Re: [users] Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:36:04 Kent West wrote: > D-Man wrote: > > > > Well, business is (almost entirely) built on _wants_ not _needs_. Who > > _needs_ a computer in the first place, after all? All we _need_ is > > water, food, shelter, clothes, and companionship :-). > > > Geeks need comp

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread D-Man
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 05:36:04PM -0500, Kent West wrote: | D-Man wrote: | | > Well, business is (almost entirely) built on _wants_ not _needs_. Who | > _needs_ a computer in the first place, after all? All we _need_ is | > water, food, shelter, clothes, and companionship :-). | | Geeks need

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Kent West (on Tue, 03 Jul 2001 05:36:04PM -0500): > And clothes?!! thanks, kent, we didn't *need* to know. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- as i was going up the stair i met a man who was

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Tom Massey
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 05:13:09PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: > shipped their systems with that Conexant SoftK56 piece of junk modem. Is that the HSF or HSP version? If HSF, you might like to check out And see if you can get it working u

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Kent West
D-Man wrote: Well, business is (almost entirely) built on _wants_ not _needs_. Who _needs_ a computer in the first place, after all? All we _need_ is water, food, shelter, clothes, and companionship :-). Geeks need companionship?! And clothes?!!

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 06:30:59PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: > also sprach User zos (on Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:19:26PM -0400): > > I had the same problem with getting drivers for an HP printer once. I find > > it totally absurd that you pay to buy a printer (or a computer) from a > > company and

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 12:19:26PM -0400, User zos wrote: > I had the same problem with getting drivers for an HP printer once. I find > it totally absurd that you pay to buy a printer (or a computer) from a > company and when you lose the driver disk you have to literally BUY > another one from th

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach D-Man (on Tue, 03 Jul 2001 01:31:15PM -0400): > Well, business is (almost entirely) built on _wants_ not _needs_. Who > _needs_ a computer in the first place, after all? All we _need_ is > water, food, shelter, clothes, and companionship :-). except that my 486 greatly facilitates

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread D-Man
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 06:34:06PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: | also sprach D-Man (on Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:25:35PM -0400): | > We certainly can do something : use (and develop) Debian while | > boycotting proprietary hardware. Microsoft can't charge us rent for | > using Debian :-). | | word

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread D-Man
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 06:30:59PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: | also sprach User zos (on Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:19:26PM -0400): | | ps: at least i just posted a total micro$oft rant to | microsoft.public.win98.comm.modem and that made me feel a whole lot | better. :-> Ooh, I'll have to dig up a

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread User zos
Just you wait. One dayone dayyou won't be able to find your precious drives and you'll be wandering around like the Gollum going "Where is my PRECIOUS?!" and then you'll be coughing up $25 to HP :) At least food cheers me up. Man I need a cigarette. Someone attach one via e-mail pleas

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Hall Stevenson
> Does this mean that one day you will *rent* the > drivers from HP for a few months or so and then > have to rent them again if you need to reinstall? > Can't we do something about this? Personally, I'd make a backup copy of the file(s) to cdrom, floppy, another PC, etc, etc. Hall

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach D-Man (on Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:25:35PM -0400): > We certainly can do something : use (and develop) Debian while > boycotting proprietary hardware. Microsoft can't charge us rent for > using Debian :-). word up. but i am less concerned about us since we already do good. i am concerned

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach User zos (on Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:19:26PM -0400): > I had the same problem with getting drivers for an HP printer once. I find > it totally absurd that you pay to buy a printer (or a computer) from a > company and when you lose the driver disk you have to literally BUY > another one from

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread D-Man
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 12:19:26PM -0400, User zos wrote: | I had the same problem with getting drivers for an HP printer once. I find | it totally absurd that you pay to buy a printer (or a computer) from a | company and when you lose the driver disk you have to literally BUY | another one from th

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread User zos
new look, new ftp: > linux.dyn.dhs.org (change FOUR letter) > upload something before downloading, or your class C IP banned. > - Original Message - > From: "Martin F. Krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "debian users" > Sent: Tuesday, July

Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Lamer
AIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian users" Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners > hi all, > please forgive this post, i am at the end of my wisdom, and HP prove > to be dorks on all counts again. This has nothing to do with this > li

[OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners

2001-07-03 Thread Martin F. Krafft
hi all, please forgive this post, i am at the end of my wisdom, and HP prove to be dorks on all counts again. This has nothing to do with this list, but i spent a solid week now on the net and in touch with other people, trying to get help at no success. i figure that there's got to be some people