Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-04 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 30 August 2007 20:19:06 Britton Kerin wrote: > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone > could point me to? > > (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which > pa

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-31 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:26:25 Mumia W.. wrote: > On 08/29/2007 08:17 AM, Joe Hart wrote: > > I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example of > > what I am looking for: > > > > > > This is a test > > file, what I am &g

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
te: > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 15:17:46 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > > I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example > > > of what I am looking for: > > > > > > > > > This is a test > > > file, what I am > > > t

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 17:36:38 Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 03:17:46PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > > > This is a test > > file, what I am > > trying to do is get the lines to join. > > > > It isn't a complicated thing, > > b

Re: Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 15:48:50 Victor Munoz wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 03:17:46PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example of > > what I am looking for: > > > > > > This is a test > > file

Editing a text file with sed

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Hart
I am having trouble using sed to edit text files, heres a good example of what I am looking for: This is a test file, what I am trying to do is get the lines to join. It isn't a complicated thing, but I also want to keep the paragraphs separate. I try this command: sed s/\n// / 1.txt > 2.tx

Re: fresh kde install

2007-08-27 Thread Joe Hart
On Sunday 26 August 2007 01:54:43 Joris Huizer wrote: > --- "L.V.Gandhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have installed etch base system and then > > installed xorg. I was > > trying to install kde > > apt-get install kde kdm > > I get msg saying > > . > > the following packages has unmet

Re: graphics driver issues

2007-08-24 Thread Joe Hart
On Friday 24 August 2007 19:48:31 sworoc wrote: > Hi all, > > I am a college student and am taking a graphics course this fall. I > recently built a PC with an AMD64 CPU and a GeForce 6150 on board > graphics card. I seem to be having trouble getting it to use the > nvidia module, but I'm not sur

Re: kde applications slow starting.

2007-08-21 Thread Joe Hart
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 17:26:40 L.V.Gandhi wrote: > Morning every application was working ok. Now all kde applications > like kwrite, home etc takes very long time to start. It freezes > windows. > In oocalc, file open is done quickly from fileopen dialog. If I use > recently open it hangs. > I

Re: Organising MP3 Files into folders

2007-08-17 Thread Joe Hart
On Friday 17 August 2007 09:07:23 Jonathan Kaye wrote: > Magnus Pedersen wrote: > > Adam Gray wrote: > >> Basically while backing up my system I used my iPod to back up my > >> music collection, which used to be neatly sorted into folders with > >> artists & albums. Then when downloading it again w

Re: Free dive log software?

2007-08-14 Thread Joe Hart
Sending to list where it belongs. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Free dive log software? Date: Tuesday 14 August 2007 From: "Richard Hartmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joe Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 14/08/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Free dive log software?

2007-08-14 Thread Joe Hart
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 14:06:22 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/14/07 06:23, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > Is anyone aware of (good) software that allows you to log your dives, > > your brevets and everything else that relates to diving? > > > > KDE/Qt with SQLlite preferred, but I am not too particula

Re: Installing Sarge problem

2007-08-13 Thread Joe Hart
Sending message back to list: On Monday 13 August 2007 16:23:55 you wrote: > -- Original message -- > From: Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Monday 13 August 2007 13:44:52 Bob Middaugh wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I

Re: Installing Sarge problem

2007-08-13 Thread Joe Hart
On Monday 13 August 2007 13:44:52 Bob Middaugh wrote: > Hi, > I'm installing Sarge, installation completes, reboot, set timezone, root > pwd, Apt config pick http and debian.lcs.mit.edu. > > After that, I get the ominious message about overwriting the kernel I'm > currently running and how this can

Re: Passwordless X login

2007-08-09 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 09 August 2007 13:59:55 Dan H wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to be able to login with just a mouseclick like possible in > Windows. My wife and I are sharing a computer at home, and it's kind of > silly to always have to type in a password (which is the same for both of > us anyway). Is t

Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators

2007-08-05 Thread Joe Hart
On Sunday 05 August 2007 16:23:12 B.Hoffmann wrote: > > I would like to see how VirtualBox stands up against the others. It > > seems to be the fastest emulator when it comes to Windows. Although this > > is only one person's opinion and there is no "scientific" evidence it > > just feels faster.

