Suggestion about file permissions being listed in debian packages

2009-01-01 Thread grok
ould be that the info in the .list file would be wrong -- itself a symptom of a bad install, etc. Does this make sense? It seems to make quite a lot of sense to me -- and IMO would make a lot of sense to a lot of confused, frustrated people as well. - -- grok.

Re: I/O Wait and CPU Usage

2007-05-12 Thread Grok Mogger
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:43:50PM -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: I have a question about the "wa" fields in vmstat, top, and the like. I and someone else I know have both read a great deal about its meaning, and have come to two different conclusions. He

I/O Wait and CPU Usage

2007-05-11 Thread Grok Mogger
I have a question about the "wa" fields in vmstat, top, and the like. I and someone else I know have both read a great deal about its meaning, and have come to two different conclusions. Here are our interpretations. Could someone please tell me which interpretation is right? Thanks! Int

Re: Xen and PAE

2007-05-01 Thread Grok Mogger
Bernard wrote: Hello Grok, I finally managed to start my DomU. The main problem I had was the concept that the kernel running in the DomU is the same has the on found in /boot of Dom0. Here "found" means not only the version but also the physical location. I tried many times

Re: Xen and PAE

2007-04-26 Thread Grok Mogger
Bernard wrote: On 4/23/07, Grok Mogger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bernard wrote: > Hi, > > I need a kernel to install in guest systems in Xen. This kernel > should NOT have the PAE option enable while the kernel was compiled. > Does someone can tell me if all the kernels

Re: Xen and PAE

2007-04-23 Thread Grok Mogger
Bernard wrote: Hi, I need a kernel to install in guest systems in Xen. This kernel should NOT have the PAE option enable while the kernel was compiled. Does someone can tell me if all the kernels in Etch are compiled with this option enabled? Should I recompile a kernel for my guest systems or

Xen Upgrade to 32-bit PAE on Etch: Advice Please

2007-04-17 Thread Grok Mogger
Hey, I am currently running the 32-bit non-PAE version of Xen on Debian Etch. I installed all this with the Xen packages via aptitude. I want to upgrade to the 32-bit PAE enabled version of Xen. I think this *should* be as easy as "aptitude install xen-hypervisor-3.0.3-1-i386-pae" foll

Re: Netgear WPN311 Wireless G problems

2007-04-14 Thread Grok Mogger
I just felt like "closing" this thread. I had a Netgear WPN311 Wireless G PCI Card. (It actually said "WPN311NA" in one place on the box, but whatever) The chipset was identified via lspci as an Atheros 5212. I tried using the Madwifi drivers (0.9.3 stable release) which should supposedly

Re: Netgear WPN311 Wireless G problems

2007-04-11 Thread Grok Mogger
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 19:41:22 -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [ short summary: The card is recognized as ath0 with wireless extensions, but it does not associate with any access point, lists "Signal level: 0/94". This is on U

Re: Netgear WPN311 Wireless G problems

2007-04-10 Thread Grok Mogger
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 00:36:58 -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 11:37:03 -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: [...] Hey everyone, thanks a lot for the advice! I ended up getting a Netgear WPN311 Wireless G PCI card. Now I'm just t

Re: Netgear WPN311 Wireless G problems

2007-04-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 11:37:03 -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: [...] Hey everyone, thanks a lot for the advice! I ended up getting a Netgear WPN311 Wireless G PCI card. Now I'm just trying to get the darn thing working. Right now, I'm actually using t

Netgear WPN311 Madwifi WPA2 Configuration Help

2007-04-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Hey, I cannot get my wifi working at all. I have a Netgear WPN311. This is my first wifi experience on Linux, and between Madwifi, wpa_supplicant, network-manager, network-manager-gnome, wlanconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, /etc/network/interfaces/, /etc/default/wpa_supplicant, and god-knows-w

Re: Wireless G WPA2 PCI Card Suggestion Please

2007-04-09 Thread Grok Mogger
charles norwood wrote: On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 02:11 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:10:05 -0400 Grok Mogger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I'd like to get a Wireless PCI Card for my Linux system. I'd like it to support WPA2 and also be Wireless G.

