desktop
environment installed, so it is possible that some part of polkitd
wasn't installed, though I would expect anything that's truly needed to
have been brought in by package dependencies.
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go looking through the BIOS settings to ensure
there's no way it is set to legacy booting or fallback to legacy
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ld (and do) do that.
Really I should use preseed to automate that part but I have been too
lazy so far.
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Hi,
On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 04:31:08PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-07-12, Andy Smith wrote:
> > But for brand new devices I don't care what was on it before.
> >
> > You can construct a hypothetical situation where:
> >
> > 1. I buy a new storage device
ome, and I don't think that anyone else does either.
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gard that a possibility worth worrying about, but
okay for anyone that does, yes they would want to secure erase their
storage. For NVMe they would want to be sure to select Secure Erase
Setting 1 or 2.
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#x27;t enjoy that, though, and it sounds like that is your view of
what Discourse currently offers.
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probably forgotten to set them in one case (or did set
them in one case, but not in the other two).
> All 3 are ext4 formatted.
> All 3 are seperate hardware.
It doesn't matter. What you are seeing is completely normal if we assume
you did not set the permissions how you w
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:58:04AM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Andy Smith writes:
> > I think it's worth considering the fact that new computer users are
> > increasingly less likely to use email and are more likely to find email
> > intimidating.
>
> Do you
x27;t think those
would be good choices though, so while Andrew is discussing welcoming
environments for user support I thought I would make that case.
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onvenience and it is possible to have
it without all of the negatives.
You're making an argument here that Debian is not actually for people
who don't like email and I question whether that is good for the
prospective users or even good for Debian itself.
It doesn't massively matter though as FOSS will continue even if Debian
allows itself to stagnate out of existence.
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On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50:41PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 10/7/25 23:10, Andy Smith wrote:
> > I'm telling you how things are
>
> Those are the words that are problematic - "I am the absolute authority and
> the absolute expert regarding what is happenin
as, pleaser and even systemd's run0 are
available, but they do of course work differently.
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On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 04:25:56PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 03:19:40PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 02:32:53PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> > > The likes of facebook are steering people away from email as they
re
vast numbers of messages that are read only by other bits of software
not directly by any human.
Long term I don't think LKML will stick with this, I don't think LKML
will inspire others to reverse the trend, and Debian absolutely 100%
will not manage that either.
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iscord?
(Do not confuse "Discord" with "Discourse". I really like Discourse, and
that one is open source. Ubuntu user may be familiar with it.)
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n any way
user serviceable. It isn't clear if personal vehicle ownership will
remain a thing, either, and already isn't a thing in the lifetimes of
many people right now. I am not going to participate in an off-topic
debate about those facts of modern life.
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ove as the focus is on getting higher
densities of storage, e.g. right now you can buy 122TB NVMe drives (for
about $12,500 USD each).
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e a week
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/fstrim.timer; enabled; preset: enabled)
Active: active (waiting) since Fri 2025-06-13 00:38:26 BST; 3 weeks 6 days
ago
Trigger: Mon 2025-07-14 00:22:50 BST; 3 days left
Triggers: ● fstrim.service
Docs: man:fstrim
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¹ It is
t it
should try to remove email workflows from all aspects of its use.
I say this as someone who has had an email address since 1992 and has
been using this particular email address since 1998.
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to be writable. This kind of encryption ransomware is really common on
Windows. It just goes through every mounted drive looking for what it
can encrypt, so it doesn't care that the drive is local or over SMB (or
what OS the Samba server is), just that it can write.
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is spam" button on each
message, which I think was mentioned earlier in the thread. That's worth
using just to hopefully get the message removed from the archives.
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rs,
"ProtectSystem=true" only makes /usr, /boot and /efi read-only.
"ProtectSystem=full" adds /etc to that list. "Protectsystem=strict"
makes everything EXCEPT /dev, /proc and /sys read-only.
This is documented in "man systemd.exec".
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running inside some other
container.
ReadWritePaths= can be used to add paths that can be written to, so
check there isn't one of those.
Otherwise there is some other issue, or a bug.
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rading.
Anyone asking about this needs to read the release notes.
Anyone providing answers in this thread that differ from what the
release notes say needs to read the release notes.
Everyone needs to read the release notes before upgrading, every time.
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all used to putting config
fragments in the {conf,mods,sites}-available directories and then using
the tools to enable or disable those config fragments. I haven't looked
if Debian's package documentation says this is how it SHOULD be done but
in this package's case it has so many a
er-cache
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e the HTTP-01 challenges come back to
them, etc. and you already have some form of config management or
continuous delivery system.
See https://letsencrypt.org/docs/challenge-types/ for more info, but
remember that there are many clients other than Let's Encrypt';s own
certbot.
Thank
me later.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=119544568#MailingLists-Users
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 08:03:58AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 01:18:37AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?
>
> I think so. I think the general expectation of spamassassin is that you
> use a
d by the similarly named timer
unit. I don't recall whether that timer is enabled by default.
