Re: Fingerprint recognition (on power button)

2020-10-05 Thread Renato Gallo
https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/enable-fingerprint-scanner-support-on-linux/ Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: rhkra...@gmail.com To: "debian-user" Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 4:00:47 PM Subject: Fingerprint recognition (on power button) I am thin

Re: BITTE BESTÄTIGEN SIE DIE MITTEILUNG

2020-06-18 Thread Renato Gallo
WHAT ??? - Original Message - From: "ANSHULA KANT (World Bank Group)" To: "debian-user" Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:50:58 AM Subject: BITTE BESTÄTIGEN SIE DIE MITTEILUNG Achtung: Begünstigter, Möglicherweise verstehen Sie nicht, warum diese E-Mail zu Ihnen kam. Eine gemeinsame Sit

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Renato Gallo
Rly, systemd is, between things, a way to be sure when and after what something starts isn't it ? - Messaggio originale - Da: "Reco" A: "debian-user" Inviato: Lunedì, 23 marzo 2020 9:27:29 Oggetto: Re: Buster without systemd? Hi. On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Renato Gallo
linux without systemd = race condition risks = why in hell anyone would want to do it ? - Messaggio originale - Da: "Felix Miata" A: "debian-user" Inviato: Lunedì, 23 marzo 2020 8:08:28 Oggetto: Re: Buster without systemd? Marc Shapiro composed on 2020-03-22 18:21 (UTC-0700): > afte

Re: FOSS friendly PDA?

2020-02-18 Thread Renato Gallo
What's the use of a PDA in the smartphones era ? Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Brian" To: "debian-user" Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:56:12 PM Subject: Re: FOSS friendly PDA? On Mon 17 Feb 2020 at 09:27:19 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

2020-02-06 Thread Renato Gallo
try iscan or simple-scan Renato Gallo From: "kaye n" To: "debian-user" Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 3:36:11 AM Subject: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson Hello Friends! I'm running: Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4

Re: installazione

2019-12-13 Thread Renato Gallo
mailing list "debian-user" ; non inviare al mio indirizzo personale From: "santambrog" To: "renato" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 1:59:32 PM Subject: Re: installazione Non riesce a trovare depmod Sergio santambrogio Messaggio originale ---

Re: installazione

2019-12-13 Thread Renato Gallo
write on the mailing list we reply From: "santambrog" To: "renato" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 1:11:41 PM Subject: Re: installazione Desktop credo kde Sergio dott santambrogio Messaggio originale Da: Renato Gallo Data: 13/12/19

Re: installazione

2019-12-13 Thread Renato Gallo
che desktop manager hai ? gnome kde o.. From: "santambrog" To: "renato" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 12:38:55 PM Subject: Re: installazione Sto usando quello che hai scritto Sergio santambrogio Messaggio originale Da: Renato Gallo

Re: installazione

2019-12-13 Thread Renato Gallo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BcO90Byf18 From: "renato" To: "santambrog" Cc: "debian-user" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 12:26:09 PM Subject: Re: installazione stai usando vmware workstation ? From: "santambrog" To: "renato&q

Re: installazione

2019-12-13 Thread Renato Gallo
stai usando vmware workstation ? From: "santambrog" To: "renato" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 12:15:04 PM Subject: Re: installazione Salve Io non so installare vmware tools Sergio Sergio dott santambrogio Messaggio originale Da: Renato

Re: Replacement for lineakd?

2019-12-04 Thread Renato Gallo
apt-file search xbindkeys root@azrael:~# Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "The Wanderer" To: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 3:14:03 PM Subject: Re: Replacement for lineakd? On 2019-12-04 at 09:03, Stephan Seitz

Re: Replacement for lineakd?

2019-12-04 Thread Renato Gallo
apt-cache policy xbindkeys xbindkeys: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "renato" To: "The Wanderer" Cc: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 3:15:41 PM Subject: Re: Replacement

Re: Signs of hard drive failure?