Re: [OT UPDATE] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-25 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 25 July 2007 18:02:49 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I don't really think this is OT, albeit not directly Debian related. > > Con Kolivas, the kernel hacker who authored a better scheduler, recently > > decided to quit. > > > > Loss for Linux (and Linus

Re: Stability issues

2007-07-21 Thread Joe Hart
On Saturday 21 July 2007 14:22:47 Mike Robinson wrote: > I've been running Debian testing for about a year-and-a-half. It's been > quite stable. I performed a dist-upgrade about two weeks ago. It's > been unstable since. By unstable I mean that applications may crash > (disappear) and the syste

Re: Benefits of using aptitude

2007-07-18 Thread Joe Hart
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 21:31:28 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Still, if you're used to apt-get, I don't really see a reason to switch. > >> I always recommend aptitude, but never tell users to switch from apt-get > >> on a running system. If I should, please let me know the reasons. > > > > The big

Re: URGENT: my gnome desktop is dead

2007-07-16 Thread Joe Hart
On Monday 16 July 2007 12:09:05 Dot Deb wrote: > This morning I switched my laptop on, as usual, but after logging > in (using gdm), gnome only shows me the tomboy window. No > panels, no background, no icons ... > > Yesterday I regularly switched off the laptop. I did not u

Re: MP3 + Patent issues in Debian

2007-07-16 Thread Joe Hart
On Monday 16 July 2007 10:01:25 Kumar Appaiah wrote: > Dear Debian users, > > While talking about Debian in a LUG meet, someone pointed out that > Debian's distributions could play MP3s out-of-the-box (Etch > included). This is unlike the Fedora/Ubuntu policy of not making > available the (supposed

Re: How to move the master boot record?

2007-07-01 Thread Joe Hart
On Sunday 01 July 2007 13:33:17 Rodolfo Medina wrote: [snip] > I've done more tests and these are my conclusions: > > 1) if I run the above grub commands from the `target' partition everything > goes well: e.g., if I want to install hda6 grub boot loader to the mbr, I > have to do: > ># grub

Re: How to move the master boot record?

2007-06-30 Thread Joe Hart
gt;> At the moment the `boot partition' is hda6 and I want it to be, say, > >> hda9. Sorry if I can'y use the right words. Maybe I should say that the > >> hda6 Grub boot loader is now installed to the master boot record of my > >> hard drive whereas the h

Re: How to move the master boot record?

2007-06-29 Thread Joe Hart
On Friday 29 June 2007 15:33:09 Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In my computer the master boot record is installed in /dev/hda6. > >> Suppose I want to move it and have it installed in /dev/hda9: is it > >> possible, and how? > > "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL P

Re: have to learn python

2007-06-28 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 28 June 2007 17:49:17 abdelkader belahcene wrote: > Hi, > have I need to learn python, I know several interpreters (fro example > bash scripting, ) and laguages (php, C++,C..). > I administrate servers on linux > end developpe application at know using depending of course of type > o

Re: Upgrade from 32bit Sarge to 64bit Etch

2007-06-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mitja Podreka wrote: > Hello > > I've thought out my migration plan, but since the box in question is my > computer at work, I cannot afford to "loose" it for long. > I would like to ask you for opinion or suggestions. > > I was thinking to do it lik

Re: Fonts quality in Desktop with Iceweasel

2007-06-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josep M. wrote: > Hello to all. > > I have in the same machine centos 4.4 and debian etch, > in centos, when using firefox fonts are much better > quality than debian, in both I have added the same > Microsoft fonts, Arial, Tahoma,Verdana... ad all fo

Re: Problem with Debian Etch on s390

2007-05-31 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rod Clayton wrote: > I am trying to install Debian 4.0 Etch under VM on an s390 mainframe. > I am using a network install and a guest lan for connectivity. After I > sucessfully install the OS, the system re-boots. On Re-boot, Linux > doesn't recognize

Re: CLI tools for checking out CDROM drive

2007-05-28 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Henry wrote: > On Monday 28 May 2007 00:24, Hugh Lawson wrote: >> Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I mean we're not talking about big bucks here. It's just annoying when >>> something stops working for no apparent reason. >> I may have

