Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 13:16:17 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > E.g.: > printf 01:02:03 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s\n' $(( $((h * 3600)) + > $((m * 60)) + $s ))) You still need to strip leading zeroes. hobbit:~$ echo 01:08:09 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s\n' $(( $((h * 3600)) + > $((m * 60))

Re: more trouble with HP Laser Jet Pro 4301 8023 CB

On 2025-07-10, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > I have no idea what to do.  I spent two hours on HP looking for any > explanation and could not get any help from them at all.  I cannot > afford another printer and I have three un-used color cartridges.  It > does say it is low on ink but according t

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

On 2025-07-11, Nicolas George wrote: > hw (HE12025-07-11): >> (S)FTP is still in use like for cameras, scanners (printers) and phones. > > Do you have a few examples of brand and models of cameras and phones > that use FTP? Some high-end cameras use it. Phones, not so much.

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:34:36 +0200, Michael wrote: > On Friday, July 18, 2025 12:52:03 AM CEST, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > As far as the code goes, I'd rather start from scratch. > > just out of curiosity: > > i don't like fix global return values (like $r in yo

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 00:31:17 +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 01:21:08AM +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > > OK, the Math is right, but the assumptions made by date aren't smart. I > > "overtested" your one liner with the kinds of input you would grab using jq > >

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 23:39:02 +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; OK. > _HHMMSS="19:09" > _HHMMSS="19:08" > IFS=$(echo -en "\n\b"); _SEKNDS_AR=($(echo "${_HHMMSS}" | tr ':' '\n')); > _SEKNDS_ARL=${#_SEKNDS_AR[@]} You

Re: SDD partitioning and allocations

On 2025-07-16, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 04:31:08PM -0000, Greg wrote: >> On 2025-07-12, Andy Smith wrote: >> > But for brand new devices I don't care what was on it before. >> > >> > You can construct a hypothetical si

Re: SDD partitioning and allocations

On 2025-07-12, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 03:38:11PM +0200, Me wrote: >> On 2025-07-12 15:19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> > Why do you recommend that? Are you assuming the SSDs songbird got are >> > used, or do you recommend that even for new SSDs -- if so, why? >> No

Re: Why are bug comment numbers multiples of 5?

On 2025-07-15, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > There i see #5, #10, #22, #33, #38 and various control mails without > a HTML label. Hijacking the thread here, but I've never understood the versioning numbers of kernels or browsers (after the first or second decimal point I mean). Anyway.

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-14, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 01:18:03PM -0000, Greg wrote: >>the old dinosaurs hold them in a certain disdain > > You don't understand irony, do you? > Sure. All the old hands (Hasler, Wright, tomas, Wooledge et. al.) are using Gnome, the default Debian desktop.

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-14, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> I think that's already happened, more or less. The issue is that to get >> my wife to use Debian it would need to be preinstalled [...] > > But that's why she has you, right? :) > Right, but her laptop is pretty much dead (won't charge any longer and has onl

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-14, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-07-12): >> That's fine as long as you realize you are in the vast minority. > > As long as you acknowledge that not being in the majority is not a flaw > in any way… I do completely acknowledge that. >> The

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On 2025-07-14, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 13/07/2025 23:06, Greg (curtyshoo) wrote: >> On 2025-07-13, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> >>> This is what I originally wrote on <https://wiki.debian.org/XCompose> > [...] >> The OP was specifically about Debian 12 with

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On 2025-07-13, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > This is what I originally wrote on <https://wiki.debian.org/XCompose> > (except that I suggested using include "%L" at the top, instead of > hard-coding en_US.UTF-8). > > Later, some people thought they were "impro

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On 2025-07-11, Chris Green wrote: > I'm running Debian 12 with XFCE on two systems. There used to be a > 'character' selection program in 'Accessories' on the menu but it > seems to have disappeared. How can I select the odd wierd character I > need now? Probably 'gucharmap'. Description-en:

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-11, The Wanderer wrote: > > I am not aware of any potential solution for this that has seemed to me > as if it would actually be viable. > > If I'm missing any that would, or if I'm wrong and some of the ones I've > dismissed as non-viable actually would be viable, I would be *actively

