Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread Jon Leonard
fers first wasn't viable. I'd read the documentation carefully, or maybe design to avoid having to read that documnetation. What's probably going on is that under different circumstances the cache of the input is used differently. Maybe the MacOS libc is less prone to read-ahead. Without digging through the code or nominally-opaque FILE* structures, it's hard to say. But I'm pretty sure it's "intermittently the FILE was in a state that didn't cause problems", not "exit() intermittently flushes". Jon Leonard

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-23 Thread Jon Leonard
ting copied to both processes in the fork() call. If you want to mix fork() and stdio, be sure to flush buffers before the call to fork. Depending on the task, it may be easier to use the underlying read() and write() calls. Jon Leonard

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Jon Smart
> On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 05:17:23PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: >> It's a VPS provided by a local ISP. The VPS has a static IPv4. >> Do you know how to know if /etc/resolv.conf is modified by dhcp? > > The first thing you could do is check whether a DHCP client daemon >

about PTR for an IP

2023-08-06 Thread Jon Smart
Hello, I know a hostname can point to multi-IPs. but can an IP have multi hostnames in PTR? 164.0.217.172.in-addr.arpa. 86400 INPTR mia09s16-in-f4.1e100.net. 164.0.217.172.in-addr.arpa. 86400 INPTR ord38s42-in-f4.1e100.net. 164.0.217.172.in-addr.arpa. 86400 INPTR yyz08s10

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Jon Smart
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:13 AM Jon Smart wrote: > >> It's a VPS provided by a local ISP. The VPS has a static IPv4. >> Do you know how to know if /etc/resolv.conf is modified by dhcp? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> > >> > Hi Jon, >>

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-06 Thread Jon Smart
It's a VPS provided by a local ISP. The VPS has a static IPv4. Do you know how to know if /etc/resolv.conf is modified by dhcp? Thanks. > > Hi Jon, > >> I have removed the default systemd-resolved local dns service following >> the link below, >> >> https:/

/etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

2023-08-05 Thread Jon Smart
Hello I have removed the default systemd-resolved local dns service following the link below, https://askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server. But every time I reboot the server, the configuration file

Which package should I report this bug against?

2023-07-20 Thread Jon Folsom
change the resolution just fine. Once I do this, the correct resolution appears in the Printer Options GUI. So, which package name do you suggest I file this against? Thanks very much, Jon

Re: chromium: "Your browser is managed"

2022-08-30 Thread Jon Leonard
or serve you ads or some such. There's various web pages describing how to remove it; you'll probably need to remove the directory that chromium is storing data in. (Back up bookmarks and such first.) You'll also want to try to figure out how it got installed, and what else might be compromised. Jon Leonard

Repair bootable USB stick

2020-02-09 Thread Jon Magee
tition table has not changed the results in Disks, other than to change it from the no partition table error to the unrecognized disk label error. Can anyone offer any help? Thanks, jon

Re: MIDI-to-USB on Debian?

2018-02-13 Thread Jon Leonard
h no issues for me. I don't remember what it cost new, and it looks a little different from the "Anniversary edition" that's for sale now. But such things do exist. Jon Leonard

Re: Sendmail compiled with tcpwrappers yet ignores /etc/hosts.deny ?

2015-11-23 Thread jon
On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 23:44 +, jon wrote: > > root@mail:/usr/share/doc# ldd /usr/sbin/sendmail |grep 'libwrap' > libwrap.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libwrap.so.0 (0xb7525000) > root@mail:/usr/share/doc# cat /etc/debian_version > 8.2 > > I want to

Sendmail compiled with tcpwrappers yet ignores /etc/hosts.deny ?

