On Sun April 13 2008 03:19:15 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Florian Kulze
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:19:15PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
> F
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
>>>
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> Is this the right ro
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:41:21 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Andrew,
> > > I loved Flying Circus!
> > No, you didn't!
> Well, now you're just contradicting.
To argue, one has to take up a contrary stance.
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 05:45:01PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:36:26 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > ...
> > >
> > > As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
> > > AGAIN.
>
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
No, you didn
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >> Is this the right room for an argument?
> >>
> >
> > HA-H!
> >
> > I loved Flying Circus!
>
> No, you didn't!
Well, now you're just cont
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 02:25:49PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> [...]
>
> > only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
> > comin'
...
>
> Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I
> am c
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> Is this the right room for an argument?
>>
>
> HA-H!
>
> I loved Flying Circus!
No, you didn't!
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Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[...]
> only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
> comin'
>
> A
Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I
am currently restoring a 1948 IH KB1, myself. Parts and reliable
information are
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:36:26 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> ...
> >
> > As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
> > AGAIN.
>
> only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
> c
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
...
>
> As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
AGAIN.
only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
comin'
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> On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote:
> > The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders.
> > But you make a good point. However, I would prefer it if the
> > breeders were in the arid Southwest deserts, a
On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China
> >
> > France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they
> > use breeder reactors. We should, too.
>
> The problems with waste
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:52:10 pm Steve Lamb wrote:
> Mike Bird wrote:
> > You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to
> > corporations in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax
> > should be zero. Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to
> > p
Ron Johnson wrote:
If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China
France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they
use breeder reactors. We should, too.
The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders.
But you make a good
Mike Bird wrote:
> You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to corporations
> in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax should be zero.
> Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to pay for the
> infrastucture and military necessary for corporations
On Fri April 11 2008 20:18:33 Steve Lamb wrote:
> You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who
> pass the the bill onto individuals. It was 0% before and its 0% now.
> Individuals paid it then and individuals pay it now. You just want it back
> because it's a secret t
Paul Johnson wrote:
> Eliminating all
> corporate tax breaks would be a good idea, as well: After World War II,
> corporations accounted for nearly 40% of US tax revenue, today it's less than
> 5%.
You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who pass
the the bill onto
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On 04/11/08 21:30, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your hist
On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> >> It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
> >> economic growth in the history of the US.
> >
> > Reagan
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On 04/11/08 20:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the
>> balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking
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On 04/11/08 21:12, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote:
>> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> >>> Health care would be a big one.
>> >>
>> >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
>> >> and pe
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On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
>
>> It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
>> economic growth in the history of the US.
>
> Reagan was still starr
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> >>> Health care would be a big one.
> >>
> >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
> >> and people so much more eager to sue.
> >
> > Depends on the country. In France, they pay less t
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
> economic growth in the history of the US.
Reagan was still starring in movies or acting as the president of the labor
union he was a member of during much of t
On Friday 11 April 2008 02:01:43 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >>> Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those
> >>> tax
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the
> balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking about an
> international commodities market and thus don't have the aboslute authority
> to m
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:40:05 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy on the free
> market has nothing to do with $100/barrel, does it?
You are confusing correlation with causation. China's been industrializing
for the last 20 years now. Oil
Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> Health care would be a big one.
>> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
>> and people so much more eager to sue.
>
> Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with
those taxes they get college and healthcare at no extra charg
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On 04/11/08 17:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>>> Just because
>>> he's
>>> dead
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> > Just because
> > he's
> > dead now doesn't mean he didn't have good ideas that worked wonders,
> > contrary
> > to what Rush
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:41:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote:
> [snip]
> > Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It
>
> Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently
> Drinking
the soberly impaired?
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On 04/11/08 15:40, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
[snip]
>
> your knowledge of Linux is very good. Your knowledge of economics is
> not as good. The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy
> on the free market has nothing to do with $100/bar
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On 04/11/08 15:20, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>
> We saw what happens under Reagan. It degenerates into the libertarian
> dystopia we're approaching now.
I hate it when I agree with you...
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On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>>> Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those
>>> taxes they get college and
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote:
pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel.
Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq?
wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil!
Worst yet, the way the
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 1
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote:
> pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel.
>
> Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq?
>
> wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil!
Worst yet, the way the whole thing was orchest
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wro
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On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote:
[snip]
> Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It
Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently
Drinking
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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/06/08 02:20
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:54:20AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 04/11/08 08:18, David Fox wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things,
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY
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On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
>>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >> [snip]
>
> It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about
> $3
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On 04/11/08 08:18, David Fox wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
>> I'll *never* drink cheap beer, you insensitive cl
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
> I'll *never* drink cheap beer, you insensitive clod!
You know, thunderbird isn't just a web browser. :)
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On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>>
>
It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal.
>>> Come on g
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >>
> >> It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal.