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It's bad enough that this small group of selfish people feel that the
rest of us and the archives needs tens of messages of them debating
relativity with each other, but…
On Sat, Jun 07, 2025 at 10:55:20PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Considering that shot has killed well over a million to date
…
T_DESKTOP=KDE
I'm glad we've managed to establish that you're using KDE on X11 (not
Wayland), so perhaps the thread can now move on.
Myself, I don't use KDE and I don't use Thunderbird, so I have nothing
further to contribute I'm afraid.
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hen. Please show us the output of:
$ env | grep XDG_
Particularly of interest will be the values of:
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=gnome
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME
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y go straight for trixie anyway as
it's very close to release as stable.
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to think the
normal eth0 was a new interface next time.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=771077
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rating system is
reinstalled next time.
Some storsage devices such as NVMe drives are not bootable in legacy
BIOS mode, but it looks like you have a working operating system already
so maybe that's not why you are wanting to do this.
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ves it more than a rapid glance.
I am in agreement with David on this one. OP's subject line was
particularly bad.
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rompt until a key is pressed.
This behaviour can be disabled by overriding the getty@.service with:
[Service]
TTYVTDisallocate=no
That will cause the agetty process per tty to stay around.
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y inspect it with a running Debian system
> booted from the installation medium?
It doesn't sound so broken that booting to the rescue shell wouldn't
allow you to fix it. If not then yeah, rescue mode from some Debian
install media.
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echo "Mount USB drive B before running this!" >&2
exit 1
fi
near the top of your script, assuming that /mnt/usb-drive-b is where you
expect that to be mounted.
You can do fancier checks to make sure that the thing mounted there is
really the correct thing, but that will do f
ck devices which you put ext4 filesystems
on as before.
Moving to an advanced filesystem would bring more benefits that some
people say they can no longer live without, but there is maybe a steeper
learning curve and changes that touch many things like how you do
backups for example.
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second the advice to read the release
notes now, read them again once it's released and then read them again
especially the part about upgrading from Debian 12. The release notes
for upgrade do cover how to work out if you have enough dusk space for
it, if the partition sizing issue is a con
the pant leg less travelled.
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ry early releases of Debian may be viable.
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e left wondering if
they, too, made the same unknown error.
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ription of your exact set
of steps including full command output, "ls -la" of the mount point
directory before and after your mount, contents of your /etc/fstab, and
no censored details.
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On Wednesday, 30 April 2025 12:08 Dan Ritter wrote:
> Andy Wood wrote:
> > Is anybody else being hit by a problem with openssh-server after the
> > 1:10.0p1-2 migration into testing the other day?
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >
:9.9p2-2)
but none of the choices are installable:
[no choices]
Andy.
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 08:59:13PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> The library option (-lxenstat) has to appear *after* any objects that
> use it.
>
> cc -Wall -o foo foo.c -lxenstat
Ah, okay. My addition of -c was just coincidence then, and it was the
reordering that fixed it.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 12:44:59AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> What am I doing wrong here? It's been a couple of years and perhaps this
> part of my brain has dissolved.
Yes, it was just a missing "-c" from the arguments. This works:
$ cc -Wall -c foo.c -o foo -lxenstat
Th
usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxenstat.so | grep xenstat_init
3980 T xenstat_init@@VERS_4.20.0
I have checkjed with strace and the ld that cc spawns is opening that
shared library, and that shared library does have that symbol, so…
what's going on?
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you shown to us or described to us what
actually happens when you try to ping one of your other machines.
We can't begin to help without you doing that. Once you've done that
there will likely be further questions, but that's where we start.
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ookworm
into a chroot it's probably not that hard to find and I would recommend
following something like that (assuming you really want to do a chroot
install) because it seems like you are struggling with some of the
fundamentals here.
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/ from inside chroot.
So far we have only have drip drip drip of little information and some
of that not relevant.
Also Debian Daedalus is not a Debian release code name so you are
probably running something else like Devuan, and should really seek
support at their support venues.
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at the amount of code that can be reached by
strange packets from the Internet side is going to be a lot smaller with
WireGuard.
It's going to be quite difficult to prove either way though, so let's
just agree to disagree.
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could recompile the OpenSSH package on Debian with options
> disabled.
[…]
> What do you think about this approach?
I think you're wasting your time and should not have sshd listen on the
public Internet at all, instead VPN in to your network and only have
sshd available on the ins
you do may break it
further, and as it has no support whatsoever you'll just get to keep the
pieces.
This is a form of tech debt and now it's time to pay the interest.
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Hi,
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 05:42:43AM +0200, Petric Frank wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2025, 00:13:10 CEST schrieb Andy Smith:
> > You have yet to explain why block device serial numbers
> > (/dev/disk/by-id/) and filesystem UUIDs (/dev/disk/by-uuid/) are not
> > su
be
> created to get device entries driven by the cable ids.
>
> Due i am not firm with udev rules - any hint on these ?
You have yet to explain why block device serial numbers
(/dev/disk/by-id/) and filesystem UUIDs (/dev/disk/by-uuid/) are not
sufficient for your use case.
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away
seemingly in another thread.
This "SOLVED" thing comes from web forums, which work completely
differently.
