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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:41:14 CDT
From: Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Upon more fiddling, I find that sendmail is listening on port 25, and
mailq informs me that there have been attempts at communication:
eyry:/home/hawk# mailq
Mail Queue (8 requests)
--Q-ID-- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient
QAA015758 Thu J
ARGH!!!
Yesterday mornign, I let unstable update itself. Once more, the mail was
clobhered.
Since I had an hour or two, and there were odd things about the disk, i decided
it woudl be a good time to wipe the disk.
Eventually, I figured out that most of my troubles comes from my maxtor 8.4 not
David Guadine wrotem,
> I had to rerun smail-config and specify using a daemon instead of
> an inet.d entry. (I got that from reading debian-devel.) But, apparently
> you were already using a daemon; there's obviously something here I don't
> understand, but try what I did anyway.
Just tried th
hmm, I now also noticed that there is a file @ in my home directory, which is
a symbolic link to the current message in exmh. I don't think this used to be
the case. and after a reboot, the smail daemon had to be manually started
again.
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> I have heard of some problems with AMD K6 Anyone to comment?
> The reason is because I have a K6 200 right beside me. :)
There was a minor bug that was fixed some months ago. In repeated compiles,
it would attempt to execute an occasional instruction twice. THis has been
fixed, and all
Yesterday I upgraded some packages, including smail. Coming in this morning,
there was no new mail, which is more than a little odd. Apparently smail was
no longer running; trying to stop the daemon failed. I restarted it, and mail
begain appearing. But Every message is accompanied by an erro
Bob Nielsen wrote,
> I think the requirement is : 5.4.4. In anycase, it works fine for me with
> 5.4.33.
The next magic question, is are you using hamm or bo, and should it make a
difference?
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When I try to run the setup for StarOffice, I get a
eyryttyp4:hawk>/usr/lib/StarOffice-3.1/setup
StarOffice3.1 Installation Tool
Segmentation fault
Today I saw a posting in a nesgroup claiming that a minimum of libc5-5.4.38 is
necessary. Debian seems to stop at .33.
However, there's enough
err, just "pwd" should do it
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jen jorgensen wrote,
> "standard"? Surely you jest. Yeah, it's also the "standard" for a lot
> of other ISA cards whose manufacturer decided that 5 should be the
> "standard" IRQ for their board. I believe this myth has originated
> because the Creative Labs Soundblaster board factory-defaults to
After playing for an extended period with the default settings, I finally
figured out why my sound card wouldn't work: the defaults in the kernel
package use Irq 7 rather than 5. Isn't 5 the standard on this?
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> >
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I have a question for you... What happens to the Linux partitions sitting
> > > in a
> > > "extended" partition if the extended partition gets accidently _trashed_?
> > > (like from a virus)
> > I assume it does the same thing as trashi
I got somewhat farther in hunting down twin, and some advice from their side.
It seems that there are libc functions not present in our version.
Particularly,
unsigned int * _dl_find_hash(char *, char *, int , char *, int);
^^^
and
I forget where current is linked, but isn't it to unstable?
Anyway, here is my solution:
1) boot dos off a floppy with networking, and use dos fdisk. Make a dos
partition where you want your swap partition.
2) go to an ftp, and cd /debian/stable/disks-i386
download resc1440.bin, drv1440.bin,
> Run liloconfig, and answer the questions it asks you appropriately.
Is this the right program? all three questions are yes/no types, rather than
allowing me to change them. It wants to use /dev/hda3, /, for boot, and has no
option to change to /dev/hda1.
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I've seen the 1FA business before, but now that I've managed to move my file
system over to my new drive, and lilo'd it, I get a 3FA: after the hardware
check. The key sequence A1 (i think) will get me to LILO, which will boot if
left alone. I checked and I'm not touching the keys as it boots
> How can I configure a Debian 1.3.1 box to read and write on/to Mac
> diskettes and which programs can I use ?
You can't. The pc type drive is physically incapable of handling the mac
format.