2015-11-22 Thread jon
compiled with support, can anyone help ? Thanks, Jon

Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

2014-12-04 Thread Jon Leonard
ting to work reliably. It should be possible to boot the Debian installer in rescue mode, get a shell, and do the install from there. Jon Leonard > I'm also looking into PureDarwin as a possible solution. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: Got skype 4.2 to connect again

2014-08-19 Thread Gabriele Jon Ficarelli
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:40:30 +0200 Hans wrote: > - search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0.37" http://mkgmediagroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/conanclap.gif -- Gabriele Ficarelli - Jon GPG: A5D862D7 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Run a small script at shutdown/reboot

2014-02-18 Thread Jon Danniken
On 02/18/2014 03:13 AM, Jaikumar Sharma wrote: > Hi Jon, > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Jon Danniken wrote: > >> Hello list, I have a small script (foobar.sh) which I would like to run >> at shutdown or reboot: >> >>> So what am I missing here?

Re: Run a small script at shutdown/reboot

2014-02-18 Thread Jon Danniken
eboot /usr/local/bin/foobar.sh > > assuming that's where the script is and it's +x Perfect, thanks Jonathan that's what I was looking for. Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Run a small script at shutdown/reboot

2014-02-17 Thread Jon Danniken
than I need for this little script (not to mention beyond my current understanding), but what else would work? Thanks for your suggestions, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Add a separate /home after installation?

2014-02-09 Thread Jon N
I am pretty sure it can be shrunk, although I guess I'll have boot from another disk (it can't be shrunk while mounted I would guess). Does this sound like a reasonable way to do this? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread Jon N
er latest' in Synaptic preferences to get updates? I am also in testing on my old computer and do not need to do this. I guess if it works it works, so why worry. It just makes me curious what's making it do this. BTW, I also use jessie in the sources.list on the old computer for all the d

Updating not working as expected

2014-02-08 Thread Jon N
es, but I don't know why I ended up with them or why I would (or would not) want them. Should I just change them to 'jessie'? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list

Re: MythTV from deb-multimedia setup?

2014-02-04 Thread Jon N
o. I'll try to remember to post back here if I find some answers, just in case anyone is curious. Thanks again, Jon On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 07:07:22PM -0500, Jon N wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've built a new machine and in

MythTV from deb-multimedia setup?

2014-02-03 Thread Jon N
setup as myself rather that as user 'mythtv'? Does it not being able for it to access the database mean that if I run the frontend as myself it also won't be able to access the database? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &qu

Re: How can I secure a Debian installation?

2014-01-28 Thread Jon Danniken
On 01/28/2014 12:37 PM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 28 Jan 2014 at 11:40:04 -0800, Jon Danniken wrote: > >> Thanks Brian, I ended up removing openssh-server, as it was not >> something I needed; it was automatically installed and set up to run as >> a "feature" of th

Re: How can I secure a Debian installation?

2014-01-28 Thread Jon Danniken
On 01/28/2014 03:57 AM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 27 Jan 2014 at 20:24:42 -0800, Jon Danniken wrote: > >> I recently came across a posting by an individual who got his >> Debian machine compromised due to a number of security problems, one of >> which was the default installa

Re: How can I secure a Debian installation?

2014-01-28 Thread Jon Danniken
or OpenVAS <http://openvas.org/> or some other scanner. Thanks Brad, I'll be using those to check my new installations from now on. Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e806a8.90...@q.com

Re: How can I secure a Debian installation?

2014-01-27 Thread Jon Danniken
On 01/27/2014 09:41 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Keep updated, subscribe to the security list, read and follow the fine > manual:- > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ Thanks Scott, that's just what I was looking for. Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

How can I secure a Debian installation?