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 23:47:15 -0500, David Wright wrote: > You can write your own sequences, so that they are meaningful to you. > For example: > : "𝄫" U1d12b # MUSICAL SYMBOL > DOUBLE FLAT > : "𝄪" U1d12a # MUSICAL SYMBOL > DOUBLE SHARP >

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-12, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 03:25:56PM -0000, Greg wrote: >>You people are talking to yourselves. That's the problem which the OP >>is seeking to solve. > > It seems "you're welcome here" means "you're welcome so

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-12, Stephan Seitz wrote: > Am Sa, Jul 12, 2025 at 14:48:20 - schrieb Greg: >>That's fine as long as you realize you are in the vast minority. > > Fine with me, I don’t have a smartphone either and don’t use any social > media. > >>The thrust of the

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-12, wrote: >> The thrust of the OP seems to be directed towards the *majority* of >> *new* users, who ain't gonna be using Gnus to read this mailing list, >> please get real. > > If that's your criterion, what are you doing dabbling in Debian? > > The *vast* majority is on Windows the

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-10, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2025, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 19:34:58 +, Andy Smith wrote: >>> once alternatives are provided and >>> decently supported, people actively choose not to use email. >&

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 09:51:19 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 12/07/2025 05:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > 1) Configure a Compose key, then pressto make ° > > > > 2) Do a web search for something like "UTF-8 degree symbol" > > grep -i degree /usr

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 20:44:13 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I only noticed because I just needed a 'degrees' symbol. I've used > the character map accessory for years and would really miss it if I > can't get it back. I can't help you with your Desktop Environment accessories, but here are a cou

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-11, Loris Bennett wrote: > > So I don't think the issue is just "youngsters", who are in my > experience form fairly heterogenous group anyway, but more of a failure > of understanding what exactly a mailing list is and what its advantages > are. This problem may be exacerbated by the

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-11, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> I use a mail to news gateway (gmane) that I find more convenient than >> email (to tell the truth, I don't even know how people handle the shitload >> of emails flooding into their inboxes). > > A sieve rule to stuff all you lot into "INBOX.Debian-User" :) A

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On 2025-07-11, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 12:13:05 +0200 > Philipp Ewald wrote: > >> Am 10.07.25 um 15:14 schrieb Andy Smith: >> > I know a large number of people under the age of 20 who literally >> > say things like, "email is only for password reminders and my Steam >> > login code". It'

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

On 2025-07-11, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-07-11): >> On 2025-07-11, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > >> > If the target location is on a different filesystem, a "move" is >> > a full copy followed by a delete of the source. >> Is that true?

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

On 2025-07-11, Dan Ritter wrote: > > If the target location is on a different filesystem, a "move" is > a full copy followed by a delete of the source. Is that true? If the source is deleted as part of the process it's no longer a "copy."

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 13:39:44 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > When moving files on the same disk impression is, at least with dragging in > the desktop file manager, it seems instant. Whereas to another disk seems to > make new files. I guess that when on the same disk the OS changes only > something

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 19:34:58 +, Andy Smith wrote: > once alternatives are provided and > decently supported, people actively choose not to use email. *Some* people may choose that. The rest of us will stay here.

Re: Bugs?

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 07:13:48 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: > [A1] is that netinstall left /etc/sudoers missing and /etc/sudoers.d/README > empty -- there are no users at all. But that README file contains a strong > recommendation for using visudo, which no longer exists. > > [A2] is that visudo is

Re: Linux machine hit by ransomware

On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:23:29 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 7/9/25 22:14, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > In 30 years I've never seen an isolated network. May I ask how this > > might be done? > > Assuming an Internet gateway with 4 LAN ports and Wi-Fi, and a server with 1 > LAN port, turn off

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:08:05 +0200, hw wrote: > where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in? > > Even its man page is missing in Debian. According to packages.debian.org, the package "pure-ftpd" depends on the package "pure-ftpd-common", and the latter has all the man pages:

Re: Package identification

On 2025-07-09, Nicolas George wrote: > Felix Miata (HE12025-07-09): >> This may have nothing to do with Debian or any OS. It could be either >> firmware in >> the motherboard > > Nit: the firmware in the motherboard is an operating system. Is the firmware in the motherboard otherwise referred to

