Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread saint
Bartosz Olender writes: > Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding > that "GNU is *Not* Unix" May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the recursive expansion of GNU? > and because of that we should have the freedom > to create better solutions, rather

Re: Using a second monitor

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Brian writes: > On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 17:29:22 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote: > > > Brian writes: > > > *Your* use of .xinitrc is not the issue. Your advice, without > > > qualification. that users of Debian follow in your footsteps is. > > > The argument is set out in the earlier linked post

Re: Using a second monitor

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Brian writes: > *Your* use of .xinitrc is not the issue. Your advice, without > qualification. that users of Debian follow in your footsteps is. > The argument is set out in the earlier linked post. Can't check right now, but if I recall it well I cited both .xinitrc and .xsession, whichever on

Re: Using a second monitor

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Brian writes: > On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 14:22:25 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote: > > > Brian writes: > > > > > > Is there a reason to prefer .xinitrc over .xsession with startx? > > > > First of all, I used .xinitrc when Linux kernel version was below 0, > > my environment is more or less t

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER"

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Zenaan Harkness writes: > ChrisBanalGrammatistica, Grammatistica? Which language does this word belong to? Ancient Debianese, possibly pre-Vax era? -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient /___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_ African word //-

Re: Using a second monitor

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Brian writes: > On Thu 14 Aug 2014 at 09:08:29 +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote: > > [A nice xrandr howto snipped] > > > One last thing. Since you do not want to issue this command over and > > over again, you can place it into the .xsession file (if you use > > xdm/gdm/kdm) or .xinitrc file if y

Re: Using a second monitor

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Elimar Riesebieter writes: > https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 Cool page, thank you. -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient /___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_ African word //--\| | \| | Integralista GNUslamico

Re: Using a second monitor

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Bret Busby writes: > After reading the thread, and the above response, it occurred to me, > that this could be worthwhile to add to the debian.org web site, as a > "HowTo", for whoever has the privileges. I share the part of my .xinitrc that deals with xrandr # check if the tv I have home is c

Re: Using a second monitor

2014-08-14 Thread saint
Robert D. Hilliard writes: > Reply To: bobhilli...@gmail.com > I have a new Dell Ispiron that dual boots Windows 7 and Debian 7.4. > The new machine uses the F1 key to connect to the second monitor, but > it only works in Windows - In Debian pressing F! is a noop. I would advice to use xrandr

Re: Towards an instructive minimalist intall of Openbox

2014-08-13 Thread saint
Bob Proulx writes: > And so there is the explanation. If the .xinitrc script exits then > that indicates to xinit that the user is done and that xinit should > exit, ending the X windows session. Therefore we put the window > manager at the end and run it in the foreground not the background.

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-11 Thread saint
Zenaan Harkness writes: > GNOME Image Manipulation Package? GNU Image Manipulation Program. It a bit funny but not strange that The Gimp is developed under the banner of the GNOME project: GNOME was created AFTER The Gimp was re-written using GTK (GIMP Tool Kit), providing the uniform look requir

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread saint
Zenaan Harkness writes: > There are tiers of users. > > There's the users who are not developers. > There's the users who are developers. > Then there's me. > > Since I am at the top of the hierarchy, Uh, you are from down under, aren't you? That could explain this perfectly. -- /\

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread saint
koanhead writes: > On 08/10/2014 10:30 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > For the record, in case anyone is interested, I'm writing this from a > Jessie box without systemd. It's easy to make this happen, and it works > just fine as long as you don't use GNOME or MATE, possibly KDE, or those > functi

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-24 Thread saint
Zenaan Harkness writes: > Scripting has its place, but from my extensive reading > of systemd docs and some of the old sysv startup scripts > (for postfix and various others over the years), give me > systemd unit files any day! Preference. Mine. "De gustibus non disputandum est" (you can't ar

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Steve Litt writes: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:35:01 +0200 > sa...@eng.it wrote: > > > Steve Litt writes: > > > > > Although I spent 14 years making my living as a software developer, > > > there are times when I don't want the freedom to do absolutely > > > anything. This is why I switch

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Steve Litt writes: > Although I spent 14 years making my living as a software developer, > there are times when I don't want the freedom to do absolutely > anything. This is why I switched away from Perl: I needed some > limitations. Despite limits may be a fun challenge, I prefer to g

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Joel Rees writes: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:29 PM, wrote: > > Zenaan Harkness writes: > > > >> So thank you Joel for spending the time to describe these > > > concepts as 'pedantically' as you have. Your descriptions > > > are an excellent grounding for the conversation which is > > >

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Zenaan Harkness writes: > So thank you Joel for spending the time to describe these > concepts as 'pedantically' as you have. Your descriptions > are an excellent grounding for the conversation which is > undoubtedly going to continue :) One question. Can you give me an example of Turing compl

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Joel Rees writes: > 2014/07/23 16:41 "Tony Baldwin" : > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 03:46:56PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > > Programming is a field of mathematics. Mathematically speaking, limiting > > > a > > > language to a declarative syntax does not mean that the language ceases > >

Re: FWIW: script vs. configurtion file

2014-07-23 Thread saint
Joel Rees writes: > Programming is a field of mathematics. Mathematically speaking, limiting a > language to a declarative syntax does not mean that the language ceases to > be a language. But it could lose the Turing completeness. -- /\ ___Ubun

Re: how to reconstruct a deleted /boot partition

2006-08-14 Thread Yannick Le Saint
how this translates in FC4 though ... -- Regards. Yannick Le Saint (kyncani) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://y.lesaint.free.fr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: System gradually getting slower

2005-08-03 Thread Yannick Le Saint (kyncani)
gt; > but recently everything has started going slower, the only way I have > > found that fixes it is to reboot the system. > > Does anyone know whats going on? Is there any diagnosticsprogram I can > > run to check the problem? > > > top And oprofile. -- Regard

Re: gtk-config

2005-08-01 Thread Yannick Le Saint (kyncani)
not installed ones) provide which files. For example, apt-file search bin/gtk-config will tell you which package provide gtk-config. -- Regards. Yannick Le Saint (kyncani) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: grub and 3 disks ( ide and scsi)

2005-07-30 Thread Yannick Le Saint (kyncani)
tected them. -- Regards. Yannick Le Saint (kyncani) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Why gmplayer - no sound; mplayer - sound?

2005-07-30 Thread Yannick Le Saint (kyncani)
27;s problem with the audio device? I thought it was > just a frontend for mplayer. Yes, but they don't take their configuration from the same places. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto -- Regards. Yannick Le Saint (kyncani) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Problems w/bash upgrading to libreadlineg

1998-09-07 Thread Randy & Marianne Saint
bash will not install. Help! How can I install the new bash so I will have an operational system? Perhaps if someone can send me the new bash executable, I can install that by hand. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Randy Saint [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Lyx figures and mice

1997-06-06 Thread Saint
GET ME OFF THIS LIST ! On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Kingsley G. Morse Jr. wrote: > Does anyone know how to use figures in 0.10.7 version of Lyx from the > "frozen" and "contrib" directories? When I click on the figure icon on > the menu bar, I'm not prompted for the filename of a fi