fwupdmgr refresh → "Host unreachable" - polkkitd issue? (Debian 13)

2025-07-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On an install of the RC of the forthcoming Debian 13, I just installed fwupd. I now go to refresh its database and get: $ sudo fwupdmgr refresh Updating lvfs Failed to download metadata for lvfs: network is unreachable: Host unreachable I am not aware of any reason why this host would have l

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

2025-07-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:18:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 17 Jul 2025 at 12:42:29 (+0200), Flo wrote: > > but booting is only possible over the BIOS menu. > > Like John Doe, no idea what this means. I took it to mean that OP sees a firmware message like "F11 to see boot options"

Re: Debian default mailer choice

2025-07-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:54:58PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Why does Debian default to installing Exim4? Just historical reasons I think: No great mystery, just that a choice had to be made and that was the choice that was made. Personally I haven't been too thrilled with Exim's securi

Re: problem installing trixie - no EFI

2025-07-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:42:29PM +0200, Flo wrote: > For me it looks like that the installer thinks that I am on a non EFI > system? > > Any ideas? Yes, it isn't actually booting in EFI mode. I don't think this will be an issue with Debian because by the time the Debian installer runs the

Re: would like to do install from local mirror

2025-07-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 07:51:54PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > what would be the easiest way to do an install from my local mirror > would getting a copy of netinst.iso and modify it be practical I typically use the netinstall and unless you set it to be fully automated it does as

Re: SDD partitioning and allocations

2025-07-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 04:31:08PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-12, Andy Smith wrote: > > But for brand new devices I don't care what was on it before. > > > > You can construct a hypothetical situation where: > > > > 1. I buy a new storage device

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 11:27:46AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-07-12): > > The thrust of the OP seems to be directed towards the *majority* of > > *new* users, who ain't gonna be using Gnus to read this mailing list, > > please get real. > > So, you would have a webforum with

Re: netinst amd64 or i386 for Dell Vostro 200?

2025-07-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 08:39:32AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Does Debian amd64 run on the Vostro 200, or must I use i386? If you install Debian 12 i386 you will be stuck at that version forever as Debian 13 (which will be released in a month or two) will not support i386 kernel or ins

Re: SDD partitioning and allocations

2025-07-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 03:38:11PM +0200, Me wrote: > On 2025-07-12 15:19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Why do you recommend that? Are you assuming the SSDs songbird got are > > used, or do you recommend that even for new SSDs -- if so, why? > Not the OP, but you never know what's on the d

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 06:52:42PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Zulip? > Discourse? > Lemmy? > > Ideally, such a thing would have good&nice bridges to&from email, but in > practice I don't know any that have such bridges (some have no such > bridge, while other have such bridges but they do

Re: Mount permissions weired

2025-07-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 07:29:15PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > The ownership of the underlying mount point is ignored (and should > > generally be set to root:root mode 755 to avoid possible complications > > in odd cases). You need to chown the directory *after* it is mounted. > > This is not, wh

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:58:04AM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > Andy Smith writes: > > I think it's worth considering the fact that new computer users are > > increasingly less likely to use email and are more likely to find email > > intimidating. > > Do you

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 02:59:33PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I don't think removing email workflows (which implies removing mailing > lists) is wise. > > Debian can support new ways to participate, like Social Media and > Chat, for Gen-Z. However, I don't believe it is an either/or > pro

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 04:57:43PM +0100, Joe wrote: > OK, but take it further: these people who are not using email, are > they actually likely to use a real computer for anything at all other > than playing games? Their communication will be carried out using the > mobile phone permanently g

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50:41PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 10/7/25 23:10, Andy Smith wrote: > > I'm telling you how things are > > Those are the words that are problematic - "I am the absolute authority and > the absolute expert regarding what is happenin

sudo-rs (Was Re: Bugs?)