The solution is to use pc format disks, which both the mac & linux can read &
write.
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My new drive came, and i'm trying to do a fresh install, as some stuff got
tossed in strange places a few months ago.
I've already found that base-files.deb won't install onto a raw file system,
so I have the .tgz untarring at the moment (gee, this maxtor is louder than i
expected). ANd the o
> I sent a note about this problem a week or so ago and got back some mailer
> daemon error messages so I'm not sure it made it. I apologize if this is a
> duplication. I'm having trouble with xdm. Every couple times the user
> exits the window manager, the machine hangs with a black screen and r
hmm, the on again, off-again linux/486/xterminal project seems on again :)
What we're doing is turning 486's into xterminals for our alphas. They'll
only have about 8mb, and from 80-200 of hd, but what the heck :)
I have seized control of some spare drives, and want to dedicate a 200mb hard
d
I've figured out enough of where everything is to get the web server running,
and it indeed comes up with the pages correctly. However, I don't have the
tool type of file working for some reason. Instead of executing, their text
merely loads. And these are generally suid scripts; these are t
I've found some more information out since the last post, and Bruce's
suggestions.
It seems that the items not found by configure are only needed for some other
specific systems, and that these are not a problem.
THere is a problem, though, in that twin's debugger is still using two
functions
> Do her grandparents have a un*x box?! Why not just send it as an
> attachment?
Doh!
I should have thought of that. I'd assumed for some reason that xfases was
mime, rather than part of x. grr.
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In a fit of cleverness, I used a digital camera to take my daughters picture
to send in an email as an xface to her granparents. However, as I go through
the manpage for xfaces, and the help & preferences for exmh, I can only find
instructions for receiving, not sending.
Can someone point me
> does anyone have an idea which card I should select in XF86Setup? I really
> would like to use a resolution like 1024*769 in 32bit color - is this
> possible with the X-SVGA server - or du I need to install anotherone?
If you click on the "advanced options" after you choose your card in XF86Set
There was some discussion about this a couple of months ago, but with a 486,
as well as a configuration that let me play with it without compiling, I
didn't follow everything.
Now I'm trying to build it, and during configure get:|
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... (cached) no
checking for dn
frank wrote,
> Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > They work wonderfully. I have a k6-166 running at 210/83
> > quite happilly. However, it needs some cooling at this
> > speed; until i get something more than this cheesy $2 fan,
> > I need to keep th
I assume these exist. I read instructions for NFS a couple of summers ago.
But I can't find them, and the man page for NFS is only instructions for
/etc/fstab.
Are there HowTo's for these hding somewhere? I want pop-3 to get the messages
from another machine (in my office) for the rest of t
Dale wrote,
>It seems that none of the solutions presented allowed sed to find and
>replace the - character pair.
Now that it's phrased that way, a memory arises.
I was trying to make filters to make articles posted to a mailing list
readable a while back (my ISN hardware would freeze on a ^S
Hammish wrote,
> On Wed, Nov 26, 1997 at 02:15:49PM +0600, Rick Hawkins wrote:
> > They work wonderfully. I have a k6-166 running at 210/83 quite happilly.
> > However, it needs some cooling at this speed; until i get something more
> > than
> > this cheesy $2 fan,
> Can someone give me (or point me to) info on which chips are affected?
steppings 9731 (or so) and earlier. These are no longer on the market, and AMD
replaces them for linux users and others who could really be affected. (It's
really hard to trigger the bug; compile the kernel 100 times or
They work wonderfully. I have a k6-166 running at 210/83 quite happilly.
However, it needs some cooling at this speed; until i get something more than
this cheesy $2 fan, I need to keep the side off to compile (but not at 166/66).
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>No, elf-x11r6lib doesn't exist, any package that depends on it should have
>a bug reported against it.
OK, where do i look for ino on this, and check to see that it's not already
done? I know that there's bugtracking, but i haven't paid much attention.