Re: Linux machine hit by ransomware

On 2025-07-07, Karl Vogel wrote: >>> On Sun 06 Jul 2025 at 22:55:22 (-0400), Rick Macdonald wrote: > >> After running Debian for nearly 30 years (and other distros prior to that), >> my Linux server has been hit by a ransomware attack about 11 days ago. >> I have backups, so nothing important has

Re: Folders from user suddenly in trash

On 2025-07-07, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 06 Jul 2025 at 19:51:01 (+0200), Hans wrote: >> > But the regular trash folder? My first guess is "the user did >> > that" (of course without noticing: "modern DEs" are complex enough >> > to make such a scenario plausible). My second guess would be some

Re: Folders from user suddenly in trash

On 2025-07-06, wrote: > > --jCWyQKq2ywsjtc7b > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2025 at 11:06:42AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: >> On Sun, 06 Jul 2025 16:41:47 +0200 >> Hans wrote: >>=20 >> > A

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

On 2025-07-04, Federico Kircheis wrote: >> >> In which case, I think you should install the equivs package (it's >> in every suite) and use it to build your own packages called >> libreoffice, etc. > > But wouldn't it break if I want to install libreoffice at a later point? > You would uninstall

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 18:15:42 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: > Oh; i was not aware of that, is it specific for apt? > man apt does not seem to mention it. > I'll try it out. Mine says: install, reinstall, remove, purge (apt-get(8)) Performs the requested action on one or mor

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

On 2025-07-03, Federico Kircheis wrote: > > I hoped it would have been possible to exlucde dependencies, for examle > by prefixing them with "-"; for example: > > apt install lxqt -meteo-qt > I'm only aware of '--no-install-recommends' as far as apt goes. In aptitude, you can press n or : and m

Re: more problems with su and sudo

On 2025-07-01, Titus Newswanger wrote: > I've had that problem once or twice where a newly created password would > not work. I've always suspected typos or undefined caps-lock state. I've had the problem. I have a en_US.UTF-8 locale and a French keyboard. Once, moons ago, when doing an alt-F1

Re: more problems with su and sudo

On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 21:36:14 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > The next time you log in, sudo(8) should work: > > $ sudo pia-linux-3.6.1-08339.run Even if sudo works, that command won't. It would need to be something like: sudo chmod +x pia-linux-3.6.1-08339.run sudo ./pia-linux-3.6

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

On 2025-06-29, Federico Kircheis wrote: > At the end of the day, I want to avoid a small subset or programs that > should not affect the functionality of the desktop (KDE should not stop > working if firefox is the default browser intsead of konqueror) and that > take a lot of space (I think l

Re: tput help

On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 18:28:31 -0400, Eben King wrote: > A while back I wrote a script to take the output of dd and make a graph of > the transfer rate. It worked, but since it scrolls up I wasn't happy with > it. > > In a bash script, I'm trying to use tput commands to delete column 1 (tput >

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*, so >> your proposal seems nonsensical or confusing, as the email has >> already been delivered to its recipients. > > I am not proposing anything. I am

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 13:46:40 -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > To be clear, what we're talking about here is what mutt does when you > > press the "b" key. It queues up a message for delivery, where the > > Bounce can

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list

On 2025-06-27, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg (HE12025-06-27): >> Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server* > > No, that is not accurate. Server rejecting a mail and server bouncing a > mail are different mechanism. What is a Bounce Email? Definition: A

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > To be clear, what we're talking about here is what mutt does when you > press the "b" key. It queues up a message for delivery, where the Bounce can and does mean a rejection of the email by the *server*, so your proposal seems

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:58:54 +0900, John Crawley wrote: > The Debian Wiki has these suggestions for how to deal with spam: > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#nominate The fourth option there says: * Use your mail client's bounce/resend/redirect functionality to send

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the >> original message"? > > By using the "bounce" feature of your MUA. Only good ones have it. > >> Does that mean forward the me

Re: SystemD ProtectSystem=full still can write File in /etc outside of WorkingDir or WritePath

On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:33:02 +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > is it normal that a Service started with systemd still can write files > ouitside it working dir? Depends on the settings in the unit file. Write restrictions are not the default, but there are settings you can use which will cause w

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 16:33:38 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote: > > if you want to do everyone a favour, you bounce the original message > > to to help the list spam team train > > their filters (I did). > This like sounds like good and important advice, but how