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I concur with others that it sounds like you simply don't have sudo installed. As an aside, sudo-rs is packaged as of Debian 13 (trixie, currently testing) and I've been using it for a week now without complaints. sudo fans might like to give it a go. It replicates the functionality and conf

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 04:25:56PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 03:19:40PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 02:32:53PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > > The likes of facebook are steering people away from email as they

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 04:00:09PM +0100, Joe wrote: > And are new computer users not pretty much compelled to set up a > Microsoft email address? It's getting more difficult to avoid. > Certainly a mobile phone user will be required to have an email address. I think today's computer users re

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 02:32:53PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > The likes of facebook are steering people away from email as they want > to keep all interaction within their eco system - email is something > that lets people escape from them. I would dispute your claim that email is the

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 09:44:05AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > What "trend"? That kids don't use (or perhaps understand) stuff they've > had no real *need* of yet? The trend that people increasingly do not use email as a means of collaboration. I'm sorry if that is unwelcome to you, but it's

Re: SDD partitioning and allocations

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 08:58:10AM -0400, songbird wrote: > Dan Purgert wrote: > > Longterm (powered-off) backup is actually better on spinning rust; as > > SSD are somewhat more susceptible to bit-rot when powered off. > > these will always be regularly powered on even if they are > not mo

Re: SDD partitioning and allocations

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 07:07:03AM -0400, songbird wrote: > in previous years I recall that there was some recommendation to leave > some part of the SSD unallocated and not formatted as part of a file > system so any parts that failed as bad blocks or wore out could be > allocated from these

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

2025-07-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 08:48:18AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > To make it REALLY clear - anybody and everybody is welcome here: if they > need us to answer questions that should be fine. I think it's worth considering the fact that new computer users are increasingly less likely to use

Re: Linux machine hit by ransomware

2025-07-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 02:00:15PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > I t seems something is opening every file in my Media share: The thing is that something like Kodi will be scanning through all the files it has access to in order to update its media library, for example, as an intended part o

Re: Linux machine hit by ransomware

2025-07-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 07:17:25AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 07:17:36AM +0200, john doe wrote: > > In this case, a perimeter firewall will not help. > > > > You likely got compromised by downloading something from the internet or > > via e-mail. > > That is unlike

Re: Using MUAs to bounce mail (was: Please, don't reply to spam ...)

2025-06-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 11:55:56AM +0200, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > I absolutely love bouncing mails in mutt instead of forwarding. I need > some mail on the address I use on my mobile: Just bounce it. I only do > this to my own mail addresses. > > Am I alone in this use case of bounces? Or is

Re: Resolved: SystemD ProtectSystem=full still can write File in /etc outside of WorkingDir or WritePath

2025-06-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 02:29:05PM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > systemctl cat openvpn@ > # [Service] > # Type=notify > # PrivateTmp=true > # WorkingDirectory=/etc/openvpn > # ExecStart=/usr/sbin/openvpn --daemon ovpn-%i --status > /run/openvpn/%i.status 10 --cd /etc/openvpn --config /etc/ope

Re: SystemD ProtectSystem=full still can write File in /etc outside of WorkingDir or WritePath

2025-06-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:33:02AM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > ProtectSystem=full should be read-only /etc > what is the point of this settig if the process still can write there? The "full" setting is indeed meant to keep the whole filesystem read-only for that service, except /dev, /proc,

Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:21PM +0200, 🦓 wrote: > if that is so safe, then i would just suggest a stable > file:/etc/apt/sources.list.d/stable.list simply specifying > deb http://deb.debian.org/ stable main > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/ stable main Congratulations, you just told people

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 01:23:13PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the specific case of /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, the man page is > pretty explicit: > > Note that the Debian openssh-server package sets several options as stan‐ > dard in /etc/ssh/sshd_config which are not the default

Re: disk cache

2025-06-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 03:26:36AM +, xuser wrote: > Yes, i know but linux keeps locking up as soon as the cache has used most of > the memory It sounds like you have some process using too much memory, or you have faulty hardware. It should not behave like that unless there is something

Re: Question about letsencrypt certs

2025-06-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 05:01:33PM +0800, Y Peng wrote: > after deploying this server to the production environment, it is > subject to strict network isolation and cannot access the internet. > Will the Let's Encrypt certificate remain valid for a long time if it > cannot access the internet?