It's xforms.86, by the way.
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I'm getting dependencies on this,which claims not to exist on debian's ftp
site. Is there somewhere to get it?
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I finally have netscape 3.01 installed and working. But my links don't show
as followd; there is no difference between used & new links. Expiration is
set at 9 days.
any ideas?
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TO my happy surprise, this old fdomain 1610 scsi controller is happy as a
peach at an 83mhz bus (it's an EISA card). And it happily talks with the scsi
zip drive I bought for a mac last year.The floppy drive didn't seem to
survive the transistion to the new board (they're old, wiht unabled
> > intallation telling which disk to choose in intalll Debian? I want to
> > intall Debian in disk D but I am afraid of losing the old win95 data on
> > disk C. Before I am sure about this, I don't dare to proceed. Anyone cares
>
> "D" in linux parlance is likely to be "/dev/hdb", but check it o
> The only advantage I know of is that netscape does some stupid things when
> installing, among them placing files in ~root/.netscape/ that should go in
> $MOZILLA_HOME/.netscape/ - other than that, I can't really see any
> advantages (which reminds me that I should submit as a bug against this
>
> I've installed communicator 4.03 successfully on my debian 1.3.1, 2.0.30
> kernel system and all works fine. I would like to know what the advantage
> is to using the installer package rather than the install script that comes
> with the communicator package from netscape. I know that dselect w
> Hello,
> Being "brandnew" to Debian, I am having lots of trouble getting
> netscape3.01.
> I first tried under dselect and got a error (1?), then tried ftp to both
> debian (contrib) and netscape. I can't find it anywhere. I then went back
> to dselect and started from the top of the menu and fol
> What's the deal with xdm? My understanding was that that was the program
> used to login under X, without having to login from a console and then
> issue a startx command. During installation I told the program I wanted
> to start X with xdm; I see a message when I boot about xdm being start
> I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To:
Yes, using characters out of To: does seem kind of pointless. THere's plenty
of filtering software out there.
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I recall a discussion about finding orphaned files a couple of months ago.
Particularly, hunting down things in /usr/bin, /usr/lib that got installed
from outside of debian packages.
But i don't remember what the solution was.
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john scroggins asked,
> i am having a time setting up my ppp connection ... i want to run daild
> but i cannot seem to be able to configure it ...
> i continue to get various error messages as follows
> diald[182] you must define the remote ip address
> daild[182] you must define the local ip
> > this error only happened after upgrading to libc6, which i did by
> > following the instructions in the mini-howto. does this mean i have to
> > upgrade all of X also?
> >
> > brad
> Well, you probably should, even though this error doesn't mean that you
> need to. Check your /etc/ld.so.c
OK, I"ve gotten it working. Turns out that for some reason it wasn't changing
the default xserver to svga, but leaving it at S3.
But Now I have artifacts. Lots of them. ANd many of them scroll in windows.
I've got white ones, blue ones, and black ones. Forcing the redraw of a
window helps
My new video card has arrived, a diamond stealth video 2500. I've tried to run
XF86Setup, but am not getting anything usable.
I tell it which card, and for monitor have tried both the "can do 1280x1024 at
60hx", and actually entering the ranges for my machine, 30-66 and 55-130.
It successfull
Olivier THaran wrote,
> > tells me that the x86 has no "ret" function.
> > hmm, as i write this, the next one was a sig11. maybe i'm not coooled
> > enough to run this 166 at 200 (el-cheapo fan that came with it).