2014-01-27 Thread Jon Danniken
vulnerabilities are present out of the box that I need to address, especially if I should take the laptop out with me and connect to a public network. Besides the sshd root login, what else do I need to disable/fix on this machine? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-24 Thread Jon N
ms' installed before, but it got left over. The nvidia driver offered to register with it for automatic updates. So I still get the main reason for changing. Thanks for all your help, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CANcvmg2Mhrhw0EKbz6yDCd_Db0gdTcWT==nqpyv5pcu_c5o...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 09:35:52 -0500 > Jon N wrote: > > Hello Jon, > >>I did check that, but it looks OK (correct version installed). >> >>Thanks, > > No problem. I've just re-read your original mes

Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:15:25 -0500 > Jon N wrote: > > Hello Jon, > >>I love the idea of not having to re-installed the downloaded Nvidia >>drivers every time the kernel updates (plus it seems to keep breaking) >&

Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 22 dec 13, 19:15:25, Jon N wrote: >> >> "NWRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 304.108, but this >> kernel module has the version 319.76. Please make sure that this >> kernel module and all N

Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-22 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Jon N wrote: > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Jon N wrote: <---snip---> > It's getting late so I'm going to have to look at this again in the > morning. I think I should be able to make a new blacklist file for > nouveau

Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-22 Thread Jon N
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Jon N wrote: > I have been getting pretty good with breaking my system lately. Today > I got it in mind to stop downloading the Nvidia binary driver and > installing it myself and switch to using the version available as a > Debian package. I first

Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-22 Thread Jon N
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Jon N wrote: <---snip---> > >> Not empty, but if it contains illegal characters it won't make any >> difference. I didn't find any error messages that would clue me in to >> the problem (like: "

Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-22 Thread Jon N
ers to me (then again, if I knew what I was doing I woudn't be writing to you :-)). I love the idea of not having to re-installed the downloaded Nvidia drivers every time the kernel updates (plus it seems to keep breaking) so I would like to get this to work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jon

Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Jon N
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Jon N wrote: >> Dec 21 16:36:38 (none) lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm-greeter:session): session >> opened for user lightdm by (uid=0) > > "(none)"? It thinks the hostname is "(none)"? That's not ri

Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Jon N
and 'service lightdm restart'. It worked, sort of. I was able to log in, but my desktop didn't start right. There were no panels, and when I tried to run a Mate configuration app they wouldn't run. I switched back to the virtual terminal I ran 'service lightdm

Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Jon N
ns on how to change config files for some specific packages. Am I missing anything? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CANcvmg3+gxrEZovCPGNf1=pf05j6ze+onpytktnx-8bojbb...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Jesse install images?

2013-12-13 Thread Jon N
the Jessie installer and, well, installed it :-). I guess I just missed the link before. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Jon

Re: Jesse install images?

2013-12-12 Thread Jon N
checked out the netbootcd site, and then the Tiny Core that it's based on from there. Unfortunately they are only up to kernel 3.8 so far, and I think I need 3.10 to support my ethernet hardware. It looks like it would have been easy though, I wish it worked :-). Jon -- T

Jesse install images?

2013-12-11 Thread Jon N
nload multiple CD or 1 DVD file? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cancvmg3b6fsp+2xfsousrzxebwbmvxle-iqzdioi+uu8qco...@mail.gmail.com

Switching video card brands

2013-12-05 Thread Jon N
ivers remove the old ones? And what package name would I have to use to install Nvidia's drivers from the repository. I have (almost) always used Nvidia's drivers downloaded from their site because when I search in Synaptic for nvidia I'm not sure which packages I need to install. Th

Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jon N
a tty prompt, log in, and type "startx" which brings up my forever > faithful ratpoison WM. Between ratpoison and ROX, I'm pretty much set and > not shopping for a DE. > > Jeff I tried KDE a couple of time, but I have to admit I found it confusing. I felt like I

Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jon N
On Nov 29, 2013 5:29 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 16:34 -0500, Jon N wrote: > > Enlightenment seems a long way from the heavyweights like Gnome, Mate, > > etc. Why do you feel that is also a no-go? > > During the years I tested it several

Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jon N
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 15:43 -0500, Jon N wrote: >> The only reason I prefer gdm3 is it gives me options on which >> environment I want to load. Normally I use Mate, but xdm didn't offer >> any choice and I d

Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jon N
as got such a HDD killer > too, but I still need to find it. If I should know what does kill the > HDDs (KIO, Nepomuk or whatever else), then it might be a hard > dependency, maybe easy, but perhaps impossible to remove. > > Everything with GTK/GNOME dependencies has got

Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jon N
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jon N wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: >> Jon N wrote: >>> I know I shouldn't mess with things, I really don't know what i'm >>> doing for the most part. But sometimes I can't resist. >

Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jon N
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Jon N wrote: >> I know I shouldn't mess with things, I really don't know what i'm >> doing for the most part. But sometimes I can't resist. > > It is okay to mess with things as long as you lea

Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jon N
of stuff (47 packages, I think), it still stops at the same message as above. Other than reinstalling everything from scratch, can anyone offer any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &qu

Your experience with this hardware: ASRock H87M-ITX

2013-11-24 Thread Jon N
: Qualcomm Atheros AR8171 Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CANcvmg1dpzdO1dm_f+nbGPK=tkoqc_t7e_7pxzoyxcnodwg...@mail.gmail.com

Re: NAS hdd's in Debian desktop computer?

2013-11-22 Thread Jon N
On Nov 22, 2013 7:42 PM, "Kelly Clowers" wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Jon N wrote: > > > > > > Which leads to my questions. If the NAS drive is installed in a > > desktop computer running Debian Linux what is the result of this? > >

Re: NAS hdd's in Debian desktop computer?

2013-11-22 Thread Jon N
That was the main question. Do you know if Linux (Debian or not) would do something different based on the "(...) Error Recovery Control" message than it would do otherwise? Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

NAS hdd's in Debian desktop computer?

2013-11-22 Thread Jon N
dealing with this? How else will will this affect my system? In my online searches I have seen many results dealing with using desktop drives in NAS's, but nothing (so far) that addresses the issue the other way around. So any light you can shed on this will be gratefully appreciated. Than

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-14 Thread Jon N
vers such devices. > Well, thank you very much. Actually, I had already posted a question on the MythTV mail list about this question before I saw your reply. They say they do this (use the HDMI on a discrete card for audio) all the time :-). I read part of the page at Nvidia, it was very h

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
el fairly confident (hopefully not overly so). When I narrow down my choice to a specific motherboard I'll do a search for it and Linux, and maybe ask here before I purchase. Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
ist to go through. > Those (mythTV) questions are often best answered by your local LUG or > the mythTV forums as they can generally suggest current "best buys". Now > that you've now supplied the primary context ;) mythTV, it's easier to > find a solution. I&#x

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
On Nov 12, 2013 7:32 PM, "Stan Hoeppner" wrote: > > On 11/12/2013 5:37 PM, Jon N wrote: > ... > > There is one an area that I'm pretty unsure of. I am planning on > > purchasing a Nvidia video card and disabling the built in Intel video > > support. Sin

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
; on my current computer, but don't really need to, so may choose 'Stable' for the new hardware. Thanks, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 12/11/13 09:03, Jon N wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have been a Debian user for I'd guess 7 or 8 years now. I would >> like to thank all of you that helped create a system that is so >> useful. Despit

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Jon N
boards have new chipsets (either H81 or H87). Is the chipset an issue? I was going to go for an entry level Nvidia graphics card, so I don't think that shouldn't be a problem. And the Audio and NIC chips vary by the board, which I haven't selected yet, so that will come next. Jon O

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Jon N
Thanks Karl - I was thinking it would 'just work', but wanted to make sure. And leaving Windows out of the mix probably doesn't hurt either. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:03:44PM -0500, Jon N wrote: &g

Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Jon N
. I have considered installed another Linux distribution in the future just to see how it may be different. Hopefully different distributions of Linux will play nicely, at least as far as the question of UEFI. So, to sum it up, what do I need to know about Linux, or Debian, and UEFI? Thanks, Jon

Re: Rooting an Android Tablet on Debian

2013-03-11 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi, not answering your specific question, but On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 02:57:18PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > I got a Kobo Arc that runs Android 4.0.4 and would like to become su for this > device snip > I use Calibre with the Arc for moving books around but Calibre is useless > with the Adobe

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:47:22AM -0600, green wrote: > So, imagine that I have a full filesystem and want to fix it by > removing a single package. I would need to get a list of manually > installed packages, and go through each one of them individually, > proposing a removal and saving aptitude

Re: Cost of packages in disk space?