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 09:34:33AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2025-06-09 16:24:41 +0200, Thomas Hochstein wrote: > > | thh@angmar:~$ grep RCVD_IN_VALIDITY > > /var/lib/spamassassin/4.01/updates_spamassassin_org/50_scores.cf > > | score RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED 0 > > | score RCVD

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 08:03:58AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 01:18:37AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? > > I think so. I think the general expectation of spamassassin is that you > use a

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 01:18:37AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? I think so. I think the general expectation of spamassassin is that you use a release for a long time. > The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, bu

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Andy Smith
It's bad enough that this small group of selfish people feel that the rest of us and the archives needs tens of messages of them debating relativity with each other, but… On Sat, Jun 07, 2025 at 10:55:20PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Considering that shot has killed well over a million to date …

Re: tbird problem

2025-06-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 08:26:01PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > gene@coyote:~$ env | grep XDG_ > XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/home/gene/.config/kdedefaults:/etc/xdg:/usr/share/desktop-base/kf5-settings > XDG_SEAT=seat0 > XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=plasma > XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11 > XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE I'm glad

Re: tbird problem

2025-06-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jun 07, 2025 at 06:03:59AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > This has been mentioned before - you have not explained why you have not > tried it. > > Someone even did the google search for you, and, posted the link. > > I do not know how far you expect people to go, to do for you what you n

Re: tbird problem

2025-06-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 04:09:57PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/6/25 15:27, Dan Ritter wrote: > > You may be running Wayland instead of X. > Afirmative according to synaptic which won't run on wayland w/o the magic in > the menu's. Let's have some facts then. Please show us the output of

Re: Installation of Debian 12 on ThinkPadX1 Carbon Generation 12

2025-06-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 03:10:02PM -0700, rgta8478jo96 wrote: > I have recently installed Debian 12 on the band new ThikPadX1 Generation > > 12 laptop. I am going to assume you mean the 10th generation X1 Carbon since that is the newest one of that line. Please can you check and confirm if t

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

2025-05-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 08:46:37PM -0700, accipiter wrote: > In the past it was the old standard /etc/network/interfaces setup. I had > commented-out all the lines associated with 'eth0', but it's possible > there's something that I haven't adequately killed off. Is > there some way to ensur

Re: EFI system partition

2025-05-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 03:31:03PM +0200, Tommy Berglund wrote: > Is it possible to add an EFI system partition to a server already > running Debian 12? The other reply you got covers making an ESP partition, but your main problem is going to be that you also need to install grub in EFI mode

Re: What file does Linux use to...

2025-05-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 04:39:56PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-05-19, David Christensen wrote: > > When posting to a mailing list, the Subject line is crucial. Yours is > > No, it is not, and it should not contain essential information because > hardly anyone ever gives it more than a rap

Re: Repair or Replace

2025-05-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 08:42:08PM -0500, Titus Newswanger wrote: > I recall seeing something similar, where I thought boot didn't complete, > then discovered if I tap the 'enter' key, the login prompt appeared. I > wasn't sure what caused that behavior, my guess is there may have been some >

Re: Repair or Replace

2025-05-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 06:20:33PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote: > After a year in storage, I'm trying to get a version 11 system back online. > I connected it to power and network, then booted it. Interestingly, it > appeared on my network not at the address it had when it went into storage, >

Checking for a mount in a shell script (Was: Re: Preparing for Debian 13)

2025-05-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Since I know almost no shell scripting, the rsync usb drive A  > to usb drive B copy is done with a simple bash script consisting > only of the rsync backup command, with options and parameters, but > without any code to verify t

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:56:11PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Concerning the points raised: I still did not see any statement of which concrete problems or issues you did actually want to tackle. For example it is a waste of time people giving advice about the upgrade route if you have deci

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:50:41AM +0100, Richmond wrote: > /var can grow significantly over time due to logs, databases, and other > persistent services, so I can understand why someone might put it on its > own partition. When we're talking about single user workstations and laptops though,

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 04:37:08PM -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:44:09 PM -03 Thomas Dineen wrote: > > This thread is a waist of time! > > > Thank you very much! I added this to my collection of sayings. Some people just like to explore the pant leg less travelled

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 10:01:18PM +0200, Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Is it possible to install Debian on a VERY VERY OLD hardware? If so, what > "image" should I use? > > Hardware spec: > > CPU: Intel Celeron 400MHz > RAM: 32MB Since your 32M of RAM is below the minimum for the current install

Re: [SOLVED] Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

2025-05-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, May 04, 2025 at 08:03:39AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Thank you , David. My problem was a simple blunder, but your respose was > usefully informative. It would be helpful to say what the blunder was so that other people who find this thread by search later on may not be left wonde

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

2025-05-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 06:22:45AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a directory > under /media. Are you talking about the automatic mounting under /media of a user's removable media devices (USB keys etc) under a desktop environment,

