Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-10 Thread Mike M
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 12:26, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > i guess this thread is > demonstrating well that it's really all a matter of personal > preference, and that what works for some may be what's causing pain in > others. Take wrist health very seriously though. The damage to wrists is slow a

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-10 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 06:00:35PM +, p wrote: > ...and for me, dvorak makes all the difference in the world. I personally love my Acer TravelMate (laptop) keyboard. It's every so slightly curved and has enough depth where the track pad sits that my wrists can sit flat across the top of the co

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-10 Thread p
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 12:26:49PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Sat, 07 Jun 2003 02:23:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson insinuated: > > I mostly hate the MS "natural" keyboards with a purple passion. > > Yeah, they have a nice angle that keeps your wrists fairly nice and > > straight horizontally, but

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-10 Thread Mike Dresser
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > demonstrating well that it's really all a matter of personal > preference, and that what works for some may be what's causing pain in > others. Indeed, if I use an "ergonomic" split keyboard I usually get wrist/arm pains in about 15 minutes, but can ty

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:53:01AM +0200, Christoph Groth insinuated: > Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > do you all use some combination of careful keyboard > > height/placement, a good chair, and a good keyboard? is there > > some other component that you take into account? i'm inte

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 07 Jun 2003 02:23:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson insinuated: > I mostly hate the MS "natural" keyboards with a purple passion. > Yeah, they have a nice angle that keeps your wrists fairly nice and > straight horizontally, but the steep angle of the damn things tend > to encourage you to bend your

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-10 Thread Christoph Groth
Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > do you all use some combination of careful keyboard height/placement, > a good chair, and a good keyboard? is there some other component that > you take into account? i'm interested in whatever you do to make your > work area more ergonomically sound.

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:36:43PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 04:07, Paul Johnson wrote: ... > Oh, and just to give them a mention, let's not forget about trackballs > and touchpads. Both are good alternatives to mice, and great if you > don't do too much really "fast pac

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 05:29:25PM +0100, Ben Kal wrote: > I care very little about ergonomy. Although I do spend a lot of time working > with computers, and that already for many years, I have so far been so lucky > that it hardly ever gives me any tr

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Clive Menzies
On (07/06/03 15:44), Pigeon wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 02:07:29AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:27:37PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > > > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 02:07:29AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:27:37PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days > > ago, i've been issued a

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 04:07, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 --snip-- > If you're using a mouse, keep your wrist fairly straight, and try to > use your whole arm to move the mouse. Using your wrist alone is just > begging for carpal tunnel syndrome; just your

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Ben Kal
On 6 Jun 2003 Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups you > use at home and in the office. > [snip] > > [snip] > i'm interested in whatever you do to make your work area more > ergonomically sound. I care very little about er

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 07:21:08PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > Where from? The only genuine IBM clicky keyboard I've seen for ages > and ages and ages is the one I'm typing this on, which I pulled out of > a skip... (Thank you, Lord, for skips.) I'm a huge

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:27:37PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days > ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Friday 06 June 2003 19:27, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > hey debian folk, > > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days > ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for > the wrist stra

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 16:51, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2003-06-06 16:58:49, Kevin McKinley wrote: > > I strongly concur with "drink lots of plain water". I wish I'd discovered > > the importance of this much earlier in life. > > Sounds like you guys should run a hose instead :-) > > > /Allan Ah, b

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:10:31PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > Other than that, I don't really bother with chair adjustments, monitor > adjustments, fancy chairs, etc. After all, your employer is much more > likely to get you a comfortable keyboard than a new, ergonomically > designed office se

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Allan Wind
On 2003-06-06 16:58:49, Kevin McKinley wrote: > I strongly concur with "drink lots of plain water". I wish I'd discovered > the importance of this much earlier in life. Sounds like you guys should run a hose instead :-) /Allan -- Allan Wind P.O. Box 2022 Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA pgp0.pgp

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Alan Shutko
Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I hear you on that one. I've found that the best way for my wrists is > to place the keyboard on my lap. Me too! (Laptopping professionally for over 3 years.) > Unfortunately, for a laptop, that means I'm looking almost straight > down, which strains

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:27:37 -0400 Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days > ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for > the wrist

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 09:54]: > hey debian folk, > > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days > ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for > the wrist st

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 11:27, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > hey debian folk, > > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days > ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for > the wrist stra

Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Mike Dresser
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > hey debian folk, > > i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups > you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days > ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for > the wrist strain. i ca

[OT] ergonomic setups

2003-06-06 Thread Nori Heikkinen
hey debian folk, i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups you use at home and in the office. as i mentioned a couple of days ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for the wrist strain. i can have a desktop if i want, and i think i'm going to a