Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-26 Thread Number Six
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 07:01:50AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Emma Jane Kent - Cool. And I'm flattered . . . > (there goes that politically incorrect '60s throwback again . . .) Actually the 60s parallel may be pretty on-topic here: the way women were treated in the Berkley radical movements, the

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:45:28PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Monique Y. Herman: > > > > sore point for me at the moment. I'm pretty sure I'll be changing my > > name to make him happy, but it weirds me out. I never fantasized about > > Why?!? Tell him to change his own damn name

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 01:49:09PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-03-25, Kent West penned: > > get some flowers from their men (whereas most men getting flowers > > would think, "um, okay"). But just because women are different than > Actually, whenever I've sent flowers to a guy, they'v

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 12:56:27PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-03-25, Number Six penned: > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 01:30:15PM +, timg wrote: > >> find that I do have a certain amount of trepidation when posting > >> technical difficulties. I dont know

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:13:09AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-03-25, Number Six penned: > > > > The tune "Man Smart, Women Smarter" seems appropriate to bring up > > here: > > http://dannyman.toldme.com/lyrics/Grateful_Dead/Man_Smart,_Women_Smar

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:51:19AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-03-25, Number Six penned: > > > > I always thought Monique was a guy. I think what happened was I saw > > "Herman" and subconsciously said: Oh yeah, Monique, that's a guy's > &

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 01:16:15AM +1100, Tom Massey wrote: > Unless the brazen evil fuctardedness displayed by Gooble's minions is > stamped upon soon with a salted rubber wellington, then I expect that > intelligent life on Earth will cease even earlier than the most > pessimistic slug could have

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 01:30:15PM +, timg wrote: > find that I do have a certain amount of trepidation when posting > technical difficulties. I dont know why tho. > probably looking an ass in public when you discover the answer was right > under your nose (and fifty people point it out) is t

Re: switching window managers and session managers - update-alternatives ?

2004-03-25 Thread Number Six
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 04:55:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > option as I believe is the case with some other login screens. I am also > > interested in eliminating the graphical login as well, and logging in > > initially to a console and starting x from there. I would appreciate

Re: debian and women? from DWN #10

2004-03-24 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 06:31:23PM +1100, Rebecca Dridan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:10:56PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > Any women out there? Have you found debian and/or other OSS or > > technical groups to be difficult, possibly because you're female? > I've never found any probl

[OT] Can't find on Google: How can I determine path to binary in gcc?

2004-03-24 Thread Number Six
What is the canonical way to determine *my* application's truepath in Posix? Bash's $0 seems to do it, but after reading the sourcecode for coreutils all I can see is: (1) If argv[0] starts with a "/", use that. (2) If not, search the path for argv[0]. If found, use that. (3) Otherwise, use "c

Re: [OT] Microsoft's teeny punishment by the EU

2004-03-24 Thread Number Six
> The headline was "War on Windows"! As a sociological phenomenon, the whole "let's sue Microsoft" gestalt smacks of petulance: far and away the Internet primarily serves humanity as a provider of jerk-off material. Oh! Myrtle! Save us! We simply *must* fix this horror of horrors! The big b

Re: [OT] Microsoft's teeny punishment by the EU

2004-03-24 Thread Number Six
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:30:00AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Christian Schnobrich wrote: > >Forcing MS to simply make it public would effectively nationalize some > >of MS' assets -- I doubt that such a step would be legally possible in > >the EU. > > Then what, exactly, does one call nationa

Re: [OT] Microsoft's teeny punishment by the EU

2004-03-23 Thread Number Six
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 10:23:24PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Lou writes: > > They may not like it, however, with over $50 billion in cash reserves > > paying a $600 million fine is sort of like a normal person paying a > > speeding ticket. > > A $5000 speeding ticket. I had an unusual experienc