Re: Missing shared library symbols… that don't seem to be missing

2025-04-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 08:59:13PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The library option (-lxenstat) has to appear *after* any objects that > use it. > > cc -Wall -o foo foo.c -lxenstat Ah, okay. My addition of -c was just coincidence then, and it was the reordering that fixed it. Thanks! Andy

Re: Missing shared library symbols… that don't seem to be missing

2025-04-28 Thread Andy Smith
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 12:44:59AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > What am I doing wrong here? It's been a couple of years and perhaps this > part of my brain has dissolved. Yes, it was just a missing "-c" from the arguments. This works: $ cc -Wall -c foo.c -o foo -lxenstat Th

Missing shared library symbols… that don't seem to be missing

2025-04-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, What am I doing wrong here? It's been a couple of years and perhaps this part of my brain has dissolved. $ cat foo.c #include #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char **argv) { xenstat_handle *xhandle = NULL; xhandle = xenstat_init(); if (xhandle == NULL

Re: Not able to ping other pcs in LAN.

2025-04-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 10:09:34AM -0400, Eben King wrote: > On 4/27/25 09:57, mailinglists.accustom...@aleeas.com wrote: > > ping: [hostname].local: Name or service not known. where [hostname] is a > > placeholder. > > Is [hostname].local in /etc/hosts or otherwise findable by DNS? Okay so

Re: Not able to ping other pcs in LAN.

2025-04-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 11:24:25AM +, mailinglists.accustom...@aleeas.com wrote: > my issue is before installing debian I was able to ping me other > machine using ```ping hostname.local```, but after installing debian > 12 I am not able to do that. Nowhere in your email have you shown t

Re: In cross install, cannot mount fstabe

2025-04-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, > On Tue, 22 Apr 2025, Haines Brown wrote: > > I try as you sugggest abd run within chroot. But this is what > > I get:? > > > > /# mount -o bind /sys/ /mnt/debinst/sys > > mount: /mnt/debinst/sys: mount point does not exist. > >dmesg(1) may have more information after failed

Re: In cross install, cannot mount fstab

2025-04-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 06:23:05AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > the UUIDs are copied and pasted from # blkid and so should be without > error. Can you show us the output of blkid? > I did the chroot command again (while in chroot) nd it reported an error: chroot from inside a chroot is ob

Re: Starting Apache Webserver in bookworm

2025-04-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 10:03:58AM +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote: > after upgrading a computer from Debian 11 to Debian 12, I am unable to > start apache2 by systemd. Always check: # systemctl status apache2 # apachectl configtest # journalctl -u apache2 and the contents of apache2's own er

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 09:39:53AM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > sometimes, yes, I think [VPNs] are overblown compared to a "simple" > ssh server. I think that a decent modern VPN solution is much simpler than OpenSSH and especially when your alternative is recompiling OpenSSH to remove depen

Re: Limiting attack surface for Debian sshd

2025-04-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 08:12:14PM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > systemd dependancies that are activated on a Debian system imply a lot > of library injections into sshd, much more than the stock OpenBSD ssh. > > To avoid this, there seem to be two approaches: > >- remove those dependanc

Re: Debian

2025-04-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 04:50:01PM +0200, Rafał Grzywacz wrote: > Hello, I'm using a netgear readynas duo v2 nas server running linux debian > squeeze 6.0.3, when I try to install packages is E:... e.g. > # sudo apt-get install curl > E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libc6'. Pl

Re: map mainboard sata connector to device name

2025-04-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 05:42:43AM +0200, Petric Frank wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2025, 00:13:10 CEST schrieb Andy Smith: > > You have yet to explain why block device serial numbers > > (/dev/disk/by-id/) and filesystem UUIDs (/dev/disk/by-uuid/) are not > > su

Re: map mainboard sata connector to device name

2025-04-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 05:46:32PM +0200, Petric Frank wrote: > In this case i have to manually create a mapping from pci-id (of the > controller) together with the "ata-x" to the sata connection number > printed on the motherboard. Based on the mapping udev rules are to be > created to get de

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 11:59:23AM -0700, Fred wrote: > One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP has > solved the problem Do you understand that Max and I are saying that the way the web UI for gmail and other large mailbox providers works is that as soon as you

Beware of Pocket's off-list goading (Was Re: DHCP and static addresses)

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 09:48:32AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > Congrats? What point are you trying to make? Pocket also contacted me. As neither of those emails reached the list I assume they have been banned and are trying to goad people in to group-reply back onto the list for them. Thank

