A Little Confused

2004-09-24 Thread John Lowell
A little confused by the Debian login process when using a window manager like fluxbox. In the past, I've always started the X window system after a console login and startx after having first written an ~/.xinitrc. I was a little surprized after the Debian installation and the addition of X wi

Re: Defoma

2004-09-15 Thread John Lowell
Clive Menzies wrote: > Rob Weir wrote a useful guide: > http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt > > HTH > > Regards > > Clive > > > -- > Byte-Night 2004 ... helping the young homeless .. please visit: > https://www.bmycharity.com/clive Hello Clive! And many thanks for the url for Rob Weir's

Re: Defoma

2004-09-14 Thread John Lowell
Anssi Porttikivi wrote: Neither can anyone else. It's a mess. Hi Anssi, First, my apologies to you and the list for the blank message that I sent inadvertently just moments ago. Life's hard enough without things like that, eh? :-) So it's a mess? That's certainly not encouraging. Frankly, I'm a

Defoma

2004-09-13 Thread John Lowell
I have a very basic Debian system installed: base packages, x-window system, fluxbox, a system monitor, links for downloads, firefox for browsing, thunderbird foe e-mail. The fonts that come with firefox and Thunderbird in Debian - out of the box at least - are minimal and, to my tastes, unacce

Re: Installing Package To Floppy

2004-09-09 Thread John Lowell
Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > Depends on the package. In your case I think it doesn't make a > difference, you probably only need the pv binary anyway. Looking at > > it seems that th

Re: Installing Package To Floppy

2004-09-09 Thread John Lowell
Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > That will only write the output messages to the floppy. You also don't > want to write to the floppy device file, you want to write to the file > system on the floppy disk. > Don't use apt. Use dpkg. Mount the floppy, get the package, and > extract it: > > mount /m

Installing Package To Floppy

2004-09-09 Thread John Lowell
I would like to install a single, very small package to a floppy disk but apparently don't understand the correct proceedure. Desperate and floundering, I've even run the following after preliminaries in the hope of getting somewhere: apt-get install pv | /dev/fd0 apt-get install pv > /mnt/flop

Re: Dock Appts II

2004-09-03 Thread John Lowell
Tim Kelley wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 17:01, John Lowell wrote: For little trivial things like dockapps, well, I wouldn't care, but it can get messy. If you are going to use pinning and grab stuff from different branches, it is really best to grab the src-deb wit

Re: Dock Appts II

2004-09-03 Thread John Lowell
Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: It is perfectly acceptable to install "testing" or "unstable" packages. Preferably "testing" packages as "testing" is frozen and will probably become "stable" in the next month or two if all goes well. There used to be a "frozen" directory in addition to "stable" and "testin

Re: Dock Appts II

2004-09-03 Thread John Lowell
Thomas Adam wrote: I must have missed the part where you are owed a response. I suggested that a response was owed? I said simply that one was not made. You completely misrepresent my comment. Do me the kindness of never responding to a question I raise here in the future please. jlowell -- T

Dock Appts II

2004-09-03 Thread John Lowell
Not what I'd call a torrential response to my first message regarding dock appts so I thought I'd write again in the hope that someone might help at this time. :-) Although I'm by no means new to GNU/LInux, I am new to Debian. I've recently installed "testing" including base packages, X window

Dock Appts

2004-09-02 Thread John Lowell
I'm new to Debian and learning the system. I have a minimal "testing" set-up here which I got using the business card iso with base packages, fluxbox, links (which I use in graphical mode for downloads) firefox and thunderbird installed. I'd like to use dock appts instead of the gkrellm system

Fluxbox

2004-08-22 Thread John Lowell
During my installation a couple of weeks ago, after having chosen to install packages from "testing", I installed fluxbox as my window manager and got a very recent version, 0.9.9. There are a number of differences between this iteration of fluxbox and the earlier one, 0.1.14, of course. Fran

Re: Xterm, Schmexterm

2004-08-22 Thread John Lowell
Stefan O'Rear wrote: I_HATE_MBOX From the Bash Manual: # `\[' # Begin a sequence of non-printing characters. This could be used to # embed a terminal control sequence into the prompt. # # `\]' # End a sequence of non-printing characters. corrected prompt: export PS1='\[\033[1;31m\

Re: Xterm, Schmexterm

2004-08-22 Thread John Lowell
Marc Wilson wrote: It's not xterm. It's the shell you're running inside it. Correct your custom prompt, making sure that you actually mark the non-printing characters AS non-printing so that bash will know where the lines end. You will note that things start behaving again if you remove the custo

Re: Xterm, Schmexterm

2004-08-22 Thread John Lowell
Jon Dowland wrote: On an unrelated note, if you find yourself with a spare 30 minutes give the debian package `menu' a look. This handy program lets you define menu entries in a wm-agnostic way, but also automatically builds menus for all menu-carrying programs. Hello Jon! Many thanks for your r

Xterm, Schmexterm

2004-08-21 Thread John Lowell
OK, besides the challenge of learning the Debian way of handling fonts, I've run into something about the way xterm operates in Debian that is rather puzzling. I've got a very simple setup here, the base packages, the x window system, fluxbox, a system monitor, lynx which I use primarily for do

Re: Fonts, What Else

2004-08-15 Thread John Lowell
Brian Pack wrote: I'm not sure, but I'd love to see the answer to this one as well. I've been in the habit of running gnome-control-center as soon as I start flux to get the font size I want. it's not as bas as when I was running SuSE, but GNOME fonts outside GNOME were always much larger t

Fonts, What Else

2004-08-13 Thread John Lowell
I'm having some trouble understanding the Debian way with fonts. I've installed the base packages plus X window system, fluxbox, and firefox. Firefox does not show in its menu certain fonts that I would think would be available to it simply by virtue of X's installation, that is to say helveti

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
s. keeling wrote: > fwiw, that's what it says here too. I'd forgotten about xdpyinfo. Hi s.keeling, Well, editing ~/.xinitrc didn't fix things but a simple one line edit of /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers does. You'll see a dpi setting of 100 on the last line of that file. I changed mine to 72 and down we

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
s. keeling wrote: > Ah. You're using fluxbox on top of gnome-session? I don't use gnome. > Perhaps that's where this is coming from. If so, the answer's in > gnome control center. > > This is the sort of annoying interaction that drove me away from those > big wm/dm/sm things. Now, I just fiddl

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
s. keeling wrote: > Ah. You're using fluxbox on top of gnome-session? I don't use gnome. > Perhaps that's where this is coming from. If so, the answer's in > gnome control center. > > This is the sort of annoying interaction that drove me away from those > big wm/dm/sm things. Now, I just fidd

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
s. keeling wrote: > > Your problem then is with the style definition. In my ~/.fluxbox dir, > I have a ~/.fluxbox/styles, and that's where I copied in my preferred > style (TDF). In styles/TDF, it mentions: > > toolbar.font: lucidasans-10 > menu.title.Font:lucida

Re: Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from John Lowell: Well, many years later, my first reasonably intelligent look at Debian. I downloaded and burned the businesscard iso last night and the install went flawlessly, at least I think it did. I used aptitude to bring down the x window

Font Sizes In Fluxbox

2004-08-09 Thread John Lowell
Well, many years later, my first reasonably intelligent look at Debian. I downloaded and burned the businesscard iso last night and the install went flawlessly, at least I think it did. I used aptitude to bring down the x window system and fluxbox post install and have a question about font ren