[OT] Microsoft's teeny punishment by the EU

2004-03-23 Thread Number Six
Even though I still have a bunch of stock, and I'm a linux lover now, so I cheer if it goes up and I cheer if it goes down, I was expecting Europe to really nail Microsoft to the wall. I dunno, I expected some surrogate America-bashing, or just a really f-you to an American company. Even thou

convert pdf to image [was Re: package search]

2004-03-22 Thread Number Six
> Paul Yeatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bonus question (and the reason I'm trying to search for more than > > one word in Debian package descriptions): is there any tool that > > someone knows of to convert a PDF to an image. According to one of imagemagick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Correct terminology of an "extracted, not installed" binary package

2004-03-22 Thread Number Six
If I have run "dpkg -x foo.deb .", would I describe the package as a) uninstalled b) unpacked and uninstalled c) extracted and uninstalled d) extracted I think "unpacked" has a specific meaning (the state it's in during an installation) so it's not b, but I'm not sureed. Is "extracted" a commo

Curl script for Online Banking access?

2004-03-20 Thread Number Six
I could probably write this, but it would super-cool if I could use Curl to automate a Online Banking Session with my bank. I'd need to trick it into thinking I was using a recent Mozilla, it probably checks for that. (1) Does this already exist? (2) Can you think of any potential security or f

Re: how to export messages from outlook express

2004-03-20 Thread Number Six
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:20:17PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > root wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of > >messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian > >Evolution right now. > >I need suggestions on how to do it.

xmldiff

2004-03-17 Thread Number Six
Is there a Debian package similar to xmldiff: http://www.logilab.org/projects/xmldiff That will output the "logical differences" between two xml files? Or something that formats XML in a uniform way so diff would be useful? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Unusual entity ™ in man page output; how to view it

2004-03-17 Thread Number Six
dh_make generates a template manpage.xml which can be run through xsltproc using /usr/share/sgml/docbook/stylesheet/xsl/nwalsh/manpages/docbook.xsl to produce a manpage which may be viewed with "nroff -man". The input Debian produces the output: Debian™ My locale is "en_US". I assume this charac

Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

2004-03-16 Thread Number Six
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:35:11AM -0300, Christoph Simon wrote: > You are kidding, right? You can't be that ignorant. Bombing Dresden > and Nuking Japan didn't change anything. Sure, a decade for a Beevor, Antony The Fall of Berlin 1945 It is fascinating to read about the Volkstuurm. 13-year ol

Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

2004-03-16 Thread Number Six
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 01:25:12PM +0100, Simmel wrote: > most hopefully we won't need another bomb attack for that. Besides the > opinion I have, is pretty common with most people here in Germany, because > we learned our "history" lesson. Yes, we taught you a lesson by Firebombing Dresden and Nu

Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

2004-03-16 Thread Number Six
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:53:41PM +0100, Simmel wrote: > Think about that for a second before flaming me! THX! You're totally missing the point about what's bothering me: We knew all this about [90% of Spain] before Thursday. The polls showed the Popular Party ahead by 5 or 6 % points, and the

Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

2004-03-16 Thread Number Six
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:28:50PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 02:55:01PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > > I know y'all are going to crucify me for this but Spain capitulating to > > terrorism is really burning me up. You can rationalize it all you want,

[40311.nospam@comcast.net: Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft]

2004-03-15 Thread Number Six
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 01:20:24AM +, Pedro M. wrote: > There is a lot of injustices, specially the famine, that generates > ignorance, fanatism and wars. There is a conflict between civilizations > (specially with the islam civilization). Why ??. The answers can help to > solve it Good luc

Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

2004-03-15 Thread Number Six
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:38:04AM +, Pedro M. wrote: > s. keeling escribió: > > >Incoming from Number Six: > > > > > >>I know y'all are going to crucify me for this but Spain capitulating to > >>terrorism is really burning me up. You can ra

Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

2004-03-15 Thread Number Six
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 04:21:16PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Number Six: > > > > I know y'all are going to crucify me for this but Spain capitulating to > > terrorism is really burning me up. You can rationalize it all you want, > > but mass m

Re: [OT]Europe Supports Antitrust Ruling Against Microsoft

2004-03-15 Thread Number Six
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 03:32:13PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > But the NYT is not the USGovt. Lieing to them is not a crime, even if your lies are > picked > up by Dept of Homeland Security. David Boies on Charlie Rose commenting on Martha Stewart 1 year ago, way before her conviction, offeri

Re: Next stable release: 13 CD's

2004-03-15 Thread Number Six
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:03:05PM +0100, Werner Mahr wrote: > in Example you need only to download one MTA, because of the conflicts. I > think you can save at least 2 CDs if you download only one of every > conflicting Package. A user might not know which she wants, first installing the one an

Re: Looking for nice, small display manager

2004-03-15 Thread Number Six
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:28:49AM +, Toby Batch wrote: > >On 13 Mar 2004, W. Borgert wrote: > >> > >>I'm looking for a nice display manager (for XFCE4). My > >>expectations are: > > Fluxbox. I moved to it a couple of years ago and can't leave it now. > It has features that the hefty wm's d

Re: Next stable release: 13 CD's

2004-03-14 Thread Number Six
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:50:57AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Did you see that in announce? The next stable release is 13 cd's. That > > just about prevents all people on 56kb modems (many in the so-called > > "third" world) from downloading them and will I ever see the set if I > > "or

Can I autogen Build-Depends like I can Depends, with shlibs?

2004-03-13 Thread Number Six
This is more of a -user question, but only devs would know: My dh_make -generated debian/control and debian/rules uses dh_shlibdeps to automatically generate the Depends: line, which rocks. Do I have to manually specify the Build-Depends line, or can it be automatically generated as well? --

Re: Caps lock problem

2004-03-11 Thread Number Six
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 04:00:56PM +1100, Colin Bell wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: N. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, 12 March 2004 15:46 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Caps lock problem > > > > > > * Slaanesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-12 00:00:

installing packages with dpkg as not-root

2004-03-11 Thread Number Six
Over on debian-devel, [http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/debian-devel-200403/msg00624.html], a thread got started about running "dpkg --force-not-root --root=`pwd`. I asked the diff. between that and just extracting it, and was told it would "update *a* (not *the*) package database). So

Re: Curious about AOL users and this list

2004-03-11 Thread Number Six
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 02:47:52PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:48:27AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > | From experience, it seems like everyone [...] emailing from aol.com > | has an IQ low enough that bricks are insulted by the comparison. > > I won't tell my

Re: Knoppix 3.3 beats Debian sid badly in glxgears

2004-03-10 Thread Number Six
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:54:43AM +0100, David Baron wrote: > I still have no DRI. Daenzer packages are hard enough to compile. A friend When people report glxgears framerates, are they reporting it with the small window that comes up by default? Or when the window is maximised? $ fglrxinfo d

OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT OT Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-08 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:37:43PM -0500, David Clymer wrote: > are physically unable to prevent yourself from starting or participating > in this type of thread, please put the conventional [OT] in the subject > line so that uninterested parties can easily filter it out. Hey, cool, I can do that.

Re: Debian OCR software that actually works?

2004-03-08 Thread Number Six
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 02:21:34PM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > True. Also easy for us to say, since we are not doing the coding. > Since no one pays 'em for the effort they put into the project, and > they need to put food on the table, things get split up accordingly. > > Some absolutely

Re: Debian OCR software that actually works?

2004-03-08 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 10:26:33PM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 06:59:58PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > > The output is horrible and unusable -- probably 40% of the text is > > misscanned. > > > it. I believe it is much more sensitive to things

Debian OCR software that actually works?