Wireless G WPA2 PCI Card Suggestion Please

2007-04-07 Thread Grok Mogger
Hello, I'd like to get a Wireless PCI Card for my Linux system. I'd like it to support WPA2 and also be Wireless G. I am currently using Debian, but this is a new system, so I'm perfectly willing to switch to another distribution if necessary. I'm willing to try new things if it'll make

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Grok Mogger
Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 15:53, Grok Mogger wrote: I have read the cron manpage. I understand what cron mails and under what conditions it mails it, what I don't understand is HOW it mails it. I know that cron just sends the output of whatever script it run

Re: How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Grok Mogger
Miles Fidelman wrote: Grok Mogger wrote: I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real Internet email so instead of just getting mail on my unix accounts on my linux box (which I read via the '

How does Cron send email?

2007-02-21 Thread Grok Mogger
Hello, I was hoping someone could help me understand how cron magically sends email. My ultimate goal is to configure cron to send real Internet email so instead of just getting mail on my unix accounts on my linux box (which I read via the 'mail' command) I can get email at my gmail accoun

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:15:25AM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: Wait, so stable only gets security updates? What if there's a bug in a package, will it get a fix? And I guess just to finish off my questionnaire, do packages in stable ever get upgrades for addit

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: So, if you leave your sources.list with "testing" then after the release, you will continue to see package upgrades as things move from unstable to testing. If you use "etch" then when Etch becomes stable, you will only see security updates. Regards, -Roberto Wait

Re: handling non-native language spam

2007-02-13 Thread Grok Mogger
michael wrote: Hi. I was wondering what is a suitable way to handle non-native language spam? My native language is English and I'm using Evolution to get my email off IMAP and then it uses SpamAssassin to filter for junk. Are there S.A. plugins to test for non-native language spam? Would just cl

Re: VIA VT8237A Southbridge Advice

2007-02-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Nick Boyce wrote: Grok Mogger wrote: Also, I have to say this whole problem I've stumbled on to seems kind of silly to me in a way. I love Debian's approach to stability and security, but why not at least keep adding hardware support to the kernel as it becomes available? Seems lik

Re: VIA VT8237A Southbridge Advice

2007-02-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 11:35:23AM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: Hey everyone, I'm looking into building a new machine. As for the motherboard, I'm interested in an ASUS 'A8V-VM SE'. Unfortunately, in Googling I've seen people complain

Re: VIA VT8237A Southbridge Advice

2007-02-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Bruno Buys wrote: Grok Mogger wrote: Hey everyone, I'm looking into building a new machine. As for the motherboard, I'm interested in an ASUS 'A8V-VM SE'. Unfortunately, in Googling I've seen people complain about problems with the board's southbridge. It&

Re: AMD64 Kernel Image in Etch

2007-02-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Don Hayward wrote: On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Grok Mogger wrote: Wackojacko wrote: Grok Mogger wrote: Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get a new AMD Athlon 64 processor, and I'm a little concerned that I can't identify the proper linux-image package (planning on using etch). I

VIA VT8237A Southbridge Advice

2007-02-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Hey everyone, I'm looking into building a new machine. As for the motherboard, I'm interested in an ASUS 'A8V-VM SE'. Unfortunately, in Googling I've seen people complain about problems with the board's southbridge. It's a 'VIA VT8237A'. I went to kernel.org and started looking through the

Re: AMD64 Kernel Image in Etch

2007-02-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Wackojacko wrote: Grok Mogger wrote: Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get a new AMD Athlon 64 processor, and I'm a little concerned that I can't identify the proper linux-image package (planning on using etch). I do an "aptitude search linux-image" and look through wh

AMD64 Kernel Image in Etch

2007-02-09 Thread Grok Mogger
Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get a new AMD Athlon 64 processor, and I'm a little concerned that I can't identify the proper linux-image package (planning on using etch). I do an "aptitude search linux-image" and look through what comes up, but none of them look like the right one. I did a s

Re: ldap + pam howto?

2007-02-06 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:56:11AM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: So forget SASL and just send everything through an SSL tunnel? So you'd do something like this on the client... "ssh -L :LDAPServer:$LDAPServerPORT -N [EMAIL PROTECTED]", and then setup

Re: ldap + pam howto?

2007-02-06 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:22:40AM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: The LDAP client usually just sends all data (passwords included!) in the clear to the LDAP server. This is bad. SASL encrypts all the communication between the client and server. Right, but your

Re: howto build debian xen kernel?

