Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-28 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"will" == will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: will> On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:41:38PM -0800, Paul Johnson will> wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:45:21AM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor >> wrote: > man update-rc.d >> >> No, wrong. Just rename the file. update-rc.d

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-27 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:41:38PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:45:21AM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > > man update-rc.d > > No, wrong. Just rename the file. update-rc.d is used for script > automation. it's not "wrong". in fact it's more likely to result in a stab

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > "David" == David Z Maze writes: > > David> "Jeff Hahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of > >> several redhat boxes) > > >> One quick question to get me going a little b

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 20:29, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Every Redhat user asks about chkconfig. Having used Redhat myself I > > [...] > > installing a new package. But on Debian none of that is needed. Not > > Note, though, a mid-sized gotcha: all (well, almost all) the symlink

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Shyamal Prasad wrote: > There is a common misconception that files in /etc/rc?.d/ must only be > handled via update-rc.d. I'm not sure where that comes from but a > *lot* of people make that assumption. It is a requirement for package postinst scripts, not for users. But for package scripts they

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:09:29AM -0600, Jeff Hahn wrote: > I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of several > redhat boxes) > > I'm having a few problems dealing with the distribution differences. I > assume I'll be able to work those out. > > One quick question to get me

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kent> Ron Johnson wrote: >> The Unix Way [to disable automatic starting of init scripts] is >> to rename S20apache to K20apache. That way, you can see what's >> been explicitly turned off, and you'll know that if it's not in

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Jeff Hahn
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Kent West wrote: > How about renaming S20apache to NOS20apache? This way, you can see at a > glance which scripts are start scripts, which are kill scripts, and > which are scripts that have been disabled by the sysadmin, as opposed to > wondering which of the K scripts we

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 20:29, Bob Proulx wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > Jeff Hahn wrote: > > > > >I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of several > > >redhat boxes) [snip] > Every Redhat user asks about chkconfig. Having used Redhat myself I > always needed to edit the init.d

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 12:57, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >The Unix Way [to disable automatic starting of init scripts] is to rename > >S20apache to K20apache. That way, you can > >see what's been explicitly turned off, and you'll know that if it's > >not in /etc/rc2.d/ then it hasn

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:45:21AM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > man update-rc.d No, wrong. Just rename the file. update-rc.d is used for script automation. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to d

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: The Unix Way [to disable automatic starting of init scripts] is to rename S20apache to K20apache. That way, you can see what's been explicitly turned off, and you'll know that if it's not in /etc/rc2.d/ then it hasn't been installed. Remeber to also rename /etc/rc6.d/K??apach

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Ron" == Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ron> On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 18:24, Shyamal Prasad wrote: >> "David" == David Z Maze writes: David> Probably the easiest way is to 'rm /etc/rc2.d/S20apache', David> etc. as root. >> IMHO this is almost the Debian Way to do

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:09:29AM -0600, Jeff Hahn wrote: > One quick question to get me going a little better... How do you install > services (apache, samba, whatever) and NOT have them start on system > startup? Go into /etc/rc?.d/ (where ? is a number, 2 is the default runlevel) and look aro

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 18:24, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > "David" == David Z Maze writes: > > David> "Jeff Hahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of > >> several redhat boxes) > > >> One quick question to get me going a l

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Kent West wrote: > Jeff Hahn wrote: > > >I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of several > >redhat boxes) There are many differences. In many ways you will find it frustrating because some details being different will take some time to figure out. But let me encourage you

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"David" == David Z Maze writes: David> "Jeff Hahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of >> several redhat boxes) >> One quick question to get me going a little better... How do >> you install services (apache, samb

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Kent West
Jeff Hahn wrote: I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of several redhat boxes) I'm having a few problems dealing with the distribution differences. I assume I'll be able to work those out. One quick question to get me going a little better... How do you install services

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Seneca
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:09:29AM -0600, Jeff Hahn wrote: > > One quick question to get me going a little better... How do you install > services (apache, samba, whatever) and NOT have them start on system > startup? > > In RedHat, this is done with chkconfig. I've got a number of services > i

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
man update-rc.d Quoting Jeff Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of several > redhat boxes) > > I'm having a few problems dealing with the distribution differences. I > assume I'll be able to work those out. > > One quick question to get me go

Re: "debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread David Z Maze
"Jeff Hahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of several > redhat boxes) > One quick question to get me going a little better... How do you install > services (apache, samba, whatever) and NOT have them start on system > startup? Probably t

"debian rookie" trying to get his bearings...

2003-01-25 Thread Jeff Hahn
I'm setting up a "test" debian server (contemplating a move of several redhat boxes) I'm having a few problems dealing with the distribution differences. I assume I'll be able to work those out. One quick question to get me going a little better... How do you install services (apache, samba, wh