2019-10-22 Thread Renato Gallo
Always keep a bootable usb of gparted on a chain on your neck it might save you if/when s**t hits the fan get it here [ https://gparted.org/download.php | https://gparted.org/download.php ] Renato Gallo From: "Ken Heard" To: "debian-user" Sent: Tuesday, October

cannot change gdm3 background

2019-09-26 Thread Renato Gallo
econds before suspending with AC power # 1200=20 minutes, 0=never # sleep-inactive-ac-timeout=1200 # - What to do after sleep-inactive-ac-timeout # 'blank', 'suspend', 'shutdown', 'hibernate', 'interactive' or 'nothing' # sleep-inactive-ac-type='suspend' # - As above but when on battery # sleep-inactive-battery-timeout=1200 # sleep-inactive-battery-type='suspend' Renato Gallo

Re: Debian Buster update error

2019-09-26 Thread Renato Gallo
This email read confirmation is really annoying Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: c...@riseup.net To: "debian-user" Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:58:28 PM Subject: Re: Debian Buster update error On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 07:59:21AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez w

Re: Upgrading point release from 10 to 10.1

2019-09-20 Thread Renato Gallo
Off topic it is indeed but... local ? Gene have you got the slightest idea on how much who gets elected in the US and his/her ideas and plans has impacts on the whole world ? With such a great power it wouldn't be unfair to make everyone in the world vote for the US president. - Origi

Re: Gimp crash on screenshot debian bullseye

2019-09-18 Thread Renato Gallo
Opened https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/3955 bug report upstream Renato Gallo System Engineer sede legale e operativa: Via Privata Cefalonia, 14 - 20156 - Milano (MI) Tel. +39 02 - 87049490 Fax +39 02 - 48677349 Mobile. +39 342 - 6350524 Wi | FreeNumbers: https://freenumbers.way

Gimp crash on screenshot debian bullseye

2019-09-18 Thread Renato Gallo
() from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #34 0x7f79a1dfdf82 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #35 0x55b3f6103d7e in app_run () No symbol table info available. #36 0x000055b3f61036

Gimp crash on screenshot debian bullseye

2019-09-18 Thread Renato Gallo
what I wrote is not - Original Message - From: "Jonas Smedegaard" To: "MMIROJV" , "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 2:46:38 PM Subject: Re: Gimp crash on Open File | Kali Linux XFCE Quoting MMIROJV (2019-09-18 13:55:04) > [lots of debug noise but no question or othe

Re: Gimp crash on Open File | Kali Linux XFCE

2019-09-18 Thread Renato Gallo
GIMP crash on taking a screenshot ``` GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.10.8 git-describe: GIMP_2_10_6-294-ga967e8d2c2 C compiler: Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/lto-wrapper OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none:hsa OFFLOAD_TARGE

Re: A followup on github discussion

2019-07-26 Thread Renato Gallo
The solution should be easy as cake, host our own git server ;) Renato Gallo System Engineer sede legale e operativa: Via Privata Cefalonia, 14 - 20156 - Milano (MI) Tel. +39 02 - 87049490 Fax +39 02 - 48677349 Mobile. +39 342 - 6350524 Wi | FreeNumbers: https://freenumbers.way

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
http://www.eldy.eu/software/download/ Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: andreimpope...@gmail.com To: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:33:44 PM Subject: Re: How to have password shown? On Mi, 03 iul 19, 14:17:34, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Thanks for

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by shoulder surfing my fingerprint reader ;) Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Carl Fink" To: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:10:18 PM Subject: Re: How to have password sh

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
Fingerprints are a good option Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Jonas Smedegaard" To: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:00:04 PM Subject: Re: How to have password shown? Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-07-03 14:12:22) > On Wed, Jul 03, 2

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
You forgot the "probably sharing" part of the message. You forgot that Rasbian is Debian for Raspberry pi + Desktop autologin by default (without the research and config part). You forgot that Raspberry is really cheap. Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Nico

