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I have an Intel NUC8i7HNK which does not boot Debian Stretch, testing
alpha3, or the latest testing nightly. I have gathered some pertinent
triage information which I won't bore everyone with here. My real
question is: How do I report this bug?
Thanks,
Tabor
Statement of Confidentiality
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Hello,
What I really want is for this to work (it works without the --source-dir):
mkdir packages && multistrap -f /usr/share/multistrap/stretch.conf -d
./chroot --source-dir ./packages > multistrap_log.txt 2>&1
However, apt-get fails to find the source packages, but I can't figure
out why. I c
I get these e-mails all the time that I do not send
On Saturday, August 5, 2017, 3:28:07 PM EDT, Sarah Chirikeni
wrote:
Now, I am dismayed as I don’t know will you want to chat to me?
http://bitly.com/2vAzp45
s mess up then so be it, but not feeling too well atm I've been
putting that off until I was feeling well enough.
Thanks in advance,
Kelly
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM, golinux wrote:
> Joey Hess is leaving Debian. Anybody have a context? Anything to do with
> the systemd controversy and the monolithic direction Debian is going?
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html
>
I mean, with all the fighting that
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> Does anybody know if Intel HD 4600 or higher is supported by Debian or
> distro?
>
> I have seen numerous postings about problems with Intel with Linux even with
> Ubuntu...
>
> Anybody using Intel on Debian?
I don't know where you have se
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 02 Sep 2014 at 14:21:06 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> Huh, and from this I just found that in Experimental there is a new
>> version of policykit-1 that depends on "systemd" directly and also...
>> libm
ge may vary.
Huh, and from this I just found that in Experimental there is a new
version of policykit-1 that depends on "systemd" directly and also...
libmozjs??? That sounds odd...
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in the kernel)
You say it does not work, how so? Do numlock etc lights toggle? Do any
other keys work? If it is graphical, can you get to the terminal and does
it work there?
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Either way, it just means less chance
of a false positive drive failure.
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ments, as it is just too much
effort to fight the inevitable there. Likewise, there
is little point fighting against bottom posting on a
technical list such as this one, where most everyone
prefers bottom posting. Especially since most
everywhere else they get top posting pushed on them,
probably making them cling harder to bottom posting
where they can.
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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> The usual objection to top posting is that it destroys the logical
> flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a
> conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). But I agree
> with you, and for years read my email i
"
If I leave X for one of the VTs, everything works fine - which is odd,
because console-setup and friends should (and did) make the config shared.
Also seems like grp:shift_toggle is not working now...
I am using Awesome WM, and I have Ibus running (Its settings look normal).
Oh, and with num lock off, the numpad arrow keys are fine.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Kelly
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Beco wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Thank you all for your valuable information and help!
>
> I just bought a black-only EPSON M105 inkjet printer, with WIFI.
>
> It printed perfectly!
>
> No cables needed, no CDs, nothing. Just energy, and the WPS botton to
> connect to m
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote:
> MP3 is notoriously bad for low Bitrate audio. Look at Opus and/or Speex
> encoding.
>
>
> On 12 September 2013 11:35, Long Wind wrote:
>
>> I use the command below:
>>
>> lame --mp3input --preset 30 input.mp3 output.mp3
>>
>> Thank you
r a user to customize the locations (since they are env vars, not
hardcoded). There is a little library as well to make things even
easier (libxdg-basedir).
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> I did follow that instructions and it worked for a while until a
> dist-upgrade some time ago. That is my problem. The libraries of Sid
> changed too often to keep the package 'skype' happy.
I haven't had an issue with having Skype:386 insta
RES and 5.3 GB VIRT (probably north of 200 tabs)
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onderfully well supported Open Source drivers (no closed
drivers at all).
If you do need more power, I personally would go with AMD a generation
back (OSS drivers). I am not willing to use closed drivers, both for
ideology and for the hassle the create with kernel updates...others
may disagree..
containing HTML and CSS files.
