This is not the first time this has happened although previously when it > started getti

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 6:21 AM jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote: > > Your system RAM total is? > > 32G You might also want to try compressed memory, like zram. > > You have swap and it is enabled? > > No Swap. I prefer not on SSD In this configuration, you may want to

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 16:00 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 3/12/23 15:37, Phil Wyett wrote: > > Not to regurgitating info here, I will add a link below that will > > instruct how to adjust or disable oom-killer in a sensible manner if > > you wish to experiment (your choice and being cautiou

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:59 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 3/12/23 14:46, Phil Wyett wrote: > > The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see > > what benefits that brings. I have no production laptop or desktop > > (laptop with 32G being daily driver with NVME (root)

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/12/23 15:37, Phil Wyett wrote: Not to regurgitating info here, I will add a link below that will instruct how to adjust or disable oom-killer in a sensible manner if you wish to experiment (your choice and being cautious :-)) if it is in fact the oom-killer algorithm that is the main cau

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread David Christensen
. Provision 1 GB of swap. 2. Add Xfce panel widgets so that I can see what is going on. Between the two, I usually have enough time to kill problem apps before a crash. And, more memory would not hurt. David

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:59 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 3/12/23 14:46, Phil Wyett wrote: > > The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see > > what benefits that brings. I have no production laptop or desktop > > (laptop with 32G being daily driver with NVME (root)

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Tom Furie
jeremy ardley writes: > I don't think it is actually a lack of memory. What I do see is all > the web browsers are up there on CPU along with nvidia-modeset. What do you consider to be "up there"? 4.3% (your highest CPU usage in this output) hardly seems to qualify as something to be concerned a

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/12/23 14:46, Phil Wyett wrote: The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see what benefits that brings. I have no production laptop or desktop (laptop with 32G being daily driver with NVME (root) and an SSD (home) drive inside) that does not have swap. I have 8G o

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:33 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote: > > Your system RAM total is? > > 32G > > > > You have swap and it is enabled? > > No Swap. I prefer not on SSD > > > Hi, The first thing I would do before any other is to enable swap and see w

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 3/12/23 13:59, Phil Wyett wrote: Your system RAM total is? 32G You have swap and it is enabled? No Swap. I prefer not on SSD What Desktop Environment (DE) are you using - GNOME, KDE etc.? Mate with multiple panels. How many apps would you normally be running on the system at onc

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Phil Wyett
On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 12:58 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more sluggish. > Then suddenly I was back to the system login screen > > This is not the first time this has happened although previously when it > started getting sluggish I killed

Re: Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread Tom Furie
jeremy ardley writes: > I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more > sluggish. Then suddenly I was back to the system login screen > > This is not the first time this has happened although previously when > it started getting sluggish I killed all Firefox related process > > Sy

Isolated Web Co Session crash Firefox-ESR

2023-12-02 Thread jeremy ardley
I noticed my Firefox -esr browser becoming progressively more sluggish. Then suddenly I was back to the system login screen This is not the first time this has happened although previously when it started getting sluggish I killed all Firefox related process System logs show the start of the

Re: unexplained crash on Ubuntu 20.04 system

2023-11-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Nov 2023 01:36 -0500, from noloa...@gmail.com (Jeffrey Walton): > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 7:11 PM Adam Weremczuk > wrote: >> Yesterday SSH on my desktop PC running Ubuntu 20.04 became unresponsive. > > [...] You should probably ask on the ubuntu-users list. [...] I agree. While Ubuntu is

Re: unexplained crash

2023-11-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 7:11 PM Adam Weremczuk wrote: > > Yesterday SSH on my desktop PC running Ubuntu 20.04 became unresponsive. > > The machine was responding to ping and "telnet 22" was briefly > connecting before connection closed. > > The graphical login prompt was visible, but when I tried

