Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 06:00:11 +0200, MJM wrote: > On Monday 04 August 2003 21:40, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: >> > // change the way it is accessed to prove a point int * p_b = (int >> >*)  p_a; >> >> Ouch. > > Try this in /usr/src/linux/kernel > > $ grep *\) *.c This is unfair. First, it's kernel-l

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 19:00:11 +0200, MJM wrote: > I learned last night that there is a 3rd Ed. Evidently things have > changed and the complex language has gotten more complex - Right. > trying to be all things to all people. If this continues, C++ will be > too complex for normal programmers.

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:00:12 +0200, MJM wrote: > Will the free store be properly maintained when the following is > executed? // a simple object is defined typedef struct { >uint32_t a; >uint64_t b; >uint8_tc; > } t_my_type; No typedef needed. This is C++. struct t_my_type {

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread Isaac To
> "Al" == Al Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Al> Since you didn't say what uint64_t is, let me make a diabolical Al> definition of it. uint64_t is a type defined in C99, which is always a 64-bit unsigned integer. Whether it is already in your C++ compiler depends pretty much on pla

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread Bijan Soleymani
--jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 10:36:42AM -0400, MJM wrote: > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 01:02, Dave Carrigan wrote: > > >?Language experts sure get their shorts knotted

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:40:42AM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:00:12 +0200, MJM wrote: > > // change the way it is accessed to prove a point int * p_b = (int *) > > p_a; > > // p_a and p_b point to the same block of dyn. allocated memory; > > Do they? Watch out for inhe

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread MJM
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 14:02, Pigeon wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:40:42AM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:00:12 +0200, MJM wrote: > > > // change the way it is accessed to prove a point int * p_b = (int *) > > > p_a; > > > // p_a and p_b point to the same block o

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread MJM
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 09:30, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > They do. My app would be broken from the start if I could not rely on > > this capability.  This style of type conversion is covered in elementary > > C++ books by Bjarne.  It's not unusual. > > Exactly where? I don't remember such cast

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 10:36:42AM -0400, MJM wrote: > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 01:02, Dave Carrigan wrote: > > > Language experts sure get their shorts knotted up over simple questions. > > >   > > > > Because your question had to do with undefined and > > implementation-dependent behavior. >

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-11 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:00:13 +0200, Pigeon wrote: >> No. You have to delete the original pointer (with the original type). >> Everything else is undefined behaviour, i.e. it could work, it could >> leak memory (completely or partly), it could crash, or even print "42". >> It might even work someti

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030805 12:52]: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:40:42AM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:00:12 +0200, MJM wrote: > > > I think the free store will be maintained properly because there is a > > > control block attached to the allocated block of stor

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-07 Thread MJM
On Monday 04 August 2003 21:40, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > // change the way it is accessed to prove a point int * p_b = (int *) > > p_a; > > Ouch. Try this in /usr/src/linux/kernel $ grep *\) *.c > > > // p_a and p_b point to the same block of dyn. allocated memory; > > Do they? They do. My

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-07 Thread MJM
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 15:20, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > You obviously don't understand the point of the new cast operators. They > don't take power away from you, in fact they give you more power than > before I didn't _know_ about the new cast operators and yet things are working very well

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-06 Thread Al Davis
I think all of the responses are missing something very important. Let me try On Sunday 03 August 2003 08:57 pm, MJM wrote: > Will the free store be properly maintained when the following > is executed? // a simple object is defined > typedef struct > { >uint32_t a; >uint64_t b;

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-06 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:30:57PM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 06:00:11 +0200, MJM wrote: > > That was way over the top. That stuff is for compiler writers, not > > application programmers. I did not start a knowledge contest. If I did > > inadvertently, then you win. > >

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-06 Thread Isaac To
> "MJM" == MJM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MJM> They do. My app would be broken from the start if I could not rely MJM> on this capability. This style of type conversion is covered in MJM> elementary C++ books by Bjarne. It's not unusual. You must be MJM> aware of what you

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-06 Thread MJM
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 01:02, Dave Carrigan wrote: > > Language experts sure get their shorts knotted up over simple questions. > >   > > Because your question had to do with undefined and > implementation-dependent behavior. I know that. See my other posts. I asked a question about handli

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-06 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:21:04PM -0400, MJM wrote: > On Monday 04 August 2003 21:40, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > > // change the way it is accessed to prove a point int * p_b = (int *) > > > p_a; > > > > Ouch. > > Try this in /usr/src/linux/kernel > > $ grep *\) *.c Well, C is not C++, so grep

Re: [OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-04 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 10:57:21PM -0400, MJM wrote: > Will the free store be properly maintained when the following is executed? Yes. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

[OT] C++ question re. dyn. mem.

2003-08-03 Thread MJM
Will the free store be properly maintained when the following is executed? // a simple object is defined typedef struct { uint32_t a; uint64_t b; uint8_t c; } t_my_type; // allocate some memory for an instance of this object t_my_type * p_a = (t_my_type) new t_my_type; // chan