2007-02-06 Thread Grok Mogger
Jonas Meurer wrote: On 06/02/2007 Grok Mogger wrote: I didn't find any documentation about that topic. All howtos/tutorials/... that talk about building a xen kernel, use the original xen kernel sources, not the debian kernel source with patches. You may have some need to compile you

Re: ldap + pam howto?

2007-02-06 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 05:04:48PM +, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: Hi, I am using Testing, and I want to setup the debian way an LDAP + pam authentication system for system users. Would you know a recent howto talking about that? I dont need generic howto, I am

Re: howto build debian xen kernel?

2007-02-05 Thread Grok Mogger
Jonas Meurer wrote: Hello, I just tried to build a debian xen kernel, based on linux-source-2.6.18, linux-patch-debian-2.6.18 and kernel-package. According to the docs i found, i can apply the debian kernel sources in the following way: resivo:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18$ ../kernel-patches/al

Re: SMTP server

2007-01-17 Thread Grok Mogger
Mihira Fernando wrote: On 1/17/07, Grok Mogger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hope no one minds if I hijack this thread. =) I just read through all the responses and was surprised to see three people using postfix, one using exim4, and none using sendmail. I've heard so much about se

Re: SMTP server

2007-01-16 Thread Grok Mogger
Hope no one minds if I hijack this thread. =) I just read through all the responses and was surprised to see three people using postfix, one using exim4, and none using sendmail. I've heard so much about sendmail that I thought it was the de facto standard. I considered exim4 "that other M

Re: Linux Drivers, The Kernel, and a Driver List

2007-01-13 Thread Grok Mogger
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:50:19 -0500 Grok Mogger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it safe to say that drivers are really for a chipset, not a device? And so therefore, support for a device really boils down to "is the chipset supported?" not "is the dev

Re: Linux Drivers, The Kernel, and a Driver List

2007-01-13 Thread Grok Mogger
Kevin Ross wrote: Here's a code snippet from ne2k-pci.c, the NE2000-clone NIC driver: static struct { char *name; int flags; } pci_clone_list[] __devinitdata = { {"RealTek RTL-8029", REALTEK_FDX}, {"Winbond 89C940", 0}, {"Compex RL2000", 0}, {"KTI ET32P2", 0}, {"NetVin NV5000SC", 0}, {

Re: Linux Drivers, The Kernel, and a Driver List

2007-01-13 Thread Grok Mogger
Kevin Mark writes: >> wizbang 1000 (chipset A) uses kernel module P wizbang 1000 (rev. 2, chipset B) uses kernel Q. > John Hasler wrote: They also sometimes have the chips labeled with their own labels so that somebody has to do some reverse engineering to find out what is really in there.

Re: Linux Drivers, The Kernel, and a Driver List

2007-01-12 Thread Grok Mogger
Thanks to everyone who's taken the time to respond. It's helped a lot. I'd still like some more help though if you can spare it. =) My goal is ultimately the following. I want to be able to say "I'm interested in getting a Super Device 4000" and then go through whatever steps I need to ve

Re: Linux Drivers, The Kernel, and a Driver List

2007-01-12 Thread Grok Mogger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:47:05PM -0500 Grok Mogger mumbled: Hey everyone, If I want to buy a new piece of hardware, and I want to figure out if it's supported or not (BEFORE I buy it), One good way is to take a knoppix disk to the 'puter store and boot

Linux Drivers, The Kernel, and a Driver List

2007-01-12 Thread Grok Mogger
Hey everyone, If the default kernel that comes with Debian has all these built in drivers and modules, then shouldn't there be some way to just get a list of every supported device? If I want to buy a new piece of hardware, and I want to figure out if it's supported or not (BEFORE I buy it),

Re: wireless adapter/card recommendations?

2007-01-09 Thread Grok Mogger
John C wrote: celejar wrote: On 1/9/07, John C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi folks, I'm in the process of changing my home network from wired to wireless and am trying to find a card for a desktop that will work effortlessly with etch/sid. Preferably one whose drivers are already available

Updating known_hosts SSH Keys

2007-01-08 Thread Grok Mogger
Hey, I was recently connecting from one host to another via ssh, and the remote host's host key had changed. I was expecting this change (I made it myself in fact), so naturally I just wanted to connect anyway, despite the warning that SSH gave me, and update my known_hosts file. I could n

Re: How do I upgrade my stock kernel via aptitude?

