Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:52:40 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > You *imagine*, not "think" (using reductive logic?). I'm sure your > not a bully who forces your ideas onto those that do want fast boot > instead of hibernation. Did you really need to send this? The entire note, not just this snippet.

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:05:20 -0600 y...@marupa.net wrote: > Sure, systemd has its flaws (While I like the journal, there are > downsides to a binary-based log when your system is screwed up and > your only resource is a LiveCD. I don't know if there's a way to read > the journal outside the system

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
This isn't properly replied to. I am new to Claws, and I have no time to figure out gpg signing. On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:56:22 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 20:03:54, ghaverla wrote: > > > > But the fact there are no options is what bothers me. > >

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:53:59 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > > I disagree with the binaryness of > > systemd. > > Do you mean the *one* binary in systemd? I'm pretty sure the source > is available. As I understand things, one of the benefits of systemd is a fast boot process. As I only boot m

Re: Numerical Methods Programming: was: Four people decided the yadda yadda yadda

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 14:46:21 -0500 "Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com" wrote: > On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:31:08 -0700 > ghaverla wrote: > > > > Most of the programming I have done is numerical methods, > > What language did you use? I've used a little bi

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:27:59 -0500 "Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com" wrote: > On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 18:26:25 -0700 > ghaverla wrote: > > > > I will try Sabyon (sp?). But it looks like it might move to systemd > > willingly leaving no option. It is based on

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 03:11:24 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 18:26 -0700, ghaverla wrote: > > But to read that a split of 49:51 means there can't be options is > > disheartening. > > I was inaccurate, I guess there were much more than 51% pr

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread ghaverla
On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:28:38 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against > systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users > wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against systemd, but around > 51 % were pro systemd.

Re: pbuilder

2014-02-28 Thread ghaverla
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 20:22:55 -0700 ghaverla wrote: > I guess I am trapped by an update that is midway through. > > I was meaning to recompile hplip, and one suggestion was pbuilder. The update wen through today. I do not know what the intended way to update the sudoers file is. W

pbuilder

2014-02-27 Thread ghaverla
I guess I am trapped by an update that is midway through. I was meaning to recompile hplip, and one suggestion was pbuilder. I set up a new user to do the compiling under, and was hoping to put the pbuilder environment in that HOME. It took a few tries to get pbuilder create from building everyt

Re: Re: [OT] KDM No Longer In KDE ?!?

2014-02-22 Thread ghaverla
Trivia really. Long ago, I tried to set up kdm to run multiple x servers, and it was too opaque for me, and so I tried gdm and found it easy. There were other aspects of gdm I liked. Then Gnome 3 came along, and its gdm3 couldn't do multiple x servers (or so I read). Consequently, I am still ru

Re: Help with command - cp

2014-01-26 Thread ghaverla
Your requirement (to skip hidden files and directories) is what is usually required. But, as a generic rule, you can use the echo command to help with analysing how the command line shell might expand a wild card. echo cp /path/to/src/* /path/to/dest > some_tmp_file If I do this on my home direc