It is absolutely not (X)HTML, nor CSS (it is a zip file though). It is
XML. You might be thinking of .epub ebook format...
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Even as an atheist, I agree it is Wheezy ;-)
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Conrad Nelson wrote:
> On 06/17/2013 10:37 AM, Nikolas Kallis wrote:
>>
>> For God's sake, what is the nick name of my Debian? I am using Debian 7.0.
>>
>>
> For God's sake, it's Wheezy.
>
>
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D.
Hardware RAID cards typically have relatively huge chips with
heatsinks, battery-backed onboard ram, and cost $300+ new.
Go ahead and use software raid instead.
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On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>> DRM ebooks will not work that way (unless you strip them of course),
>> and the publishing industry has not yet followed the music industry on
>> DRM
>
> Anyone who runs Wine can install Adobe Digital Editions, which will allow
> download of c
create a kobobooks.com account. Lame.
I buy most of my books from there, so it isn't lame.
What is lame is how often sync and upgrades fails, especially (but far
from exclusively) on Wine. But I have rarely had any issue with the
simple mass storage aspect on Linux
t you use.
But Jitsi is a pretty good xmpp client (AV and even multiuser AV with
the right server) and runs on those three (and soon Android)
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curses
mode, mind you) and have never found a better way to manage my
packages. I use Unstable+Experimental and at times have mixed in
Ubuntu repos. I love flying through the dependency chains as fast as I
can think, and jumping around with vi-style searching. I think the
last time
ression "tighten up on your spending",
To me tighten up/tighten down means pull together, make things
ship-shape. It indicates improvement, whether that is up or down.
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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 02 May 2013 at 16:22:55 -0400, staticsafe wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote:
>> > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I did. How does it allow someone not run
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote:
>> > On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhăes wrote:
>> >
>> >> Since you didn't clarify what you mean by "alternative to Skype", i'll
>> >> go w
you can even do
multiperson video chat. There are also relays and failovers from xmpp
to sip if needed.
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I would use ext2 or 3 or 4
with out the journal, since it would eat up a bit of space on a small
partition. But that is it.
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:34:36 -0700
> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> >> DBus isn't a problem per se, it just can cause issues, when implemented
>> >> without thinking about the needs of all users?
>> &g
umb.
Are you sure about that? I have never seen anything dbus related in
any version of Mozilla or Firefox, aside from one extension that never
really when anywhere.
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have or want sshd, so push the reset button...)
Kind of silly thing to not want if you are testing things that make
your system inaccessible from the console.
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h CDE. Believe me, you don't want to deal with its
bullshit. And that is coming from a user/admin POV. From everything I
have heard it was worse for a programmer. I have done some simple Dbus
stuff in Python and such, it seems simple enough. I never want to have
to program any Corba...
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his is not a forum for FUD. Please
take it elsewhere.
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ould not even be very Lulz-worthy), and they would
certainly reference Anon, 4chan and or some 4chan meme as well as
using lolspeak. No, it looks like exactly what it is: the legitimate
admins when and changed the front page for some reason (in this case,
April Fools). Plenty of other sites
ubmit_urb(ctrl) failed
>
> Is there a way to figure out exactly what the chipset on the keyboard is, and
> maybe get this fixed?
> It's the "Windows Media pro USB keyboard" by Gearhead. Model# KB3600MPU.
lsusb -v
output for the keyboard is the starting place at least...
in, but still nothing from the X201 upon connecting
> the harddrive.
>
> Any thoughts on what the problem is or how I can diagnose it?
>
> Thanks for your time!
Have you tried it on different ports?
Do other USB devices (flash drives, keyboard/mouse, etc) work in the
port(s) you are try
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, David Baron wrote:
> This is supposed to be the fastest browser but not right now.
>
>
>
> Almost unusable. Rekonq and others do far better.
>
What is slow? Page rendering? Tab/window opening? interacting with the page?
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firefox -ProfileManager
You will get the profile manager window, please create a new one and
see if you have similar issues.