2013-02-25 Thread Jon Dowland
For simple per-package results, "dpigs" from debian-goodies gives you what you want (and is little more than a one-liner similar to what was posted by another to this thread, internally.) As for cumulative space, what you want is not how much space a package takes up but to answer the question: fo

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 12:09:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed, but we're talking about 3GB of memory here, which seems hard to > justify for such an application. Sure, but my point was it's not a leak. Being memory inefficient is one thing. Leaking memory is where, over time, it takes m

Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
You could use GNU units. It appears to treat SI prefixes as strictly base 10, so use the KiB/MiB etc. variants where applicable: > $ units 8112116KiB MiB > * 7921.9883 > / 0.00012623094 Something like > …2>&1| awk '/transferred/' {print $1}'|while read i; do units "${i}bytes" > "GiB

Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince

2013-02-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:28:51AM +0100, Peter Viskup wrote: > Hi all, > just want to share my bad experience with Gnome3 in testing. They > have/had some mem-leaks in there. > > viskup@viskup:~$ uptime > 11:10:57 up 16 days, 17:01, 10 users, load average: 1.61, 1.34, 1.07 I'm not sure what th

Re: copy current HDD setout on preseed

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 02:40:18PM +0100, Frank Lanitz wrote: > Depending on your goal you could create the layout and put it into kind > of a image. Fastest way would be e.g. dd if=/dev/sda of=/foo/baa > > At last as long as you are not writing, whats your goal ;) OP mentioned preseeding. Can th

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:30:24AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > Cinnamon is actually in Sid right now. I haven't tried it, so I don't > know how well it works. Thanks for the information. It still won't get into the next stable release, but being officially packaged is likely to be in the one after

Re: Debian 7 wheezy should be released by now, don't u think?

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:53:41AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote: > You can have a look at > > to see the number of release critical bugs. The release should wait > until that number is zero. Near zer

Re: Network Manager icon not working well

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:50:36PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > is there any service which monitors status of Ethernet and changes Network > > manager's icon on gnome-control-panel? > > Network Manager. For GNOME3, nm does not draw the icon in the display, gnome-shell overrides it and provide

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.de

Re: Gnome3 probe

2012-12-14 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:35:59AM +0100, phi debian wrote: > So my question, does next release of debian will be poluted with gnome3, > are will we have a choice? Even a dangled gnome2 would be good for me. GNOME2 will be gone, GNOME3 will be present, and the fallback mode has been renamed "GNOME

Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-12-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 08:35:51PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: > hummm...I don't know but I care nothing for these code words squeeze wheezy > sid > etc. I prefer good 'ol stable testing unstable experimental. They both serve their own purposes. The code names continue to point at the same rel

Re: Problem With exim4 smtp authenication

2012-12-03 Thread Jon Dowland
Do either your username or password have a colon character in them? Do you need to connect to a particular port on the remote SMTP server in order to authenticate (e.g., some may accept authentication on the default SMTP port, some might not - you may need to connect to the submission port.) --

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-12-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:04:52PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > Have a look at the /etc/inittab file. > > I have: > # less /etc/inittab > [...] > # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. > ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now I'm fairly sure that X eats CTRL-ALT-DEL and init does

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
Some interesting replies , many of which seem to have not read your message ;) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:42:31AM -0900, Britton Kerin wrote: > I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I > get this: > > britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version > Exim ver

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:40:18PM +0100, Cosme Domínguez Díaz wrote: > El 28/11/12 19:42, Britton Kerin escribió: > >Does anyone know what debian package provides the /usr/bin/sendmail program ^^^ > >or its equivalent like on the first syst