> >
> > Come on guys, it's not fair. You are complaining about 3$/gal for milk
> > and gas? What about Eu
On Thursday 10 April 2008 11:51:24 am Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> > >> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
> > >>
> > >> [snip]
> > >>
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On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>> What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending B
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:07:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/06/08 13:23, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this
> >> list. Why? They're drinking cheap be
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On 04/06/08 13:23, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>
>> And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this
>> list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and procreating like ra
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this
> list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and procreating like rabbits.
Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
I'll *never* drink cheap
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On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending BOTH
>>> the difference in th
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending BOTH
> > the difference in their original taxes in 2006 and their rebate checks
> > straight to the education system. (R
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On 04/05/08 21:59, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
>>> I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would
>>> be to wonder if you've ever tal
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On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending BOTH
> the difference in their original taxes in 2006 and their rebate checks
> straight to the education system. (Rolling eyes.)
Y
On Apr 5, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Nate Duehr wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote:
I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth
at all? I
can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children
are an
extremely
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Nate Duehr wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote:
> > I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth
> > at all? I
> > can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children
> > are an
> > extremely valuable asset to a species i
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would
be to wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
Of course I know parents
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote:
I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth
at all? I
can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children
are an
extremely valuable asset to a species in the now as well as the
future.
I never said anything o
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would
> > be to wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
>
> Of course I know parents, and the ones who don't have anything
>
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Nate Duehr shared this with us all:
>--} By your standard, less than 2% of the entire world's population should
>--} > ever consider parenthood, and those would be the richest 2% on the
>--} > planet.
>--} >
>--} > Unless you're at least a multi-millionaire (considering numbers
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to
> wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
Of course I know parents, and the ones who don't have anything resembling that
kind of money lined up pretty much have
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On 04/05/08 19:46, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
>
> Not going to dive into the fray about overpopulation and people having
> children who can't afford to raise them... but I will comment that
> having finished my 2007 taxes here recently, and as a (by cho
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
Seems kind
of stupid to put yourself in that kind of ethical dilemma in the
first place. It's not like there aren't six billion other people on
this already overpopulated rock, plopping out another before you can
afford to raise it through age 18
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On 04/05/08 16:24, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>
> I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to
> wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
No, but he talks to lots of... w
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Friday 04 April 2008 10:35:26 am Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I would agree with you. I know there are people who will starve
> > rather than violate their beliefs, but I also wonder what he would
> > do if he had a kid to feed and his choice was to pr
On Friday 04 April 2008 10:35:26 am Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I would agree with you. I know there are people who will starve rather
> than violate their beliefs, but I also wonder what he would do if he
> had a kid to feed and his choice was to program for a company that
> produces closed source soft
On Friday 04 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/04/08 19:09, s. keeling wrote:
> > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> >>> AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly
> >>> free -- it's the Gentoo
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On 04/04/08 19:09, s. keeling wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
>>> AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
>>> -- it's the Gentoo based U
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> >
> > AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
> > -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he
> > held in Belgrade, Serbia.
>
> I
Hal Vaughan wrote:
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Hierarchy of Needs, will say survival is important while those focused
on the higher levels (focused on self actualization) where, since it's
Maslow
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On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
> >> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> >>> On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
> Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTEC
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
> >> Ivan Savcic wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
> >>>
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional f
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
> Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
> >> almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of
> >> a
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:42:47AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > > > AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
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I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost
assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the
user to choose to use non-free software within the s
On Friday 04 April 2008, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
> > almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of
> > allowing the user to choose t
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:42:47AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > > AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly
> > > free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1].
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost
> assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the
> user to choose to use non-free software within the structure of it's
>
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly
> > free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his
> > talk he held in Belgrade, Serbia.
>
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
> -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he
> held in Belgrade, Serbia.
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson
> > |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hal Vaughan wrote on 2008-04-04 02:38:
> According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him give
> last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it includes
> non-free software.
>
> I'm not saying I agree with him on thi
On Thursday 03 April 2008, CaT wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:16:56PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote:
> > a distro debate. I have used something similar as such with a
> > gentoo mate.
>
> So how did mating Gentoo go for you?
Do Gentoos mate? I thought they reproduced by spores.
Hal
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Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him
> give last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it
> includes non-free software.
>
> I'm not saying I agree with him on this, but it is his opinion that
> there are only a
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:16:56PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote:
> a distro debate. I have used something similar as such with a gentoo mate.
So how did mating Gentoo go for you?
cat
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On 04/04/2008, Chris Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ron Johnson wrote:
> | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson
> |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
> |>
> |> No, it's just you can't have all. It
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On 04/03/08 19:19, Chris Walters wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
> |> No, it's
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Ron Johnson wrote:
| On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
|> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
|> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromis
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On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > So to wrap this long rant up, less people use Debian? Who cares!
>> > People who use it *know* why they use it. Why try to "sell" a d
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