Re: CLI tools for checking out CDROM drive

2007-05-27 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Henry wrote: > I've got a Sony CD-RW CRX230E on this machine, which until recently appeared > to be working ok. Now I'm getting a "No Media Found" when trying to mount a > data CD. When I first noticed this, I tried an audio cd, and that played

Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manon Metten wrote: > Hi Ron, > > On 5/25/07, *Ron Johnson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > When you say "gnome", do you mean the package named "gnome"? > > If so, you should be all right. Unless aptitude does so

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-19 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-05-11 10:48:06, schrieb Joe Hart: >> On the other hand, how can one pro actively stop a band of terrorists? > > Interesting... > > Where are the terrorists? > Some of the 23 911-Terros

Re: Thx for Help, problem with links in mails remains

2007-05-18 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mad4linux wrote: > > Hi, > First i'd like to thank you for the help concerning the problem with > email-adresses opening in evolution when using iceweasel on kde. This > problem is now fixed after selectingthe right entries in > /usr/share/application

Re: Duplicate menu item

2007-05-18 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Haggai Alavi wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 08:14 +0530, Alan Haggai Alavi wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I installed the package for 'GTK Styles and Fonts' in KDE. I >>> installed it via Automatix2. But I happened to install i

Re: Adding icons to firefox or thunderbird

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric A. Bonney wrote: > How do I assign the icons to firefox and/or thunderbird? I have them > installed an running just fine, but whenever I put an icon on my desktop > or in a panel I get either nothing or a little gear icon for them. I > would lik

Re: Typing an '@' symbol on an Apple keyboard

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike McCarty wrote: >> Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: >> >>> >>> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 08:45 +0200, Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: > Dear all > > I'm a complete newbie, and I'm not sure which mailing lis

Re: [OT] Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 10:13:08 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Chris Bannister wrote: [snip] >>> >>> We need a list ethicist who is not "out to lunch" :-) >>> >> Fine. I nomina

Re: The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gray wrote: >>> The welfare system is too lenient. There are a number of people who >>> refuse to work because they actually take a pay cut by getting a job. >> Something wrong there. The welfare benefit should be less than the >> minimum hourly wage.

Re: Typing an '@' symbol on an Apple keyboard

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: > > > Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 08:45 +0200, Matthias Brennwald (bwm) wrote: >>> Dear all >>> >>> I'm a complete newbie, and I'm not sure which mailing list is the >>> best to post my question (I pos

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:05:15PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >>> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:56:09AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>>> Ron Johnson wrote: >>>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:42:26PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> There are also problems here: > > Netherlands? > >> There are too many political parties, so in order to have a working >> governm

Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5

2007-05-15 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 06:28:03 +, David Dawson wrote: >> Florian Kulzer wrote: >> >>> aptitude -F '%?p%?v' search '~i~dkde' | awk '/3\.5\.6/{print $1,$2}' >> Thanks. >> This is what I get from the above command: >> kde-i18

Off Topic Messages: (was Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law)

2007-05-15 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Burnett wrote: > Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar > > You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a > little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my > question. > > How do I blacklist a individual user

Re: Oh-NOOOOS: Microsoft says "Linux" infringes 235 of its Patents.

2007-05-15 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > David Baron writes: >> Now there must be a reason why Microsoft browbeat and legally harrassed >> Robertson until he gave up the name "Lindows". Certainly. > > They _paid_ him. The reason being that it had become quite clear that

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan H wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2007 13:18:20 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I downloaded the business card .iso for i386 from >> >> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ >> >> and

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] >> The point is in the pressure applied by lobbyists is well received in >> the American system. SIG's are quite alive and active. The same is >> true in other countries, but overall the Netherlands is much less >> influenced by

Re: Advise on backing up files in Etch.