Re: unexplained crash

2023-11-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 07:06:49 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 07:17:08PM +, Adam Weremczuk wrote: > > Yesterday SSH on my desktop PC running Ubuntu 20.04 became unresponsive. > > > > The machine was responding to ping and "telnet 22" was briefly connecting > > befor

Re: unexplained crash

2023-11-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 07:17:08PM +, Adam Weremczuk wrote: > Hello, > > Yesterday SSH on my desktop PC running Ubuntu 20.04 became unresponsive. > > The machine was responding to ping and "telnet 22" was briefly connecting > before connection closed. Guessing from the context, you tried to

unexplained crash

2023-11-17 Thread Adam Weremczuk
Hello, Yesterday SSH on my desktop PC running Ubuntu 20.04 became unresponsive. The machine was responding to ping and "telnet 22" was briefly connecting before connection closed. The graphical login prompt was visible, but when I tried to log in, it threw me to the text console. No login pr

Re: [SOLVED] Re: crash with wine and nvidia-driver

2022-10-15 Thread Hans
gt; sadly this did not work. However, I got a solution: > > > > I purged all wine packages from debian, then reinstalled wine, but only > > minimalistic, say, all necessary packages. > > > > I spared all suggested packages - and it worked now. No crash any more and

Re: [SOLVED] Re: crash with wine and nvidia-driver

2022-10-15 Thread piorunz
packages - and it worked now. No crash any more and "primusrun glxgears -info" is now running. Great! But maybe it was wine configuration files, you seem to be using only default profile ~/.wine, and maybe files there (Windows installation so to speak) got corrupted. So not rein

[SOLVED] Re: crash with wine and nvidia-driver

2022-10-15 Thread Hans
crash any more and "primusrun glxgears -info" is now running. Additionally also the games prior not working with nvidia legacy driver are working now, too. It looks for me, some additional package forced the crash, but I can nor say, which one. It is no need, to look at, because wine

Re: crash with wine and nvidia-driver

2022-10-15 Thread piorunz
On 13/10/2022 17:43, Hans wrote: As I am not believing, this is related to the game (as ALL games are crashing), I believe, it is related to a systematical error in the relationship between wine and nvidia-driver. To verify this hypothesis, run for example: primusrun wine notepad.exe primusrun

running outdated software (was: crash with wine and nvidia-driver)

2022-10-13 Thread DdB
Am 13.10.2022 um 18:43 schrieb Hans: > Hi folks, > > maybe someone got into the same problem as me and can help. Well, i cannot help. Sorry But i am very used to running outdated software, as i am living the old recipe to "never change a working system". The only thing, that i am doing is to sep

crash with wine and nvidia-driver

2022-10-13 Thread Hans
Hi folks, maybe someone got into the same problem as me and can help. I am using a laptop with a graphic chip in the intel-cpu and an extern graphic card from NVidia. The nvidia chip is an NVS4200M and running with kernel module *legacy-340xx* Yes, I know, NVidia and also Debian says, it shall

Nautilus crash

2022-09-06 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, Anyone is having problem with Nautilus crashing on launch using Buster ? Thanks -- Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:02:10 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 19:30:37 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT Dav

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 10:39:33 EDT gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:08:45 EDT Anssi Saari wrote: > > gene heskett writes: > > > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, > > > which > > > is usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in > > > /lib/udev/

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 10:39:33 EDT gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:08:45 EDT Anssi Saari wrote: > > gene heskett writes: > > > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, > > > which > > > is usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in > > > /lib/udev/

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 19:30:37 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), g

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:08:45 EDT Anssi Saari wrote: > gene heskett writes: > > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, which > > is usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in > > /lib/udev/rules.d where I can fix this until the next udev update? > > It seems alm

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread Anssi Saari
gene heskett writes: > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, which is > usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in /lib/udev/rules.d where > I can fix this until the next udev update? It seems almost certain the permissions for /dev/ttyUSB* won't stick, unless y

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andr

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andr

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:25:59AM -04

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