2004-03-07 Thread Number Six
I've got a very clean, large font plain-jane-as-they-come book I want to OCR. I've scanned it at grayscale and lineart at 150, 300, and 600 dpi res, and run it through GOCR. The output is horrible and unusable -- probably 40% of the text is misscanned. What up? And what can I do? -- To UN

Re: Hideously off-topic: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-07 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 03:37:32AM -0800, Number Six wrote: > Funny what pisses you off. Since y'all are all apparently going to write one of your oh-so-stinging little missives over your swooning-issue-of-the-moment, I might as well preemptively get this over with: Fuck you too,

Re: Hideously off-topic: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-07 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:19:34PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:39:33 -0800 > Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [incoherent babbling] > > Could it be that you're the first really dumb troll I've seen on this > list? Ther

Re: Hideously off-topic: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-07 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 10:22:57AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > > Keep Debian out of this. And for pity's sake pick a From: line and sti

Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:20:24PM -0500, Sean Donnelly wrote: > P.S. - This is also an opinion (so feel free to disagree, but please don't > call the FBI on me) but I believe that the concentric circles behind Bin > Lauden represent a bulls eye. If this is the case then it should now meet > your s

Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:43:15PM +1000, Peter A. Cole wrote: > In fact, I think you'll find the company's laughing because of this sudden increase > in interest of their website. Hey, I'm from the South: there are a lot of people who like the Confederate Flag, tattoos of Swatiskas, burning cro

Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 03:11:57AM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > > > > Frys carries the Sunbeam tech "EL-Case badge" case light products. &

Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:54:39PM +1100, Mathew Meins wrote: > The Bin Laden one appears to ridicule him, from what I can see at the URL you > posted. I really don't know what you're complaining about. The Saddam one has a big nose and looks like a caricature. What feature of the Bin Laden one i

Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm Frys carries the Sunbeam tech "EL-Case badge" case light products. They do not carry the Osama Bin Laden logo, but you can see it on the back of the "ordinary" images as a choice. I compained to Frys to at least modify the pac

Re: ATI drivers 3.7.0 for XFree 4.3 *just now* released?!?

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 03:03:58PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > I'm pretty sure "xv" used to work on my 9700 but now I've switched to a > 9800XT. I'll probably have to search the forums for spomething this > specific but do you have any insight about xv su

Re: ATI drivers 3.7.0 for XFree 4.3 *just now* released?!?

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:38:52PM -0500, Nick Lidakis wrote: > Number Six wrote: > >Why does ATI claim they are just now released, and what does Slashdot > >think so as well? > > Thanks for the excellent information, adding the list back in as they would also like to kn

Re: ATI drivers 3.7.0 for XFree 4.3 *just now* released?!?

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 02:21:32PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > Why does ATI claim they are just now released, and what does Slashdot > think so as well? Oh, and the upshot of the Slashdot post is these are the first OFFICIAL ATI drivers for XFree 4.3.0 --- but that's not true. I swea

ATI drivers 3.7.0 for XFree 4.3 *just now* released?!?

2004-03-06 Thread Number Six
What am I not getting? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/06/1436223&mode=nested http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html The release date for 3.7.0 on the ATI site is 3/2/04. But the fglrx-4.3.0-*_3.7.0-3_i386.deb .debs I downloaded from: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavi

Re: static ip to dhcp conversion -- getting a hostname

2004-03-05 Thread Number Six
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 03:16:34PM -0600, Alan Shutko wrote: > This is really a fairly common setup. As I mentioned, Windows and Mac > don't generally really care what the hostname associated with their IP > is. Few applications care. So DHCP servers just hand out IPs, and Not true for Windows.

Re: Newbies! please check this out -> http://www.aboutdebian.com/

2004-03-04 Thread Number Six
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 12:42:20AM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > I think Woody wins this one. Since my last apt-get upgrade a week or > so ago, and then installing Mozilla 1.0.0, I haven't seen Moz crash > once. However, for me, it's only a web browser. I don't use it for > anything else. I've bee