Re: IPv6 and loopback addresses (was Re: DHCP and static addresses)

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:21:45AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 4/3/25 13:39, Andy Smith wrote: > > Historically we do not get very far here when talking about IPv6 with > > Gene. > True Andy, but there's no ipv6 within 100 miles of me. The Linux kernel comes with

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 10:22:47AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I am neutral to this recommendations. Just some considerations... > > I rarely use Gmail web UI, but this time I was curious enough to check its > behavior. As I keep pointing out, and you have covered again here, any change of s

IPv6 and loopback addresses (was Re: DHCP and static addresses)

2025-04-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 01:28:43PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-04-03, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Indeed, the entirety of 127.0.0.0/8 is the virtual loopback adapter > > (i.e. "localhost"). > > I thought IPV6 opened up the flood gates of assigning "real" ip > addresses In IPv6 you still need lo

Re: Who: Bookworm v. Trixie

2025-03-31 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:19:30AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 3/31/25 05:10, Andy Smith wrote: > > Here is the bug report you quoted but did not read: > > > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1080330 > > > > I've read

Re: Who: Bookworm v. Trixie

2025-03-31 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 03:36:20AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 3/31/25 02:09, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > I believe /run/utmp is gone in trixie, after systemd was upgraded to > > 256.5-2. The command `w` still works fine. > no, its dns lookup fails there also. This conversation is about the

Re: Journalctl and offline boot disk drive

2025-03-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 04:32:55PM +1100, George Kirkham wrote: > Now with Journalctl, is it still possible to connect the failed-to-boot disk > drive to another computer and read logs?  How? You got an answer regarding reading systemd journal in another directory, but… For there to be any p

Email threading (was Re: Frequent freezing around login screens)

2025-03-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 08:51:48PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > The complete algorithm is here: > > https://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html > > and is implemented in every good email client: there are no good > email clients which don't use it. It's a prerequisite to being > considered "good".

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:38:02PM +1030, Mal wrote: > Without the conf package, I still don't get why it populated only one > ipv4 nameserver target and ignored the ipv6 target. Are you sure this is not just what the installation process did? Without "resolvconf" the /etc/resolv.conf file i

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers#

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 03:24:24PM -, Greg wrote: > I wonder humorously if this discussion might devolve into yet another > gargantuan thread concerning resolv.conf and whether it's kosher to set > the immutable bit on that file in order to prevent whatever the heck is > writing to it fro

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers#

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:11:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 13:06:54 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Without "resolvconf" the /etc/resolv.conf file is just a static file so > > there's limited things that would be editing it. Th

Re: ipv6 dns-nameservers

2025-03-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 02:34:13PM +1030, Mal wrote: > On Debian 6.1.129-1, I have a static network interface conf (no Netplan) > with both IPv4 & IPv6 addressing and Name-servers set. I don't know why only your IPv4 address is making it into resolv.conf, but if the network setup is static th

Re: array suggestions

2025-03-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 03:32:39PM -0400, Eben King wrote: > I need to do something that ends up with a larger array using 3, maybe > 4 disks. It'd be nice if it supports disks of disparate sizes (and > actually uses the extra space), so I can upgrade by attrition. It depends on how wedded y

Re: [SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 04:34:48PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 16:24:15 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: > > >> Seems we've been through this before in 2022 (sorry that it's > > >> Google Groups which I thought was defunct but anyway): > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/linux.d

Re: increment backup of home dir

2025-03-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 01:18:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 3/15/25 12:50, Tim Woodall wrote: > > git fails to preserve ownership, permissions or timestamps. While this > > may not be relevant to your usecase, for example backing up /etc would > > be catastrophic (which is why we h

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-03-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 05:43:32PM -, Greg wrote: > Why wouldn't Debian's Firefox sell or share user data whereas a > non-Debian package or binary might or would, according to the vague > legalese of the new EULA? If Debian users are not bound, by what > method or procedure are they exempt

Re: TEMORARY workaround - was [Re: How to associate a file extension with preferred executable]

2025-03-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 12:21:43PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I do not believe using xdg-mime is a *legitimate" technique in this > instance. It wasn't used to *cause* the problem. It *shouldn't* be used to > supposedly "solve" the problem. You don't know that. As Marco already explained,