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 � wrote: > What application do you think its best for backing up /home files in > Debian Etch? > > Thank you. There are a lot of different ways to go about this. One of the most common programs do do this is tar. rsync is good if you have another p

Re: Menu question

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thilo Six wrote: > Joe Hart wrote the following on 13.05.2007 18:26: > > > >> Right click on the menu item in question and choose edit item. That >> will launch KDE's menu editor. There you can change the name. Wh

Re: Menu question

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: > Roberto C. S�nchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 10:11:49PM -0300, Tim wrote: >>> I've scoured google, but I can't seem to find a solution to how to change >>> my menu format. >>> >>> Currently my menu items are

Re: iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KS wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >>>> http://gallery.menalto.com/ >> >> With my test (with iceweasel and konqueror), it depends on how large you >> make the text. If it goes beyond a certain level, yes the windows move

Re: Ffmpeg and Ipod

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hackarre wrote: > El ds 12 de 05 del 2007 a les 11:35 +0200, en/na Magnus Pedersen va > escriure: >> hackarre wrote: >>> Hello everyone! >>> >>> I'm quite new in Debian, I used to use Ubuntu. Everything is great but >>> the problem is to convert my vid

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:42:26 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Celejar wrote: >> [snip] >>>> Yes, I consid

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:20 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Celejar wrote: >>> On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:13:59 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Celejar wrote: >>> On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:59

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:04:09PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> The same can be said about package managers. While we all most likely >> agree that apt is a superior package manager, there are those that think >>

Re: linux-image-2.6-* dependency issues [was Re: Business card iso]

2007-05-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:11:48AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:37:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >>>> ~$ apt-cach

Re: 32 & 54 bit shared libraries -- how to?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SteveM wrote: > All the machines on my network mount /usr/local/lib/... using NFS. This has > worked well for me until I added 64 bit boxen. 64bit perl chokes on 32bit > compiled libraries. > > I feel there must be a simple solution. How have oth

Re: iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 16:33, H.S. wrote: >> Hello, > >> If I try to enlarge the fonts (CTRL+Wheel) in iceape of this website: >> http://gallery.menalto.com/ > >> the menus, or those little gray background windows, on the right hand >> jump

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brendan wrote: > On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: >> Brendan wrote: >>> On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: >>>> Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: >>>>> XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager.

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brendan wrote: > On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: >> Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: >>> XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager. But since both are based >>> on GTK, won't Gnome be equally fast? What is it

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brendan wrote: > On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: >> What I am so against is the fact that the US seems to think it is their >> right to go to other counties, where they do not have jurisdiction and >> kidnap people that *m

Re: GRUB duplicates kernel entries in menu.lst

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi you all > > I noticed this strange behaviour in grub, in etch and now in lenny. > > Every time update-grub is called, due to a kernel installation or > removal, menu.lst grows bigger. Installed kernel entries for (recover

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] >> Yes, I consider the USA my country too. I have dual nationality, so I >> am American and Dutch. I see the pros and cons of both systems of >> government, and I have no real preference to one over the other. But >> the media

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 04:40, Joe Hart wrote: >> Celejar wrote: >>> On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 >>> Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>&g

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:59:56 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Faith is by definition believing in something that cannot be proven, and >> that is what religion usually is.

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 06:26, Joe Hart wrote: >> Roberto ý wrote: >>> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:31:20AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >>>> My point is that God, if She exists, is beyond our comprehension. We

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: > XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager. But since both are based on > GTK, won't Gnome be equally fast? What is it that makes XFCE faster than > Gnome? > Good question. It used to be faster. Today, I don't thin

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:31:20AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> My point is that God, if She exists, is beyond our comprehension. We >> have to have faith in Her existence. >> > A valid point, except

Re: Removing Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/10/07 19:38, Eric A. Bonney wrote: >> I have decided that I prefer the KDE interface more than Gnome. Is it >> ok to just uninstall the entire Gnome package? Is there an easy way to >> remove them with just a single command

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> [snip] >>>> I

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/10/07 05:59, Joe Hart wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is "someone else killing >>> you", and I see that as a great slippery slope towards t

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:59:56PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Faith is by definition believing in something that cannot be proven, and >> that is what religion usually is. It is not wrong to believe in a >> f

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
ng. >>> >>> A >> Call the list ethicist immediately. Or better, send an e-mail... > > Joe! Joe! Where's Joe Hart! > > A Sleeping. I think he overdosed on sleeping pills or something because he doesn't seem to be active much anymore. Joe! Wake up

Re: help!

