Re: Re: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-10 Thread fsmithred
One of the members of the refracta team is experimenting with repackaging stuff after removing the dependency on systemd libs. I think tornow provided the link to these packages in another post on this thread. This might be a viable option for some people, but it needs more testing than the few of

Re: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-10 Thread fsmithred
Are you sure that systemd libraries are required to install the server software that you want? I just tried 'aptitude -s install apache2 php5 mysql-server' on a jessie build with no systemd, dbus, libpulse0 or xorg, and it didn't complain. Here's an earlier iso I made of jessie with no systemd and

Re: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-10 Thread fsmithred
Refracta IS Debian, but since I'm not Debian, I can't call it that. It's debian jessie with sysvinit instead of systemd. The jessie-based version of refracta was created in the following manner - Standard-system install of wheezy. Pinned "*systemd*" to -1 dist-upgrade to jessie added some packages