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
than a computer they are probably sharing). Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Nicolas George" To: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:44:44 PM Subject: Re: How to have password shown? Renato Gallo (12019-07-03): > Raspberry pi's Raspbian h

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
Raspberry pi's Raspbian has X without password by default. The new board raspberry 4 is out with 4 gigs and a better cpu (I have preordered it for around 60 € from melopero shop). Might be a nice solution for the old father. Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Håkon

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
You did but nevertheless to give such an option would be a bad idea (someone could be crazy enough to be tempted to use it). Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "Rodolfo Medina" To: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:26:24 PM Subject: Re: How to

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
If you are living alone in a bunker under an alien planet surface ok "shoulder surfing is not an issue" Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: "tomas" To: "renato" Cc: "Rodolfo Medina" , "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
and that's s good security-wise Renato Gallo - Original Message - From: to...@tuxteam.de To: "Rodolfo Medina" Cc: "debian-user" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:12:22 PM Subject: Re: How to have password shown? On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +0

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-03 Thread Renato Gallo
one of the worst ideas I've ever heard since 1974 read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder_surfing_(computer_security) Renato Gallo System Engineer sede legale e operativa: Via Privata Cefalonia, 14 - 20156 - Milano (MI) Tel. +39 02 - 87049490 Fax +39 02 - 48677349 Mobile. +3

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-06 Thread Renato Gallo
openjdk 11 is not bad Renato Gallo System Engineer sede legale e operativa: Via Privata Cefalonia, 14 - 20156 - Milano (MI) Tel. +39 02 - 87049490 Fax +39 02 - 48677349 Mobile. +39 342 - 6350524 Wi | FreeNumbers: https://freenumbers.way-interactive.com Wi | SMS: https://sms.way

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Renato Gallo
I personally use pulse on chrome and firefox without problems of any sort Renato Gallo System Engineer sede legale e operativa: Via Privata Cefalonia, 14 - 20156 - Milano (MI) Tel. +39 02 - 87049490 Fax +39 02 - 48677349 Mobile. +39 342 - 6350524 Wi | FreeNumbers: https://freenumbers.way

kamailio 5 modules missing on latest buster

2019-05-31 Thread Renato Gallo
Hello, I need all Kamailio 5 modules to be present in the repo (first of all the app-java built with openjdk 11.0.3 2019-04-16 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 11.0.3+1-Debian-1 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0.3+1-Debian-1, mixed mode, sharing) please help Renato Gallo

Samba 3.6.6 - Debian 7

2013-05-28 Thread Marcos Renato da Silva Junior
Hi, I use Samba + Ldapas a domain controller but after the update the version of Debian6 to Debain 7I can't authenticate my users in the Samba server. logs: [2013/05/23 08:29:55.811240, 1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3) The primary group domain sid(S-1-5-21-3651478259-41215784

Problem with SID after upgrade for samba 3.6.6

2013-05-24 Thread Marcos Renato da Silva Junior
Hi, After upgrading debian 6 to version 7 samba stopped working properly. Log: [2013/05/23 08:29:55.811240, 1] auth/server_info.c:386(samu_to_SamInfo3) The primary group domain sid(S-1-5-21-3651478259-4121578499-3132057975-513) does not match the domain sid(S-1-5-21-3182595135-1874831366-4

Re: Wheezy. Xorg failure at AMD Brazos netbook

2012-07-08 Thread Renato
Leonid Korostyshevski gmail.com> writes: > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Bob homeurl.co.uk> wrote: > On 02/01/2012 03:48 PM, Leonid Korostyshevski wrote: > Hello, list! > Have installed Wheezy weekly build 30-01-2012 but cannot log into a > fresh system: there is just a noise on a screen

CIFS mount (error -11) - Unable to access the Windows shares

2010-12-01 Thread Renato S . Yamane
failed w/return code = -11 Best regards, Renato S. Yamane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1291243865572238...@webmail.mandic.com.br

Renato Oliveira de Souza Oliveira convidou você para abrir uma conta de e-mail do Google

