On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:51:12AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Word Perfect 5.0 for DOS. The ability to see EXACTLY what codes where
> where made finding those formatting errors so much easier.
5.1 was the defacto standard AIR -- don't remember 5.0. How long was
5.0 in use, can you remember?
s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote:
> > >
> > > machines though. OSF/1 wasn't originally available for non-Ultra
s/Ultra/Alpha/
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Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote:
> >
> > machines though. OSF/1 wasn't originally available for non-Ultra
> > processors.
>
> Ultras? UltraSPARCS?
I may have used the wrong name. What's the ca. '96 DEC processor line
for workstations/small servers?
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On 05/12/07 02:51, william pursell wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote:
>>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
How do you limit t
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote:
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote:
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
How do you limit the number of batch jobs that can run at any one
time? (If the "job limit" of a queue is 4 and you submit 20 j
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On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote:
>>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why
Unix has never had su
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:36:42AM +, s. keeling wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote:
> > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why
> > >> Unix has never had such a capabil
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:06:09AM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 05/10/07 22:34, cga2000 wrote:
> > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:04:06PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote:
> [snip]
> >>> be sitting in the editor w
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote:
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why
> >> Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding.
> >
> > man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm
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On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why
>> Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding.
>
> man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm -
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why
> Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding.
man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm - queue, examine or delete jobs for
later execution.
> (NO!! cron is *not* an adequate
On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:09:59 -0400
cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:50:34AM EDT, Tyler Smith wrote:
> > On 2007-05-10, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> > > Also, I just prefer having fewer windows open.
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On 05/10/07 22:34, cga2000 wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:04:06PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote:
[snip]
>>> be sitting in the editor where you left it. It provides
>>> continuity by allowing you to leave you
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:04:06PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote:
> > Tyler Smith wrote:
> >> Second, and more to the (OT) point, what does screen do better than
> >> multiple xterms, or shell-mode in Emacs?
>
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:50:34AM EDT, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-05-10, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> First, for someone who claims not to be a *nix wizard you are not
> >> very convincing. There aren't a lot of 20 year-old non-compsci
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:09:11AM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-05-10, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > She's a user wizard, not an admin wizard.
> >
>
> Clearly!
>
> >
> > Screen(1) is what Unix users used before x terminals and PCs were
> > inexpensive enough for everyone t
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On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote:
> Tyler Smith wrote:
>> Second, and more to the (OT) point, what does screen do better than
>> multiple xterms, or shell-mode in Emacs?
>>
> Possibly the nicest feature of screen is the ability to
> detach i
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:38:01PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote:
> > > > You have now officially blown your cover. Just waiting for
> > > > the photographic proof that you are actually a crusty old AI
> > > > hacker with a long beard and sandals... aha! here you are:
>
> Hahaha...wow...if I were les
"Kelly Clowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> RE: "just" a literature nerd - a very impressive literature nerd,
> when you are more CLI oriented than someone who is a future
> sysadmin and is trying to become as CLI oriented as possible.
...Well, that whole thing kind of started because I just never used
Tyler Smith wrote:
Second, and more to the (OT) point, what does screen do better than
multiple xterms, or shell-mode in Emacs?
Possibly the nicest feature of screen is the ability to
detach it, and the ability to attach multiple times. For
example, you can run a screen session, start a sh
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:21:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> I *knew* you weren't a Real Geek
>
I see from another post, she does BibTex too.
Doug.
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On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:21:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> You were born 25 years late.
>
You (and I suspect a lot of us) would have proposed.
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Ron Johnson wrote:
I'm working
on a paper and/or answering emails. The reason I took the time to
learn this setup isn't just that I don't do mousiness; it's mostly
that I can do my work with a minimum of distraction and frustration
this way,
Tyler Smith:
> On 2007-05-10, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Also,
>> I just prefer having fewer windows open. And if for some reason I
>> have to restart X, I don't lose whatever was going on in the
>> terminal since it just "detaches" instead of closing and killing
>> whatever pro
On 2007-05-10, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> First, for someone who claims not to be a *nix wizard you are not
>> very convincing. There aren't a lot of 20 year-old non-compsci
>> geeks around that don't at least use a graphical browser ;)
>
>
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On 05/09/07 23:25, Amy Templeton wrote:
> Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> First, for someone who claims not to be a *nix wizard you are not
>> very convincing. There aren't a lot of 20 year-old non-compsci
>> geeks around that don't at least
On 5/9/07, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what does screen do better than multiple xterms
Mouseless paste (that's how I found out about it, actually). Also,
I just prefer having fewer windows open. And if for some reason I
have to restart X, I d
Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, for someone who claims not to be a *nix wizard you are not
> very convincing. There aren't a lot of 20 year-old non-compsci
> geeks around that don't at least use a graphical browser ;)
Well, I do also use Iceweasel, but the Hit-a-Hint extension isn'
On 2007-05-10, Roberto C Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I really like about screen is that it makes having multiple things
> going on via a remote connection very easily. I use keychain to manage
> loading my ssh and gpg keys into memory. So, if I log in multiple
> times, only the las
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:09:11AM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-05-10, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Screen(1) is what Unix users used before x terminals and PCs were
> > inexpensive enough for everyone to have one.
> >
>
> That much I know. Why would an acknowledged user-wizar
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:49:30PM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
>
> Second, and more to the (OT) point, what does screen do better than
> multiple xterms, or shell-mode in Emacs? I'm pretty mouseless most of
> the time, emacs and xterm being my primary tools, but I keep seeing
> reference to this scr
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On 05/09/07 20:09, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-05-10, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> She's a user wizard, not an admin wizard.
>>
>
> Clearly!
>
>> Screen(1) is what Unix users used before x terminals and PCs were
>> inexpensive enough fo
On 2007-05-10, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> She's a user wizard, not an admin wizard.
>
Clearly!
>
> Screen(1) is what Unix users used before x terminals and PCs were
> inexpensive enough for everyone to have one.
>
That much I know. Why would an acknowledged user-wizard choose to
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On 05/09/07 17:49, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-05-09, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> mmiller3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Amy" == Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I do not use or install mouse-based programs if
>>
On 2007-05-09, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mmiller3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Amy" == Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I do not use or install mouse-based programs if
> I can avoid it (I use the Stump Window Manager, and generally have
> only two frames open at
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:44:21PM +0100,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When I am SSH'd into a server and then use the screen command, how do
> I detach/re-attach the screen if I am in the middle of running a
> process (apt/vim document etc.). I have read the man file and it talks
> about 'C-a' comma
Stuart Luscombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SL> When I am SSH'd into a server and then use the screen command, how
SL> do I detach/re-attach the screen if I am in the middle of running
SL> a process (apt/vim document etc.). I have read the man file and it
SL> talks about 'C-a' commands, but I canno
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2001-09-27 19:10):
> When I am SSH'd into a server and then use the screen command, how do
> I detach/re-attach the screen if I am in the middle of running a
> process (apt/vim document etc.). I have read the man file and it talks
> about 'C-a' commands,
When I am SSH'd into a server and then use the screen command, how do I
detach/re-attach the screen
if I am in the middle of running a process (apt/vim document etc.). I have read
the man file and it talks about 'C-a'
commands, but I cannot seem to work these out. I have tried Ctrl+alt, but this
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