> It clearly means that, if you overclocked your K6, the hardware is so
> stres
Bob asked,
> Did you perhaps restore from backup? If for example you use
> tar, permissions on files created (including /tmp) are
> affected by umask. Root's default umask is 022 which blocks
> out write permission for group and others. Two ways to
> avoid this are: set umask to zero before res
> I just totally give up with this. Running debian 1.3.1 from CD but now I feel
> I need to delve into unstable again (always happens). Thing is, unstable has
> moved dir`s in the distribution and I`ll be damned if I can get the right
> entries into dpkg-ftp to download from it. What paths do I pu
> I am using a program that requires several colors available to operate
> ptoperly. For example, if netscape is open and I use the other program,
> whenever I enter its window with the mouse pointer, all the colors outside
> that window change.
do you need the programs at the same time? If you
hmm. after putting my new pieces together, i've lost write permissions
in /tmp
lyx can't create its temporary directory, emacs sometimes gets a
permission denied to make /tmp/emacs when sending mail, and exmh has
similar problems:
error while autoloading "Cache_Init": can't create director
> we should have started with posting your files :)
> > defaultroute /dev/modem 38400 persist
>
> for pppd being able to understand which line in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
> to use.
AH-HAH!yes, this did it. thank you, thankyou, thank you. I'm now
connected through the isp.
Should this be
> From the log you included in your message I see that another peer
> does not respond to anything except echo-requests. I don't know what
> stage you are on though, could you please send the complete log.
> (I don't see, for example, how pap authorization came through)
here's /e
I cheerfully set out to compile a new kernel on my new k6. fast. wow.
but i'm getting odd messages during "make zImage":
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486
-malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2
parts of my new machine have arrived at the office, so now it's fast
enough to be more than an xterminal (this isn't the same machine that's
having the troubles with PAP/PPP).
So I installed netscape. But I get the message,
yryttyp1:hawk>netscape
netscape: program is version 3.01, but resources
> > Is there a way to get it to keep the whole log, rather than the last 20
> > or so entries? I haven't found it yet.
> To see N last lines do: tail -N /var/log/messages
ok, i thought that these were being put somewhereelse forsomereason.NN
> Well, just as I thought, ppp is not started on the
> To see N last lines do: tail -N /var/log/messages
> Well, just as I thought, ppp is not started on the other end.
> I suggest you to call this number in minicom, see the login: or
> something similar prompt, respond to them. You would see then
> some othe kind of prompt, like "BLA-BLA>>" or so
It just occurred to me that I haven't set anything for PPP to tell it an
initial route to the world, other than including the nameserver IP's in
/etc. Is there something I should be setting in /etc/options_out?
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> From the log you included in your message I see that another peer
> does not respond to anything except echo-requests. I don't know what
> stage you are on though, could you please send the complete log.
> (I don't see, for example, how pap authorization came through)
Without the debugging, It
I've bumped the debug level, as suggested. It gives me all kinds of
messages, which make absolutely no sense to me :( I've clipped them, in
pieces (still haven't figured out how to increase plog's length).
This all is after the notice that the ppp connection has been made, but
before it works.
trying again; i'mdialed in on a horrible university network . . .
george bonsur wrote,
> On 15-Nov-97 Rick Hawkins wrote:
> > I can't quite get this combination to work.
> > changing /etc/ppp/pap so that the last line is now
> > hawk * mypassword
> Don
> > I can't quite get this combination to work.
> > changing /etc/ppp/pap so that the last line is now
> > hawk * mypassword
> Don't you mean pap-secrets?
err, yes :)
> > I commented out the "expect ogin:" and "expect word:" ion
> > ppp.chatscript, which instead gives me an alarm and a failu
I can't quite get this combination to work.
My ISP uses PAP, and msoft's Internet Exporer connects rightout of the
box (well, if you consider the Dark Side as "working" . . . :).
I can dial up with pon, after:
putting the numbers in /etc/ppp.chatscript
adding "user hawk" to /etc/ppp.opetions_ou
Another way to solve that blinking problem is to boot up from floppy,
and edit /edc/X11/config to remove the "xdm start" line. Or login from
another machine, if it has a network connection.
rick
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I wish I knew enough about the details here to phrase this right, but
anyway:
I need to test software that uses a browser to control it. That is,
news & web accounts on the server are administratively controlled
through web pages from other machines. (the server runs apache).