>
> Turn off JavaScript. If that is too invasive, install the Adblock Plus
> and NoScript extensions.
Ad-Block Plus and NoScript are always good ideas.
Chee
but it
still delivers the stream via Flash. And in general things are not
moving too fast right now.
> As for AIR... I can't think of a single Linux
> app I use that actually deployed it, except maybe Hulu Desktop (Did that use
> AIR?) So is that even a loss?
No loss
Cheers,
Ke
;Pepper"
plug-in APIs on platforms other than Linux.
Adobe will not be providing a Pepper-based debug player implementation
of the Flash Player browser plug-in on Linux.
As of Adobe AIR 3, Adobe has discontinued support for Adobe AIR for
Linux operating systems."
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either
have to SSH in from another computer or use the power button (soft off
or hard reset), as the X lock up prevented input from working (even
ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt-F1). A few times it managed to get the
kernel, and I could not SSH or soft off.
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good choice for your needs.
That is not remotely true. I hate Flash, but I need it. Linux works
great for my needs for many years now.
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> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 06:14:19PM +0200, David Baron wrote:
>> On Monday 11 March 2013 00:27:39 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > (Charles Kroeger, Sun Mar 10 20:57:18 2013)
>> > I got a Kobo Arc that runs A
id uses the Linux Kernel, but that is about it. It is not really
anymore closely related to Debian than to Fedora or Slackware.
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> On 03/10/2013 07:23 PM, Michael wrote:
>> My display is skewed to the right about 1/4 inch. While in a terminal
>> window, I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it comes back to the
>> prompt after about two seconds.
On 11 March 2013 00:02, Wayne Topa wrote:
> It would be h
ine them; rather FF and TB split Mozilla
(SeaMonkey) apart.
Mozilla Alpha/Beta/Nightly user since ~2001
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smaller netinst image on a system without a
> network. Using Expert mode and manual selections it was possible to
> install and avoid seeing any errors.
That is how I always install, I never install more packages than what
is on the netinst cd till after a reboot I guess I f
> I assumed you had a proxy somewhere, to which you were connecting.
>
>>
>> PS: by secure i meant not readable browsing history from my ISP.
>
> OK. In that case, con
>> Em 05-03-2013 15:30, Timothy Magee escreveu:
>> I like Debian because I can download the DVD's of the software and take it
>> home because I don't have internet at my house.
> On Tuesday 05 March 2013 19:59:03 João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> I mostly run Wheezy on my computers now. But if
On 5 March 2013 18:53, Andy Hawkins wrote:
> There's no date set yet. However, there's no reason why you can't install
> Wheezy now. Now that it's in freeze, it's pretty safe to use I'd have
> thought.
I've got two machines running Wheezy, and haven't experienced any
problems at all for months (s
On 5 March 2013 00:53, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:59:18AM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote:
>
> snip
>
>> I'd like to leave you with one reflection that may cause pause. If tomorrow
>> Debian were to suddenly become twice as popular as it currently is
Hi Miles,
>> He has managed to hog the whole list, and get a lot of technical
>> expertise for free, for days now - by displaying the attitude of a
>> particularly badly-behaved child.
>> What a d!ck.
> but it has been fascinating, in a train-wreck, troll-baiting kind of way :-)
Oh absolutely! I'
On 2 March 2013 10:58, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:32PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote:
>>
>> João, kindly stop responding to this thread. I want help, not noise.
>
> Bloody cheek!! Did you behave this way on other distro support lists?
Watching this from afar, what I find
On 28 February 2013 16:30, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Harvey Kelly wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>> Please, for your own sake, go to Linux Mint's site, grab an iso and
>> try that installation. 99% of hardware is fully supported with Mint -
>> at least try that. If something goes
On 28 February 2013 14:21, Martin McCormick wrote:
> There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings
> were one tale of woe after another...
Yes, this whole thread/tale is reminding me of when I first installed
a Linux system (SuSE 6.2, back in 1999). It took about 5 or 6 hours as
I
> On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 09:09 +, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Is it possible to make the fn key act as a control key inside of linux?
