RE: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-31 Thread gwmfms6
On 2017-05-30 12:40, Emanuele Bernardi wrote: My system has en_US.utf8 for default, but I wanted the iso time so I just added the it_IT.utf8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales) and changed in gnome Region & Language the Formats. And what do you do when you need the Paper format, currency, numeric sy

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-30 Thread gwmfms6
On 2017-05-30 08:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: Perhaps a GNOME-specific mailing list might have more options for you. Maybe there's some way to tell GNOME not to touch the locale settings *at all*, and simply let them pass through from the underlying operating system. Yes, I have switched to taki

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-27 Thread gwmfms6
On 2017-05-27 11:39, Nicolas George wrote: L'octidi 8 prairial, an CCXXV, gwmf...@openmailbox.org a écrit : A lot of Europe does it, and it is wrong! It goes back quite a while to when it was fashionable to use a dot (.) as a symbol for multiplication. So Europe stopped using a dot to signal a

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-27 Thread gwmfms6
On 2017-05-27 10:49, Frank wrote: Op 27-05-17 om 14:33 schreef gwmf...@openmailbox.org: Denmark does LC_NUMERIC wrong (using a comma where there should be a decimal point). Really? When did Denmark start using a decimal point instead of a comma? Regards, Frank A lot of Europe does it, and i

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-27 Thread gwmfms6
On 2017-05-27 10:20, Curt wrote: On 2017-05-27, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote: This definitely explains the problem (Thanks for contributing!), but I don't think it's a real solution because changing the Gnome region like described (although it does change LC_TIME) changes other variables (i

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-27 Thread gwmfms6
This definitely explains the problem (Thanks for contributing!), but I don't think it's a real solution because changing the Gnome region like described (although it does change LC_TIME) changes other variables (in addition to LC_TIME) that make no sense for the United States (eg., LC_NUMERIC,

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-26 Thread gwmfms6
You are correct. typing locale in the virtual (text) console produces LC_TIME=en_DK. So GNOME is overriding PAM's environment. Thank you so much for helping me discover this! I learned a lot in the process. On 2017-05-26 13:01, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:54:24PM -0400, gw

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-26 Thread gwmfms6
A virtual console (eg, Ctrl+Alt+F2) produces the correct result when I type ncal. But if I type ncal in gnome-terminal, it starts the weeks with Sunday (which is wrong). GNOME problem, right? That's why /etc/default/locale isn't working how I expected? On 2017-05-26 12:54, gwmf...@openmailbo

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-26 Thread gwmfms6
I neglected to say my environment. Sorry! I am on GNOME and login via GDM. I do not use SSH and it says connection refused when I try. when I open a virtual console, and type ncal, the calendar begins with Monday--so this appears to be working. The problem is with GNOME, then? I suppose Debi

Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-26 Thread gwmfms6
I did #1 and #2 before posting here, before putting LC_TIME at /etc/default/locale. I reconfirmed that it is as you say it should be when running locale -a. Here is what locale reports after I log back in: ~/Desktop $ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf

How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

2017-05-26 Thread gwmfms6
This wiki is apparently out of date because it does not work: https://wiki.debian.org/Locale#First_day_of_week I have the system default set to en_US.utf8. But I need sensical dates and times (and en_US.utf8 uses nonsensical date & time format). How can I set my Debian 8 stable to use en_DK.u