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:37:08AM -0400, Celejar wrote: >> On Thu, 10 May 2007 12:50:23 +0200 >> Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> Well, since some p

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:37:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> >>> I went ahead and downloaded the net install for Lenny, and have

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:50:53 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Joe wrote: >>> Joe Hart wrote: >>>>

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] > >> I say Germany is less free than The Netherlands. I can do things like >> post on the internet how one can download libdvdcss2 so they can play >> CDs. If I

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > [...] >> God help those who >> help themselves. > > > Sorry, but the wording of that strikes me as very funny. It /should/ > read, &q

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2007 18:24:42 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >>> Further reading: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki >> My understanding of

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > >> I went ahead and downloaded the net install for Lenny, and have since >> upgraded it to Sid. It works just fine, and the only differences so far

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 steef wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > steef wrote: > > >>>> I really just wish that Christians would adhere to the lessons that they >>>> so firmly believe in. But alas, we have a whole lot of people that seem >&g

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> >> So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no, >> people will start calling us the commies. ;) >> > > No, I didn't mean to say that's wha

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] > Can I tell offending *truths* or expres offending opinions about > others? Can I say "I hate Jews / Arabs / Asians / blacks / homosexuals > and I think that they should be stripped of their civil rights and > incarcerated"? Agai

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:46:23 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Celejar wrote: >> [snip] >>>>> Wh

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Celejar wrote: >> On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:14:44 -0400 >> Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The whole mission is a tex

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Atis wrote: > On 5/10/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:26:16PM +0300, Atis wrote: >> > On 5/10/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >I have tried twice

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Atis wrote: > On 5/10/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have tried twice (meaning I downloaded the file twice, and have >> verified md5 checksums) > > Can you mount it trough loopback device? > It was someth

Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I downloaded the business card .iso for i386 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and the 31MB file downloads fine, however, when I try to open the file with k3b to burn it to a CD (because this machine won't boot off of USB) k3b says i

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > > Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is "someone else killing > you", and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total > government control over life. > Well, it isn't. Neither is euthanasia there, but the government

Re: help!

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I just downloaded and installed debian 4.0 stable on my laptop a > couple of days ago, i've been playing around with it and its great!. > although i have been having a bit of difficulty finding a good guide > that expl

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:02:08AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Roberto � wrote: >>> No. A debianhelp.org forum would be much "better" :-) >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> -Robe

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I might as well fulfill my >> role. So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a lamb was >> sacrificed instead. Fine. So God demanded cruelty to an animal, which >> i

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 steef wrote: > > I really just wish that Christians would adhere to the lessons that they > so firmly believe in. But alas, we have a whole lot of people that seem > to do well on Sunday and forget about the rest of the week. > > Is it a turn the o

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:38:27AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> I don't think envy plays much of a part. Perhaps it used to, but thing >> like Katrina opened up the world's eyes to see how many real Americans

Re: strange "?" characters all over the screen in aptitude, mc and other ncurses programs

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Deboo ^ wrote: > Using Debian Etch stable version without X. Everything works fine > since installed a few days ago except that in aptitude or midnight > commander or even dpkg-reconfigure screens, I get lots of question > marks displayed with reverse

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric d'Alibut wrote: > On 5/9/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Come on, we all come here for "TOPICAL" discussions and bare metal >> Debian stuff. > >> I mean, I might just have to unsubscribe and find another venue to find >> my "fix

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:23:21AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:20:54PM -0400, steve reilly wrote: >> >>> im sure most people who subscribe to this list use more than one os, >>> suse and debian here.

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raquel wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2007 16:26:31 -0400 (EDT) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> It helps to know something of the context when reading the >> bible. The people who Abraham lived among (Canaanites, IIRC?), >> practiced sacrificed the "fir

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> Alas, The United States of Europe is on its way. I just hope I am dead >> before it is formed. >> > > P

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: [snip] >>> Why is the RIAA still able to get away with their fear tactics? >>> Because they know who to bribe. Centralized power creates a "target >>> of opportunity" for corruption. Europe is learning this the hard way >>> now, too.

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