To test this, I n
Joeey Hess wrote,
> My approach has been to add something like this to /etc/inittab:
>
> X:2:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/X -indirect
>
> Then you don't need to log into the local computer, X is started
> automatically on boot querying the server. And if X crashes, it is
> automatically restarted by
> > We'd like to set up some boxes that come up as xterminals, to be used on
> > the remote connections. I've found the -querey type options for startx,
> > but not for xdm. We really just want to turn old hardware into remote
> > heads on alphas. Can anyone make any suggestions?
>
> Let's cal
We'd like to set up some boxes that come up as xterminals, to be used on
the remote connections. I've found the -querey type options for startx,
but not for xdm. We really just want to turn old hardware into remote
heads on alphas. Can anyone make any suggestions?
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> I have tried to upgrade to the libc6 X. All was going alright apart from
> some ldso warnigs when I upgraded xlib6, most of which went away when I
> installed xlib6-altdev and installed xlib6g and xlib6g-dev. I upgraded
> all the other stuff and all seemed fine. Then I tried running X -query
>
I've just been given the goahead to take over a project, in which there
are linux boxes being used about the state as mail servers and mail
monitors.
Currently, it all works, but is a set of kluges running slackware.
Ultimately, the machines will be switched over to debian (or possibly
redhat, b
> Slap me if you've tried this, but turning numlock on in X does all sorts
> of funky things to alt and function keys. I often find (particularly
> using forms in netscape) that I turn on numlock, and then spend half an
> hour trying to figure out why my keyboard doesn't work anymore ... turn
>
There was some discussion of this a month or two ago, and I don't recall it
coming to a conclusion.
At times, the keystrokes for fvwm2 simply stop working. Particularly,
alt-arrow to shift virtual screens, alt-f9 (to icocnify) and the like, and teh
alt-click combinations to move windows forwa
has anyone converted the mit kerberos packages to debian? I've taken a couple
of not-so successful stabs (actually, for afs, but they're interwtined).
Alien reports a gaggle of "unusual executable locations" while executing.
Also, i'm worried about the lack of debian dependency information; as
rob writes,
> Rick Hawkins writes:
> > Has anyone else had a problem with this? It utterly hangs X, beyond
> > restarting X. I can still telnet in, but halting the xdm daemon &
> restarting
> > isn't enough to recover the keyboard. For that matter, it
Has anyone else had a problem with this? It utterly hangs X, beyond
restarting X. I can still telnet in, but halting the xdm daemon & restarting
isn't enough to recover the keyboard. For that matter, it requires an actual
power down (but there are some strange hardware problems on this beast
My X has died and won't come back. I had several windows open, making
lyx, running dselect, and a few windows on an alpha. Then I attempted
to try xfishtank, and the display froze. No mouse, no keyboard, no
nothing.
I telnetted to the alpha from another machine, and all of the jobs were
gone,
I think it's a hardware problem. attempting xfishtank repeatably causes the
problem again.
SHutting off power and restarting solves it. Rebooting alone does not.
I'm just hoping this system stays in one piece long enough for the shuttle 603
to actually be availalbe for purchase . . . on a
remove
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On a similar vein, has anyone managed to make debian & kerberos machines talk
this way?
mit has .rpm packages of kerberos & afs. However, alien gives plenty of
"nonstandard executable location" errors when converting. Also, kerberos
versions of some programs should (apparently) replace regul
> Xfs is running, but have you configured your xserver to use it? I did it by
> modifying my XF86Config, commenting out my old FontPath, and adding:
>
> # Use font server.
> FontPath "tcp/localhost:7100"
This seems to do it. Shouldn't the configuration program have done this when
it a
I'm having a devil of a time getting this set up right; I'm not sure
that I'm following the instructions properly.
I have a debian 1.3 system.
I've set up smail as "satellite," with eyry.econ.iastate.edu as the
identifier for mail from my system, and iastate.edu as the correct reply
to system.