> (I'd like to keep the functions of the fn key combinations if
> possible).
Are the keys recognised? Have you checked?
When you run this command:
xev | grep -A2 --
On 27 February 2013 20:24, Mark Filipak wrote:
> What a nonsensical statement. I've never successfully installed any
> distribution of Linux
You fibber. You installed Squeeze on your amd64 machine according to
this thread (earlier this month):
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/02/msg0025
On 27 February 2013 17:49, Claudius Hubig wrote:
> Steven Grunza wrote:
>> Err http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/debian/ squeeze/main libpoppler5 powerpc
>> 0.12.4-1.2+squeeze1
>> 404 Not found
>> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
>> --fix-missing?
>
> try to restore backup but the e-mails didn't have restored
Ah, sorry. I didn't know you were already importing the backup in
maildir format. I do think this is an upstream problem too: I got so
frustrated last year I even installed Fedora and Arch, before
returning to Debian, all due to the pro
Hi Carlos,
> i'm having trouble updating my system to wheezy.
> I'm testing on VMs with disposable emails, but not having good results:
I had a similar problem going from Evolution 3.0 -> 3.4. Oddly there
was no such problem from 2.30 - > 3.0.
Evolution's mail is stored in maildir format - where
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 03:19:17PM -0500, frank ernest wrote:
> I have decided to use the various distros and seek out differences
> but this is an imperfect way of going about this so I am additionaly
> asking you.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/best-distro-2012.html
http://www.techsupport
Hi there,
> I'll look at Xfce4. Its for my wife, who works in an M$ environment,
> and is really accustomed to Ubuntu/Gnome2 as an alternative at home.
> (Unity is just not going to work out for her-I use fvwm2, myself; the
> lack of an icon/auto mount for fvwm2 and Enlightenment is kind of a
> sh
ething like vorbis on q4-q6 will give very good sound and give much
smaller size, if you don't mind lossy.
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.
1) untar it to the directory you want (I use /usr/local/lib/firefox)
2) optionally make a symlink to the "firefox" executable in the
install dir to "firefox" in /usr/local/bin or so, to be able to call
it without the path.
/root/firefox isn't a good place for it, bu
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 02:33 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> > Linux consumer audio :D. I wonder what's the cause for "Device or
>> > resource busy". It isn't. Linux pro-audio is easier to use.
>>
>
> Maybe I should read xmms2 manual
I would try: https://xmms2.org/wiki/Using_the_application
and also look at https://xmms2.org/wiki/FAQ#Troubleshooting
Try the cli client first, if you can get it working, then worry about
the gui clients.
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Hi Ralf,
On 12 February 2013 14:12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Btw. I experienced on other distros that PA today is easy to remove and
>> don't use a dummy package anymore
I've uninstalled pulseaudio - that went when I uninstalled Gnome -
sorry for any confusion (and yes, libpulse is indeed still in
Hello all,
After a full day's hard googling, I posted this to debian-laptop
yesterday, but haven't had a response, so maybe here is a more
appropriate place? Apologies in advance if not.
I'm running Wheezy and the multimedia/volume keys don't work in
Windowmaker (they work fine with Gnome and Xfc
Can you open up dconf-editor ('apt-get install dconf-tools' if it's
not installed), then use it to navigate to
'org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences theme', what does it say under
'theme'? (You can edit the value to 'ambiance' or whatever you want it
to run.
> I installed ambiance theme in wheezy (fro
make a second profile for
the other browser. If you want to have them match up in bookmarks and
so forth, you could use Firefox Sync.
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fully tested out my T61 yet.
Huh, hard to tell for sure but looks like the ALC883 does have
hardware mixing and multiple DACs.
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http://kb.mozillazine.org/Command_line_arguments
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On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 08:36:34AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:28 AM, "Morel Bérenger"
>> wrote:
>> >> Pure ALSA works fine if you only need one sound at a time and don&#x
;s
> sounds)
Nope, I am talking about ALSA. ALSA can only play more than one source
at a time with its dmix utility (ALSA itself is fundamentally unable
to do mixing) , but I have never, ever seen dmix work at all.
