On 2009-07-23 21:04, John Hasler wrote:
Ron Johnson writes:
BSD had to have a cc before gcc came along, no?
Yes. It shipped with the non-free[1] pcc until 1994 when it was replaced
with gcc.
Interesting. That must have been part of the fallout from The Lawsuit.
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Ron Johnson writes:
> BSD had to have a cc before gcc came along, no?
Yes. It shipped with the non-free[1] pcc until 1994 when it was replaced
with gcc.
[1] There is now a BSD-licensed pcc.
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On 2009-07-23 19:51, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Neal Hogan wrote:
And thanks for reminding us of the essential role of gcc, glibc, and
binutils. I'm too new to GNU/linux to remember.. but would anything
have been possible without them?
yes
well sure, if you were working on ITS or some othe
> Saying GNU doesn't produce software is like saying Debian doesn't produce
> dpkg, apt-get, and aptitude.
There's a big difference: most GNU software was written first and then
integrated as part of the GNU project.
Stefan
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Neal Hogan wrote:
And thanks for reminding us of the essential role of gcc, glibc, and
binutils. I'm too new to GNU/linux to remember.. but would anything
have been possible without them?
yes
well sure, if you were working on ITS or some other research operating
system, otherwise, the
> And thanks for reminding us of the essential role of gcc, glibc, and
> binutils. I'm too new to GNU/linux to remember.. but would anything
> have been possible without them?
yes
>
> CJ
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:46:09PM EDT, David L. Craig wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 04:27:05PM EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
> > > What the GNU project has done is give a name and a visibility,
> > > defined a set of guidelines (an
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 04:27:05PM EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >
> > What the GNU project has done is give a name and a visibility, defined
> > a set of guidelines (and licenses) and created the expectations that
> > define both the O
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <2009074953.ga29...@codelibre.net>, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> I write software specifically for Debian as a
>> Debian Developer (schroot, sbuild and other bits). I'd say that those
>> were created by Debian, as is al
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 04:27:05PM EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > I'm not sure the GNU project produces the majority of Debian, by
> > any metric.
>
> I'm pretty sure it doesn't, because by and large "the GNU project"
> doesn't produce any software. It provides technical, philosophical,
> ethical
In <2009074953.ga29...@codelibre.net>, Roger Leigh wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:19:51AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> Debian doesn't *create* much software.[1] They do a lot of packaging
>> and bug-wrangling, but Debian depends on upstream being available to add
>> features, wr
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:25:00PM EDT, Charlie wrote:
> Then should GNU go before Debian or after?
Big apple, green apple, bad apple.. they're all basically apples..
or are you talking about oranges..?
Sorry about about going one up on the OT.
CJ
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:19:51AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <200907221325.01147.aries...@clearmail.com.au>, Charlie wrote:
> >I was recently informed that my signature had a problem rendering
> > correctly on someone's mailer - deliniter incorrect - and was told that
> > my signatu
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:12:54 -0500
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> Big props to GNU, but when I'm talking about my OS, I use "Debian" or
> "Linux" and not "GNU" to describe it, and I don't have any problem
> with others doing the same. I do try to use to official name in
> writing or formal p
In , Stefan Monnier
wrote:
>> I'm not sure the GNU project produces the majority of Debian, by
>> any metric.
>
>I'm pretty sure it doesn't, because by and large "the GNU project"
>doesn't produce any software. It provides technical, philosophical,
>ethical, and political support to help and enco
> I'm not sure the GNU project produces the majority of Debian, by
> any metric.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't, because by and large "the GNU project"
doesn't produce any software. It provides technical, philosophical,
ethical, and political support to help and encourage the development and
use of F
In <200907221325.01147.aries...@clearmail.com.au>, Charlie wrote:
>I was recently informed that my signature had a problem rendering
> correctly on someone's mailer - deliniter incorrect - and was told that
> my signature "Linux Debian" should read "Debian GNU/Linux" because:
> "considering that th
Charlie wrote:
> first so should be first, that without it there would be no Debian? Or
> as I asked my correspondent, who never replied, would there have been
> an OpenBSD Debian or something like that? Then should GNU go before
> Debian or after? Or
Nate Bargmann already replied about the offic
* Charlie [2009 Jul 21 22:26 -0500]:
> I'm just interested and imagine there will not be a definitive answer to this
> at all.
Without all the silliness, the proper name of the distribution from the
main Web page is "Debian GNU/Linux X.x". Beyond that the rest is
personal preference.
- Nate >
On Wed,22.Jul.09, 13:25:00, Charlie wrote:
>
> Just a general off topic query.
>
> I was recently informed that my signature had a problem rendering correctly
> on
> someone's mailer - deliniter incorrect -
The delimiter () is ok, but then you have an empty
line and some more text. At least
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:51:34 -0500
Ron Johnson wrote:
> The
> people (and their sophomore acolytes) who insist on "GNU/Linux" are
> jealous pissed off sour grapes whiners who haven't been able to get
> a decent Hurd kernel in *20 years*.
I'm stealing this for a .sig and will attribute it to e
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Raj Kiran Grandhi shared this with us all:
>--} Charlie wrote:
>--} > Just a general off topic query.
>--} >
>--} > I was recently informed that my signature had a problem rendering
> correctly on --} > someone's mailer - deliniter incorrect - and was told
> that my signature "
On 2009-07-21 22:25, Charlie wrote:
Just a general off topic query.
I was recently informed that my signature had a problem rendering correctly on
someone's mailer - deliniter incorrect - and was told that my signature "Linux
Debian" should read "Debian GNU/Linux" because: "considering that th
Charlie wrote:
Just a general off topic query.
I was recently informed that my signature had a problem rendering correctly on
someone's mailer - deliniter incorrect - and was told that my signature "Linux
Debian" should read "Debian GNU/Linux" because: "considering that the majority
of it is
Just a general off topic query.
I was recently informed that my signature had a problem rendering correctly on
someone's mailer - deliniter incorrect - and was told that my signature "Linux
Debian" should read "Debian GNU/Linux" because: "considering that the majority
of it is provided by GNU.
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