2006-12-19 Thread Grok Mogger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:59:34PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: Hmm interesting, I tried doing what you suggested, and didn't get a list of upgradeable packages. Which is what I expected, because I upgrade often and if I do an "aptitude upgrade"

Re: How do I upgrade my stock kernel via aptitude?

2006-12-18 Thread Grok Mogger
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:26:44PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: Hey everyone, I am running a 2.4.27 kernel that came with my sarge system, no fancy custom stuff. I recently got a Debian Security update telling me about these vulnerabilities in the 2.4 kernel, and so

How do I upgrade my stock kernel via aptitude?

2006-12-18 Thread Grok Mogger
Hey everyone, I am running a 2.4.27 kernel that came with my sarge system, no fancy custom stuff. I recently got a Debian Security update telling me about these vulnerabilities in the 2.4 kernel, and so naturally I'd like to upgrade to the 2.4.27-10 kernel. I'm imagining that since I'm just

Why Disable Root ssh login?

2006-12-14 Thread Grok Mogger
I've often seen this touted as a good security measure and I've always wondered why. I can think of a few possibilities, but I really don't know. Could someone please explain it to me? Thanks, - GM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / V

Re: Crontab Problem

2006-12-08 Thread Grok Mogger
Russell L. Harris wrote: * Grok Mogger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061207 21:39]: I tried doing something like this in the system wide crontab (/etc/crontab) and I was disappointed to find that it didn't work. It seems like the job just never ran at all. Can anyone tell me what might ha

Crontab Problem

2006-12-07 Thread Grok Mogger
I tried doing something like this in the system wide crontab (/etc/crontab) and I was disappointed to find that it didn't work. It seems like the job just never ran at all. Can anyone tell me what might have happened? (This is of course supposed to be on one line) 00 22 * * * root nice /som

Re: BIOS upgrade

2006-12-02 Thread Grok Mogger
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I need to upgrade my BIOS. Generally it seems to involve getting freedos and putting it on a floppy with the updates. Googling isn't clear on recent reports. Has anyone done this lately and specifically how? Thanks! Hugo Usually when I've upgraded a BIOS, th

Re: How can I verify hardware compatibility?

2006-11-26 Thread Grok Mogger
Colin wrote: > > No video card? Besides the Wireless Device, the graphics card is the > other "touchy" component Debian might have problems with. > > I was just going to use the onboard video. I have no plans to do any serious gaming or anything on this any time soon. =) But thanks for th

Re: How can I verify hardware compatibility?

2006-11-25 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:36:19PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: I'm planning on buying components individually and piecing together a computer. I'd like to install Debian Linux on it. I'm not buying any of the latest and greatest stuff, and the hardwar

How can I verify hardware compatibility?

2006-11-25 Thread Grok Mogger
I'm planning on buying components individually and piecing together a computer. I'd like to install Debian Linux on it. I'm not buying any of the latest and greatest stuff, and the hardware I have picked out is pretty standard fare, nothing too fancy. So I'm pretty sure everything will "just

Networking over USB

2006-11-22 Thread Grok Mogger
I've seen some writing on the internet that suggests that it's possible to do networking over USB. Like I could send TCP/IP packets over a USB cable instead of an ethernet cable. Is this actually possible? If so, I don't know where to even begin. I'm not finding much googling. Could someo

Re: rescue distro on 128 meg usb key?

2006-10-31 Thread Grok Mogger
Matt Price wrote: hi, my dad is bringing me an old toshiba tablet (don't have the model number) that seems to be having serious trouble, possibly a disk failure. I will probably install a linux distro on it eventually, but will have to figure out what makes the most sense for this kind of machi

Re: md5sum lots of files

2006-10-21 Thread Grok Mogger
Grok Mogger wrote: I have about 36 GB of files on a hard disk that I've transfered to another disk. I'd like to cksum or md5sum the files just to make sure that they were all copied well. I can't seem to find a way to recurse through the directories and do this to a lot

Re: md5sum lots of files

2006-10-20 Thread Grok Mogger
Allan Wind wrote: On 2006-10-20T07:33:46-0700, Dave Carrigan wrote: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > /tmp/source.sums cd /dest/dir find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > /tmp/dest.sums diff -u /tmp/source.sums /tmp/dest.sums Might need a sort in there before redirecting to files.