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FAIK. Anyway, it was
far buggier than PA ever was.
Pure ALSA works fine if you only need one sound at a time and don't
need/want stuff like per source volume, and don't mind Flash sometimes
messing up and blocking all access to the sound card.
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e pretty easy now, if you have Sid.
You need the new glibc from experimental. Then open of the newest
Steam .deb and edit the control file to get rid of Ubuntu's epoch of
1 on PulseAudio. Repack, install, run Steam once to update, and then
run it.
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have multiarch? Anyway, even if it did, it would be better in Precise. And
don't try both at once! In fact break into as many pieces as possible, I
would say. And don't try to rely on the apt/aptitude auto-solver. I would
just use aptitude in interactive mode and manually resolve issues
with the package manager, like when I combined
significant parts of Ubuntu (X and GTK) into my Debian install,
and later transitioned back to pure Debian.
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Pretty sure one reason they use .100.1 is to avoid stepping on the
toes of home routers, since they are often used together.
As far as settings, I think you have to hack it a bit to do that, if it
is possible at all. It is on some Motos, I know...
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to use 192.168.100.1
Actually, I think that might be semi-standard, at least try it. If it has snmp,
you could look for that with, say, nmap (assuming it is enabled)
http://serverfault.com/questions/415521/how-to-find-all-the-snmp-enabled-devices-in-my-network
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Monte Milanuk wrote:
> On 12/17/2012 08:03 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides
>> installation/removal of software, it does at least account management,
>> service management/c
dist=unstable;package=webmin>
And specifically http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897
So it was yanked from unstable at the beginning of 2006 and then
propagated down normally, with Etch (2007) releasing without it.
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(YAST has a TUI mode
and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of
anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed.
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display, but you don't have to buy anything... And anyway
it sounds like this MB never gets to post.
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Arc
econd
case, it should be more about ambient temperature, not about if there
was a rain storm.
Two years old, huh? So the warranty is.probably well over. I would say
just get a new Mobo.
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gt; I dont want to explain it you. If you are not interested in helping me.
> Please be SHUT UP and allow other to. Please remember that this mailing list
> have got you as dowry.
Your last sentence makes no sense what so ever.
Anyway, you will in fact have to explain yourself to someone he
ince the card came with a windows driver. It worked for
> him, and we swapped his card out. His works for me. It was a no-name brand,
> but it uses the NEC chipset, and seems to be working just fine here.
What is the pci id (lspci -vn or for Windows:
http://www.vm-help.com/esx/esx3i
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:06:51 -0800
> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
>> > Greetings:
>> >
>> > One of my Linux machines has crashed and root drive or IDE
>
), due to the
the NT HAL...but even there it should* be possible as long as stay on
the same brand (Intel/AMD) on relatively modern systems (say, x86-64
era)
* I have not tested this. Not responsible if it lets the magic smoke
out of your computer :-)
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ount selected partition appeared.
Maybe needs the BSD slice listed? or maybe needs "insmod ufs2"? And
probably should be "set root=" instead of "rootnoverify"
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5918
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omeday I'll try zsh or csh. When I'll have the time :D
>>
>> You should go really left-field and try rc! (but not for /bin/sh.)
>>
>
>
> Never heard of it. What is "rc"?
>
I do believe it is the shell from Plan 9
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Carl Fink wrote:
> I don't mean Android, a proprietary OS build on the Linux kernel just as
> MacOS is built on the BSD kernel.
>
> Are there any phones or tablets people are aware of that use actual, FOSS,
> Linux as their OS?
I still use the Nokia N900 with Maem
Pretty sure the partition is far more common. The file version is
there if you need it, but hopefully you don't. Having the pages sit in
a file on top of a filesystem just adds some extra layers, probably
decreases performance a bit, AFAIK
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM, David Guntner wrote:
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