Re: debian installation

1999-08-23 Thread Justin Wells
OK, enough people have reacted with "I like the whirling gears" that I retract that portion of my earlier comments, but still insist on these three things: 1. Debian should have an "express" install option which assumes that 90% of its defaults are going to be ok, thereby avoiding

Re: debian installation

1999-08-22 Thread Justin Wells
On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:26:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Justin Wells writes: > > A good middle ground might be to read the password from an environment > > variable. I did mention in my message that it's a security problem, but I also don't think it's a big

Re: debian installation

1999-08-21 Thread Justin Wells
On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 04:58:28PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I have considered adding support for dynamic passwords to pppconfig, but so > far it has seemed like too much added complexity for too few users. There > is an example script for secure-card in /usr/doc/ppp/examples/scripts. A good

Re: How determine all users logged into linux...

1999-08-21 Thread Justin Wells
You might want to make that ps auxwww just to make sure you see the whole line. Othewise ps will chop off some of the information, the 'w' means wide, and more of them means more wide. Check the ps manpage for a full list of the options and what they mean. Finding all the logged on user

Re: debian installation

1999-08-21 Thread Justin Wells
Hi Mark, Looks like people are already addressing most of the points I raised then. I guess I just have one comment left: On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 02:55:33PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > OTOH, one of the things many people like about Debian is the way it > doesn't try to hide moving parts. It

Re: restricted shell

1999-08-21 Thread Justin Wells
( I missed the start of this thread, but it looks like you are trying to give users the ability to execute a few commands on your system, without being able to do anything else ). There are a variety of restricted shells out there. One big warning though: unless you REALLY know what you're doing

Re: debian installation

1999-08-21 Thread Justin Wells
Let's not blur the truth here. Debian *is* a lot more difficult to install than RedHat. Mostly this is a "polishing" issue, rather than a technology issue, but the truth is RedHat is polished and Debian is not. FreeBSD also has a more polished install. I think that Debian has a much better tech

Re: Network card seizes! suggestions?

1999-08-21 Thread Justin Wells
Just to be sure, check that you don't have an IRQ conflict, or a conflict on memory address space, or some such thing. If it was conflicting with something not often used, you might only see the problem when both devices tried to operate at the same time--and a large file transfer would increase

Re: Is bash as feature-rich as tcsh?

1999-08-20 Thread Justin Wells
Wait... wait... I have one: is emacs as feature-rich as vim? Or how about this: is Debian as good as Slackware? Or... perhaps... even... is pine as feature rich as mutt? If you're not careful here you're going to start an enormous flame war, with religion on all sides. I always thought it would