2008-02-05 Thread Renato Oliveira de Souza Oliveira
I wish to use Latex in environment linux. Do you know samethink about it? or Do you know can'i help me? Regards Renato. --- Renato Oliveira de Souza Oliveira convidou você para abrir uma conta grátis do Gmail. Para aceitar

request for addition in debian-user

2008-01-28 Thread Renato Oliveira de Souza Oliveira
Hi, coleagues, I' m needing to confirm my subscrition who is. Best regards, Renato

Re: Black screen before login

2007-05-01 Thread Renato Gondim Filho
I tried putting the follow along the xorg.conf: date >> /tmp/res.txt But didn't work. I'll look for something like that, and tell the result. Thanks! Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: On Tue, 1 May 2007 11:21:40 -0300 (ART) Renato Gondim Filho wrote:

Re: Black screen before login

2007-05-01 Thread Renato Gondim Filho
; Pressed ctrl+alt+F1, the command line appears, with the text of the Xorg.0.log printted in the screen. Repeat the command, many times, same result. Thanks, again. Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: On Tue, 1 May 2007 08:37:33 -0300 (ART) Renato Gondim Filho wrote: &g

Re: Black screen before login

2007-05-01 Thread Renato Gondim Filho
or directory) It could be this? Thanks. Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:15:47 -0300 (ART) Renato Gondim Filho wrote: > Sorry about my ignorance, some conventions I don't know well (yeat), > but "virtual console" means a comman

Re: Black screen before login

2007-04-29 Thread Renato Gondim Filho
Sorry about my ignorance, some conventions I don't know well (yeat), but "virtual console" means a command line in Terminal? If it´s correct, I should do this: tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log Thanks. Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08

Re: Black screen before login

2007-04-28 Thread Renato Gondim Filho
-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts Is there any log file to look for? Thanks. Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:11:42 -0300 (ART) Renato Gondim Filho wrote: > Hi list. > > I have some computers running Debian, and one of them (pentium > 300m

Black screen before login

2007-04-27 Thread Renato Gondim Filho
Hi list. I have some computers running Debian, and one of them (pentium 300mhz, 396 MB RAM), in the starting, before the desktop login appears, a black screen appears for 3 minutes. The hd doesn't work during this black screen. I tried other desktop (IceWm, blackbox) and the result is the

xscreensaver and DPMS

2006-11-16 Thread Renato
l of a sudden - apparently not connected to reboot or shutdown - I come home to find the backlight on again... Goblins in the computer, or am I missing something? Renato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Courier IMAP POP on Debian Sarge

2006-08-23 Thread Renato Otranto Jr.
Hello, I am configuring courier imap/pop on a debian sarge and it must authenticate against an Active Directory, through authdaemon ldap module. I am trying to connect the pop server in several ways: 1) using the courierauthtest 2) using the telnet localhost 25 command 3) using a email client f

modules in 2.6.xx

2006-05-28 Thread Renato Serodio
nters to understand module loading in the 2.6 kernels, where to RTFM, or anything else that comes to your mind. Cheers, Renato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Installing Debian Etch from DVD

2006-04-30 Thread Renato S. Yamane
. Then, Debian Installer don´t found a mirror, don´t get IP by DHCP (because is not conect in network) and I can´t continue the installation. My God! 11Gb of files is not enough? How can I install Debian from DVD? Please, somebody can help-me? Thanks, Renato S. Yamane BRAZIL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

apt-get, sudo and proxies

2006-04-06 Thread Renato Serodio
root, and call synaptic or dselect it goes, but otherwise just complains it can't connect to the repository. Well, other programs, such as the CPAN shell through perl still works, so I'll assume it's really something to do with sudo. Would anyone care to comment?Cheers,Renato

Re: loading modules (or not!)

2006-03-02 Thread Renato Serodio
I did install modconf, but it was actually made redundand by the new module-init-tools architecture: you'll notice it will write to /etc/modules, which appears to be there for backward compatibility.

loading modules (or not!)