Re: Trixie i686

2025-03-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 10:38:14AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Is it already known whether Trixie will support i686 or not? Yes, there have not been kernels or installers built for it for some time. > https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/issues.en.html > says it supports i686

Re: Problem with /var

2025-03-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 09:33:40PM -0500, Maureen Thomas wrote: > This is what I got > > root@debian:/home/maureen# apt-get clean You didn't show us the "df" output before you did this so we don't know how much, if anything, it freed up. > root@debian:/home/maureen# cd /var > > root@debian

Re: Problem with /var

2025-03-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 09:24:20PM -0500, Maureen Thomas wrote: > There are 15 files in Var and the biggest one is the cache file. Is it safe > to get rid of the contents of the whole file.  It takes up  57% of the > drive. Do not go deleting files in /var; you don't know enough about their p

Re: web browser recommendation

2025-03-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 12:32:33PM -0500, songbird wrote: > i currently use firefox and have mostly been ok with it. > > would like to try something else. As far as I'm aware every alternative to Firefox is one or more of: - Chromium, so strictly worse - Based on Chromium, so strictly

Re: Mailing list in nomail

2025-03-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 01:49:31PM +, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote: > > (original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20) > > is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain > > subscribed but to not receive anymore messages? > > W

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:16:23PM +0530, Sarbjit Singh Sandhu wrote: > Dear Debian Developers, You have addressed your email to debian-user. Here we are all just users of Debian like you. We cannot make changes to the policies of the Debian project directly. If you wanted to discuss your id

Re: where does the this file belong on a debian 12uptodateamd64system?

2025-03-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 09:49:30AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Now I wait for trixie in thhe hope that I can convince it to NOT > install brltty and orca just because the ONLY usb socket is occupied > by a logitek wireless mouse button. They are not removable/purgeable > w/o screwing up the s

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

2025-03-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Steven Speek wrote: > I would like this feature in apt-get. Since this is just a mailing list of Debian users, no one here is empowered to do what you ask. The proper procedure would be to report it as a wishlist bug on apt-get in the Debian bug trac

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250301)

2025-03-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 12:18:36AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > [SOLVED] "Can't configure network on Debian - please advise" > > would make it a lot easier to find answers on some of the longer > threads concerning problems. As ever, opinions may vary and i'd like > to know what others f

Re: Hardware question

2025-03-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 02:24:04PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > The NVidia kernel module is built by running a bash script. It's not a > .deb package. > > Will it still be automatigically rebuilt? If it's a DKMS, which is what my nvidia driver is, then it will try to be built for any kernel in

Re: Hardware question

2025-02-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 11:27:40AM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > What's "mce?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-check_exception > "apt update" says everything is up to date, but the kernel is 6.1.0-18. > I believe there are several newer ones, maybe up to 6.1.0-31? You can try a kernel fr

Re: Best terminology to distiguish groups such as "debian-user" from webmail whatevers

2025-02-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group. > The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around > webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. > I find t

Re: Why do I never see /var/run/reboot-required ?

2025-02-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 10:35:08PM +0100, Christian Jaeger wrote: > According to various online sources, packages are expected to create > the file `/var/run/reboot-required` if they wish that the system > reboots. See this thread for answers: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/02

Re: Spamassassin generating DNSBL blocks

2025-02-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 06:59:14PM -0600, Greg Marks wrote: >spamd: check: dns_block_rule RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED hit, creating > /root/.spamassassin/dnsblock_list.dnswl.org (This means DNSBL blocked you due > to too many queries. Set all affected rules score to 0, or use > "dns_query_res

Re: fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 10:11:59AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > What would I do with 2 more identical drives doomed to go away as soon as > the helium leaves? The magnets could augment a tin foil hat up to a whole new level of safety; may even make the use of red SATA cables viable. Thanks,

Re: The impact of removing rsyslog from Trixie

2025-02-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:01:43AM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 2/17/25 à 22:52, Dan Ritter a écrit : > > fail2ban > > Logcheck could also potentially be impacted, > it reads from syslog an auth.log by default, The manual pages are right there on your system and on https://manpages.de

Re: The impact of removing rsyslog from Trixie

2025-02-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 04:43:49PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > It is not removed indeed, > only not installed by default. …and also that already happened in Debian 12… > The signal I got is an encouragement to abandon rsyslog which is > redundant to journalctl. Several syslog daemons a

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