Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-22 Thread lee
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:31:23AM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > Did you ever try to proceed like this: > > "Would you please give me your name again, I forgot to note it. If > $STATEMENT is the official position of $COMPANY, i'll cite it on my > web page." No, but nobody cares what I might pu

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-21 Thread Siggy Brentrup
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 01:14 -0600, lee wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:58:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Their answer "We don't support Linux", repeatedly, even though, of > > course, BIOS disk detection has nothing to do with Linux. > > I got the same answer from Gigabyte (two

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-21 Thread lee
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:58:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Their answer "We don't support Linux", repeatedly, even though, of > course, BIOS disk detection has nothing to do with Linux. I got the same answer from Gigabyte (two of my disks are not detected by the BIOS when AHCI is enabl

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-21 Thread lee
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:52:52AM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:44 AM, lee wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:03:51PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: > >> Asus BIOSes can be upgraded using a usb memory since the release the > >> first Pentium 4/Athlon XP mainboards. > > > >

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-21 00:52, Victor Padro wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:44 AM, lee wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:03:51PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: Asus BIOSes can be upgraded using a usb memory since the release the first Pentium 4/Athlon XP mainboards. Then their support could have told me t

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread Victor Padro
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:44 AM, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:03:51PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: >> Asus BIOSes can be upgraded using a usb memory since the release the >> first Pentium 4/Athlon XP mainboards. > > Then their support could have told me that, I asked them ... > > > -- > T

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread lee
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:03:51PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: > Asus BIOSes can be upgraded using a usb memory since the release the > first Pentium 4/Athlon XP mainboards. Then their support could have told me that, I asked them ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-20 13:10, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Sorry I can't be more specific, Ron. I do read some of the tech blogs and testing sites, but they are not generally specific to Debian or Linux, usually, so I can't point you to a best choice. :) phoronix is Linux-oriented, and gave 5 stars to

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread Mark Allums
Since I had seen a lot of Asus boards for PII-350s working just fine and Asus had (has?) a good reputation, I thought I'd try Asus instead of MSI. I should say that I have not used every consumer/enthusiast mb out there, I can only report on those I have used. I tend to use ASUS boards beca

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread Victor Padro
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:13 AM, lee wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 03:12:46AM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: >> lee wrote: >>> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:22:08 -0500, >>> Mark Allums wrote: >> >> Not being able to update the BIOS is not an ASUS problem.  Actually, >> ASUS is very good about updating thei

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread lee
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 03:12:46AM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > lee wrote: >> At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:22:08 -0500, >> Mark Allums wrote: > > Not being able to update the BIOS is not an ASUS problem. Actually, > ASUS is very good about updating their BIOSes. I never heard of a board > you couldn

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-20 Thread Mark Allums
lee wrote: At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:22:08 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: ASUS is not a "no-name" board. Dell, HP, and others use ASUS OEM bords in their computers. That doesn't mean that they are still good like they used to be. I've seen 10--15 out of 25 Asus boards, all the same model, giving Win

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread lee
At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:22:08 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > ASUS is not a "no-name" board. Dell, HP, and others use ASUS OEM bords > in their computers. That doesn't mean that they are still good like they used to be. I've seen 10--15 out of 25 Asus boards, all the same model, giving Windoze XP tr

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Allums
Ron Johnson wrote: It's not even the CPU that I'm having trouble with, but the BIOS and chipset. My recommendation of Intel Core i7/X58+ICH10 is only if you end up having to replace the CPU, memory, etc., as well as the motherboard. Otherwise, stick with AMD. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Allums
David Christensen wrote: Mark Allums wrote: ... rethinking the brand loyalty. The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current overall winner. I was an Intel guy for many years, after having been burned on no-name motherboards. Intel's products and technical support were to

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-19 16:26, David Christensen wrote: Mark Allums wrote: ... rethinking the brand loyalty. The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current overall winner. [snip] Companies that get in bed with Microsoft and pay for Windows > Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL) testing en

RE: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread David Christensen
Mark Allums wrote: > ... rethinking the brand loyalty. > The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current > overall winner. I was an Intel guy for many years, after having been burned on no-name motherboards. Intel's products and technical support were top-shelf 10+ years ago.

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-18 21:50, Wayne Topa wrote: lee wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:41:03AM -0400, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] I recently had to replace a MD and ended up with a Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P. It meets or exceeds your specs and was not as expensive as I had e

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-19 02:51, Mark Allums wrote: ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty seeing more than 4 devices. (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.) Here are my needs: - AM2 socket - ATX form factor, - 6 (or even 8) SATA sock

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Allums
ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty seeing more than 4 devices. (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.) Here are my needs: - AM2 socket - ATX form factor, - 6 (or even 8) SATA sockets, - 4 DIMM slots. On-board 1394

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-18 Thread Wayne Topa
lee wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:41:03AM -0400, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] I recently had to replace a MD and ended up with a Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P. It meets or exceeds your specs and was not as expensive as I had expected (newegg) [snip] 8 x SATA 3GB

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-18 Thread lee
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:41:03AM -0400, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: > Wayne Topa wrote: > [snip] > > > > I recently had to replace a MD and ended up with a Gigabyte > > GA-MA790X-UD4P. It meets or exceeds your specs and was not as expensive > > as I had expected (newegg) > > > [snip] > > 8

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-18 Thread ron.l.johnson
Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] > > I recently had to replace a MD and ended up with a Gigabyte > GA-MA790X-UD4P. It meets or exceeds your specs and was not as expensive > as I had expected (newegg) > [snip] > 8 x SATA 3GB connectors [snip] > > Working like a champ here. Thanks. I'll look into it.

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-18 Thread Wayne Topa
ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty seeing more than 4 devices. (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.) Here are my needs: - AM2 socket - ATX form factor, - 6 (or even 8) SATA sockets, - 4 DIMM slots. On-board 1394

[Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-17 Thread ron.l.johnson
Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty seeing more than 4 devices. (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.) Here are my needs: - AM2 socket - ATX form factor, - 6 (or even 8) SATA sockets, - 4 DIMM slots. On-board 1394 would be useful. The A780GX