2006-03-02 Thread Renato Serodio
it would involve some file in modprobe sintax, but which? Regards, Renato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Renato Serodio
#x27;re either outdated or don't work as advertised. Or it might be simply I'm missing something. Would anyone lend a hand?Renato

Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Renato Serodio
Oh, I forgot about the xorg.conf file.. # xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, Section "Module" Load"GLcore" Load"bitmap" Load"dbe" Load"ddc" Load

Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Renato Serodio
drm' and 'agpart'. 'radeon' is also around. I'll have a got compiling everything into the kernel to see if it comes out different this time.Again on the fps matter, there are some people saying that one should tax the board with Quake3 or Unreal Tournament demos to get a proper benchmark. Regards,Renato

XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-08 Thread Renato Serodio
Hello all,my 3D plots were rather slow, and I decided to check:$> glxinfodirect rendering: NoWell, I dug and dug, and here's what I got:For a functional Hardware Acceleration with Radeon 9200/9000: - agp, intel-apg (or other), drm and radeon drivers- glx, dri and radeon modules loaded from RadeonBu

Re: resolvconf difficulties

2005-12-19 Thread Renato Serodio
Hello Michael, I did go into laptop-net, but decided on taking guessnet instead. At the time, I not running any, since I only jump between these two nets. Resolvconf is indeed recommended by a series of packages I use, and it addresses my needs, that's why I stick to it. Renato -

Re: resolvconf difficulties

2005-12-19 Thread Renato Serodio
Hello Michael, I did go into laptop-net, but decided on taking guessnet instead. At the time, I not running any, since I only jump between these two nets. Resolvconf is indeed recommended by a series of packages I use, and it addresses my needs, that's why I stick to it. Renato -

resolvconf difficulties

2005-12-19 Thread Renato Serodio
. Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong here? I read through the help file and checked the scripts that could change resolv.conf - they appear to be peaceful. Regards, Renato -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDpq/Dt5wH978OCmoRAoVbAKCeqvp0NUtb9TOVT/D4

resolvconf difficulties

2005-12-19 Thread Renato Serodio
ow what I might be doing wrong here? I read through the help file and checked the scripts that could change resolv.conf - they appear to be peaceful. Regards, Renato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

patching debian source: fails!

2005-12-19 Thread Renato Serodio
king the changed sources, but to no avail. So I was wondering if you could explain what I'm missing. RTFM hasn't been very helpful.. Regards, Renato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

patching debian source: fails!

2005-12-19 Thread Renato Serodio
packing the changed sources, but to no avail. So I was wondering if you could explain what I'm missing. RTFM hasn't been very helpful.. Regards, Renato -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDpq0Bt5wH978OCmoRAk0IAJ4x/xmgRXV5sIo6u8NbadQDI/5AsQCffO9

Internet Express

2002-10-21 Thread Renato
Olá, conheça o negócio mais rentável da internet. Visite: http://www.hbncamp3.cjb.net Renato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Frame buffer devices on unconventional monitor

2000-08-07 Thread Renato Carmo
ion of adjusting parameters, I couldn't go any farther. At the end of this mail you can find the output of the script above for several runs. I'll really appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks in advance! -- ---

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1999-10-27 Thread Renato Sapienza
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HP 692C Configuration

1999-10-07 Thread Renato Braga de Lima Guedes
or if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks, Renato Guedes

-y option in apt-get

1999-07-15 Thread Renato Katsuragawa
his can be done without any configuration. Thanks Renato K

Installation of Adaed.tar.z

1997-11-08 Thread renato . barrios
I have linux in my Pc and I started to study ADA for an informatical cours of Algorithmics and Programmation. I have Adaed.tar.z in a cdrom I bought with Le Grand Livre Linux by Micro Application (Data Becker GMBH & Co KG) 1997 and I began to learn step by step. When I go to README in /cdrom/devel/