As near as I can tell, x is not using xfs. This is a poor little 486/33, and
the documentation for lyx uses postscript fonts which call for rendering. It
substantially pauses for a few minutes while doing so.
(when this has been hashed out before, it seems to have to do with the xserver
bein
In one of those strange turns of events, a professor here has hired me to
consult for his computer chain on Linux. Having twins on the way, I'll take
the extra couple of hundred a month.
Anyway, the systems are remote; they are mail servers for schools throughout
the state. They seem to have
> >Sometime after I first started talking with the press about i2o,
> >someone pointed out that the i2o group had left their standard document
> >(about 500 pages) on their anonymous FTP server. Wired News published
> >the URL, and thousands of people downloaded copies of the i2o standard
> >befor
bruce wrote,
>
> We want it to be easy for people to upgrade. However, it's currently
> difficult for people who had 1.1 on their systems to upgrade to 1.3,
> because the best way to do this was to install 1.2 and then 1.3 . You can
> go straight from 1.1 to 1.3, but I hear this is much more diffi
john wrote,
> This is the part that baffles me. Do you really believe that users who
> won't buy 1.3.1 because 1.3.2 is out will buy 1.3 revision 1 after 1.3
> revision 2 comes out?
actually, yes. I know the schemes are identical, but I think that "revision"
off to the side doesn't sound as m
jan vroonhof wrote,
> Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 3) Liability. The corporation is legally a person. If someone got
> >the bright idea to sue Debian (for whatever reason, including
> >frivolous), individuals would be liable without inco
Dave Cinege wrote,
> Yes you have. I'm saying the work done be the people outside the US is now
> asscoiated with a US entity. It's not 'theirs' anymore, while it is in the US.
this is not true, in any sense of the word. The difference between debian
unincorporated or incorporated makes absol
bruce wrote,
> From: Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > However, were an individual programmer to incure liability (the only
> > way I can think of off hand is by deliberately caused harm, such as
> > sneaking in a disk eraser), the corporation won't protect
bruce wrote,
> 2. Please don't start with the assumption that I am a corporate robber
>baron whenever you argue about Debian policy.
2a) If you do make this assumption, please send him enough money to act like
one. Say, Stanford's endowment . . .
:)
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> > They could have not followed anything past the guy that caused it.
> > Now they can.
> With all due respect, I think you have it backwards. Now, the
> corporation protects not just those beyond the guy that caused the
> problem. It even protects that particular guy.
you are correct.
Howev
I've tried to solve this from the faq, but it only hints at solutions.
1)
exmh: Scanning for nested folders ...
BgRegister X server insecure (must use xauth-style authorization); command
ignored
The faq refers to recompiling over xauthority. I seriously doubt this is
necessary (or, there woul
I'm trying to get exmh running, but am running into multiple troubles. The
faw hints at solutions, but . . .
1) BgRegister X server insecure (must use xauth-style authorization); command
ignored
the faq says that this is usually a problem with TK
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> >One of the reasons is that when people make a donation, it could be
> >tax deductable. Right now it is not. We have to get 501(c)3 status
> >with the US IRS first.
> Why? Of what intestest is that to the people that don't live in the USA.
and of what harm? if there's enough interest from ou
On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:28:10 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
> The purpose behind the official incorporation for Debian is still beyand me,
> and the more I think about it I don't like it. The project (like linux) has
> > always been for freeholders all over the world. Why the US government
>
On this machine, I found it easier to adjust the monitor than xvidtune. It
stores 10 or so custom settings, so it automatically returns to the correct
configuration.
rick
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> fortran (77) is horrible. Well, it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, etc. But we
> are in the end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* profs were forcing
> students to use it!)
> You will be much better writing your code in ANSI C (pointers aren't difficult
> once you get to know them).
I don'
> "unreleased-1.3" and "unreleased-2.0" would be more useful and less
> confusing.
but not nearly so cool :)
besides, this way they stay buzz, bo, hamm, etc. after release, and the
symlinks for stable & unstable are just changed.
rick
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