Re: help

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - • I was not able to figure what you need help with from your mail • please use a descriptive subject when posting to this list • please do not send HTML to this list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:00:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jon Dowland wrote: > >On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: > >>Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done > >>only to 7 % from them (statistic by som

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:47:46PM +0100, Slavko wrote: > Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched and changes/additions are done > only to 7 % from them (statistic by some Ubuntu & Debian developer - > sorry i have no link). Then Ubuntu has significantly less to do... That's a flawed argument. I

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:50:39PM -0600, Nelson Green wrote: > 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   > Always   -   12 I think this is bad. > Num  Test_Description    Status  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  > LBA_of_first_error > # 1  Short offli

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:43:00PM -0300, Beco wrote: > I tried google, but without more keywords, "rc" was too little to search. Good point, sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: How to prevent daemons from starting at boot after update?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
One option would be to install and use systemd. Afaik with systemd, one can use socket-based activation: that is, systemd listens on the socket that your daemons will use and only starts those daemons if something connects. You may need to manually configure that behaviour, I don't know whether sys

Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:47:47PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a > win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk. > > I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot > in UEFI mode > > (I got a text menu wr

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:24:07PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > And I'd *really* like to continue having stable software, and no release till > it's ready. I don't think those two things are incompatible with each other. > One of the many things that I dislike about Ubuntu, is its habit of releasin

Re: sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:11:54PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Thanks for the information, Jon. I hadn't realised that! I've merrily > carried on using "bash". :-/ Bash is a lot friendlier and better suited as a login or interactive shell. The startup time is not so im

Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:17:50PM -0300, Beco wrote: > Never heard of it. What is "rc"? A shell. It's packaged in Debian, oddly enough in package 'rc'. May I suggest you try "apt-cache show rc", or google? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Dying hard drive?

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
First and foremost, double check that your SATA cables are properly secure. Install smartctl and run smartctl -a /dev/$disk0 (where $disk0 is e.g. sda); check to see if any of the various SMART attributes indicate a problem. Run a short, then a long SMART self test smartctl -t short /dev/$disk

Re: sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 02:29:15PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Does it really carry weight? With sysvinit, which spawns a lot of sh instances, yes. With something like systemd, no - it tries to solve the same problem in part by not spawning a shell lots of times. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53:30PM +0100, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > People can use other things than bash, I do not see the problem. And I > think that someday I'll try zsh or csh. When I'll have the time :D You should go really left-field and try rc! (but not for /bin/sh.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

sh (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:30:20AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Also very nice is the output of > > $ ls -l /bin/sh > > for Ubuntu it's not bash. For modern Debian installations it's not bash either. Switching /bin/sh to dash by default was done principally to make boot times quicker (dash is sm

how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:39:54AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > Let's welcome more (I assume we do want more users on our base, don't > > we? > > There needs to be a "critical mass"; but beyond that point, an > increase in numbers is not necessarily beneficial. Agreed for 'mere' users, but

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 08:19:01PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > The best solution for the "I must have the very latest, and I must have > it now" crowd is to switch over to Ubuntu. You can have it right, or > you can have it now, but seldom can you have it "right now". "I must have the very

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release

2012-11-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:33:40PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > IOW, is there a rush? Perhaps not a "rush" but I'd *really* like to have a predictable release schedule. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Mobile devices ... any of them still use Linux?

2012-11-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 01:11:41PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > It would be nice, if there would be the manpower to enable Linux installs on > iThingies. I've seen a proof-of-concept Linux running on (I think) a first gen iPad, but I don't think it's got beyond the "cool this is possible" stage.

Re: how to encrypt/decrypt remote folder ?

2012-11-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:52:44AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If I type "encfs vs" into Google I get: Honestly, doing a basic google search and splurging the results into a mailing list post helps nobody. If you don't have personal experience of solving the problem, don't post. -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - please trim your quotes. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:05:55PM +0100, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > If I am not wrong, there IS such a warning if you do the switch. At least, > if you remove the package sysvinit (or whatever name) with aptitude, it > will ask you to write an entire sentance which ex

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