So then the argument changes to not be in aid of current subscribers but for
hypothetical future readers of the web archives of the list.
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On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 05:21:45AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 4/3/25 13:39, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Historically we do not get very far here when talking about IPv6 with
> > Gene.
> True Andy, but there's no ipv6 within 100 miles of me.
The Linux kernel comes with
e a subject line unless the topic of
the mail itself changes (and I remember). I just wish people arguing for
one thing or the other would admit the trade-offs.
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far here when talking about IPv6 with
Gene.
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:19:30AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 3/31/25 05:10, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Here is the bug report you quoted but did not read:
> >
> > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1080330
>
> > > I've read
systems w/o a dhcpd.
This is not how processes on Linux do DNS lookups. Virtually nothing is
"capable of reading the /etc/hosts file" because that's not how any of
this works.
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e then using email would be more
pleasant for them, but there is an undercurrent of "you are failing at
email" here when the reality is more like "you are not excelling at
email, unlike this tiny priesthood whose numbers dwindle every year".
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/etc/resolv.conf file is just a static file so
there's limited things that would be editing it. The guesses of "you"
or "the installer" would be the most likely for me as nothing else
should be touching it.
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gt; writing to it from writing to it.
You are coming perilously close to summoning the beast, and then we
don't get to close the portal until 30+ installs of something that is
only almost Debian have been performed in undocumented unreproducible
ways.
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Hi,
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:11:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 13:06:54 +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Without "resolvconf" the /etc/resolv.conf file is just a static file so
> > there's limited things that would be editing it. Th
dns-nameservers settings
in order to update the file, so have a look what they do.
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l/36xhap5tafvm4boiy3acu5kxlhkvnp32wp3oknbfbkxbdkeq7r@galecvidi3bn/
https://jonathancarter.org/2024/08/29/orphaning-bcachefs-tools-in-debian/
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g "=yes" in a variable that expected "=true", but that when
done with dpkg-reconfigure it correctly puts in "=true" so it is unclear
to me how "=yes" got in there.
Anyway, as was the case in 2022 but even more so in 2025, it is probably
time to rely on other
e aren't stored in git or in many other version control systems. It
will be fine until you actually restore anything, at which point the
files will get ownership/group of your user and mode 0644 or 0755
depending upon whether they were executable or not when committed.
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aven't explicitly agreed to though.
There are a few things in the Debian archive that require agreement to
terms upon use. Perhaps the best known would be certbot and other ACME
clients. They go to quite some lengths to present the question at first
run time.
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cannot easily guess
which user-facing frontend made the change to your MIME type
associations, but you have been given instructions on how to change it
to what you want.
> Suggestions please.
I suggest to stop assuming you know better than everyone else when you
ask for help.
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supports an amd64 kernel then I think you are much better
off switching to that kernel in-place while using bookworm and then
letting it dist-upgrade to trixie. Though a full reinstall to amd64
would be even better, of course.
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w.
There doesn't really look like that much you could delete. You could
configure journald to keep less logs but it's kind of a minimal saving.
If you don't use snaps then you could uninstall all of that and get some
space back, but probably you had a reason fro installing that.
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ul but if you don't have it
then a combination of "du" and "sort" will be useful, e.g:
$ sudo du -xh /var | sort -rh | head -25
(top 25 largest directories in /var with human-readable units.)
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ably be along now to say they manage perfectly well
hiring an intern to sketch the contents of webpages onto the side of a
potato then mail it to their dead drop once a month and any other
requirements are pure hedonism. All answers are subjective.
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Debian's lists. Just unsubscribe when you don't want
emails.
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untu but with a shorter release cycle. All it
needs is a vast amount of effort. Good luck!
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"It is I, Simon Quinlank. The chief conductor on the bus that is called
hobby." — Simon Quinlank
l change with the next
release except by chance.
It may be worth trying out a pre-release install of it to find out for
sure, before pinning a lot of hope on that.
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bug tracker. However as purely my lowly user opinion, it
is a terrible idea and will be instantly rejected.
All that will happen in this thread though is a back and forth about
whether it's a good idea or not. It will not actually happen.
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rve subject line
changes only for when the content of the email has drifted far enough
away from the original subject line so as to be about a totally
different thing. It cannot be used to draw attention to some nuance of
the original topic. Thanks, Google.
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than the 6.1.x
provided by Debian stable packages, as these tend to be a long term
stable kernel with only bug fix backported, not new features or device
support. So you may have to see what is in backports or experimental.
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to 6.1.0-31?
You can try a kernel from bookworm-backports or even download the source
of the latest Linux kernel and build a deb package for it.
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icipate in this group by email alone?"
Their most likely answer: "no, what we have is what we have"
I would certainly not try to come up with examples of other mailing
lists, especially not ones like debian-user, because they most liekly
won't know what you are referring to. They
user/2024/02/msg00515.html
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gt; The alternative instruction provided in the logs, "set all affected
> rules score to 0," is rather opaque; I'm not sure how that is to be done.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block
says:
score __RCVD_IN_DNSWL 0
in local.cf.
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