Re: md5sum lots of files

2006-10-20 Thread Grok Mogger
Dave Carrigan wrote: On Oct 20, 2006, at 6:58 AM, Grok Mogger wrote: I have about 36 GB of files on a hard disk that I've transfered to another disk. I'd like to cksum or md5sum the files just to make sure that they were all copied well. I can't seem to find a way to recur

md5sum lots of files

2006-10-20 Thread Grok Mogger
I have about 36 GB of files on a hard disk that I've transfered to another disk. I'd like to cksum or md5sum the files just to make sure that they were all copied well. I can't seem to find a way to recurse through the directories and do this to a lot of files. I've looked around a lot, and

Re: The Debian cyrus-sasl2 team is in need of your help!

2006-10-19 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:01:29AM -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Greetings fellow Debian users and developers, The Debian Cyrus SASL Team is working at a breakneck pace to try

Re: The Debian cyrus-sasl2 team is in need of your help!

2006-10-19 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Greetings fellow Debian users and developers, The Debian Cyrus SASL Team is working at a breakneck pace to try and get the new upstream version ready in time for Etch. For that to happen, we [*snip

Re: AVG anti-virus

2006-10-18 Thread Grok Mogger
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:21:15AM +0200, steef wrote: hi list, AVG (www.grisoft.com) has a in their opinion 'free' anti-virusprogram AVG. does debian (i.c. sarge and or etch) really need such a program? and, what is free? i cannot find their source-code on their

Re: System maintenance

2006-10-15 Thread Grok Mogger
> * Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > I like it because you can configure it to update the package list and do > > nothing, to update the package list and download any pending updates but > > not install them, or to update, download and install all without > > intervention.

RE: 1 CPU or 2 ?

2006-10-14 Thread Grok Mogger
If the server is more or less just doing NFS, then even with a 10Gbps network card, would a dual-core CPU really help...? This is really just guess work... but the software you're running for NFS would need to be smart enough to take advantage of a dual core for it to even matter, wouldn't it? A

RE: Linux and Newest Hardware

2006-10-12 Thread Grok Mogger
Thanks for the replies everyone, it really helped out. I appreciate it, - GM -Original Message- From: Roberto C. Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:44 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Linux and Newest Hardware On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 03:

Linux and Newest Hardware

2006-10-11 Thread Grok Mogger
I am under the impression that generally Linux is not guaranteed to run on the newest hardware.  For example, if I buy a brand new model of computer from Dell, one that's only recently started being sold, can I really be sure that Linux is going to detect all of my hardware properly?  Or for

RE: installer doesn't detect cdrom

2006-10-11 Thread Grok Mogger
Does this mean that there is no driver for his CD-ROM drive in the linux kernel he's using? I've never been very clear on how this sort of thing works in Linux. Thanks, - GM -Original Message- From: michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:33 PM To: debian-us

NSS and PAM - What's the relation?

2006-10-04 Thread Grok Mogger
Just what the title says.  What is the relation between NSS and PAM?   I understand that NSS basically tells C libraries where to get information.  What's confusing is that two of the entries in the nsswitch.conf file are "passwd" and "shadow".  Are these entries for programs that don't use

RE: Etch and NSS with LDAP

2006-10-04 Thread Grok Mogger
Cool, thanks. Guide looks pretty good! =) Appreciate it, - GM -Original Message- From: Dave Ewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:33 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Etch and NSS with LDAP On Wednesday, 04.10.2006 at 10:23 -0400, Grok

RE: Etch and NSS with LDAP

2006-10-04 Thread Grok Mogger
ch and NSS with LDAP On Tuesday, 03.10.2006 at 16:25 -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: > Could someone knowledgeable please confirm or refute this for me? > > Since the libnss-ldap package has been removed from etch (as of Oct 1st), I > absolutely cannot by any means manage all the normal lin

RE: Making a Debian Bootable USB Pen Drive

2006-10-03 Thread Grok Mogger
Nuno: "Don't! Nothing should be installed on a flash drive. A traditional install was meant for hard drives, not flash drives. Browser cache, /tmp, syslog and so on will damage the device." Andrew: " I assume you are trying to avoid the damage caused by longterm heavy writing which "wears out" fla

Etch and NSS with LDAP

2006-10-03 Thread Grok Mogger
Could someone knowledgeable please confirm or refute this for me?   Since the libnss-ldap package has been removed from etch (as of Oct 1st), I absolutely cannot by any means manage all the normal linux logons for an etch box using LDAP.  Right?   The only way I'll be able to do that, is ei