Re: Trixie xorg crash (was: Trixie hangs during boot after upgrade)

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 23:59:11 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > It seems that symlinks have been missing: > > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ln -s libGL.so libGL.so.1 > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ln -s libEGL.so libEGL.so.1 > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# > > cures the i

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

On 2025-06-21, Dan Ritter wrote: > > So you should make sure you have libreoffice-base, > libreoffice-base-drivers, and libsqliteodbc installed. According to the robot, you also need odbcinst and unixodbc as well as creating an ~/.odbc.ini file and creating or editing a ~/.odbcinst.ini file (if r

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 15:37:38 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer. However when I try to > install the required packages I get an error:- > > root@t470# apt install unixodbc-dev unixodbc-bin

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 22:15:21 +0200, 🦓 wrote: > Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: > > I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always > > just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I > > upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvan

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 18:20:37 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > > > Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me > > a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any > > settings want to retain, I have it give m

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12:09 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. That's definitely false.

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 16:57:11 +0200, Hans wrote: > Which of one I should not do? The advice is only to include sources for the current stable release, and not for any older releases. > I fear, that when deleting any entries of the previous release, it might want > to deinstall packages ("app

Re: Run script after package install, update

On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 12:14:30 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Well, I just plagiarised /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99needrestart: > > $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99redogrub > DPkg::Post-Invoke {"test -x /var/local/bin/redo && /var/local/bin/redo || > true"; }; > $ > > and wrote /var/local/bin/redo

Re: Run script after package install, update?

pkg-experiment root 487062 487061 0 11:19 pts/27 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/dpkg-experiment SUDO_GID=1000 DPKG_FRONTEND_LOCKED=true MAIL=/var/mail/root LC_TIME=C USER=root HOME=/root COLORTERM=rxvt-xpm SUDO_UID=1000 LOGNAME=root TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/us

Re: evince question

On 2025-06-12, Van Snyder wrote: > > Does "evince" have a "back" button like "okular" has? "acroread" has > one but one must find a switch for it in settings. > Left arrow works here. ctrl left arrow shifts the document 45° to the left, so that two ctrl left arrows produces an upside-down docume

Re: seeking new laser printer

On 2025-06-12, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 12:41:34PM -0000, Greg wrote: >>Way back when I was still in high school, I had a Corona electric >>typewriter (it had ink cartridges you'd slip in). If you made a typo, >>you'd insert the correc

Re: evince: link preview: set up size

On 2025-06-12, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >>> I really appreciate the `link view` offered by evince. >>> However, I find the window too small. Is there a simple way >>> to set the size of the window popped up by `link view` ? >> >> You can resize it manually by clicking and dragging the divider betwee

Re: evince: link preview: set up size

On 2025-06-12, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello, > > I really appreciate the `link view` offered by evince. > However, I find the window too small. Is there a simple way > to set the size of the window popped up by `link view` ? You can resize it manually by clicking and dragging the divider between

Re: seeking new laser printer

On 2024-12-08, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: >> > > I recommend Canon. I have a Canon TR4722 Pixma ink jet all-in-one printer. > Canon has drivers and a configuration script on their website. Setup and > configuration was very easy. > My experience with ink-jets are expensive.

Re: seeking new laser printer

On 2025-06-11, 🦓 wrote: > > Brother.com is the ultimate American Dream in typewriters and laser > printers, says MFC-L3710CW.czyborra.com. > Way back when I was still in high school, I had a Corona electric typewriter (it had ink cartridges you'd slip in). If you made a typo, you'd insert the cor

Re: seeking new laser printer

On 2025-06-12, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 04:17:26PM -0000, Greg wrote: >>I have a Brother HL-2350DW and it just worked without further ado. > > Pretty much any modern networked single-function printer will just work. > I've used canon and lexmark

Re: seeking new laser printer

On 2024-12-08, Eddie wrote: > > > On 12/7/24 16:21, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: >> If you are able, please recommend a black-and-white Postscript laser printer >> that will work well with Debian (Bookworm). After 29 years, I'm finally, >> and sadly, giving up on my HP LaserJet 5MP. At wor

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

On 2025-06-07, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> No amount of wishful thinking will persuade the universe to change the laws >> of >> physics. >> > "Engineers once believed flying at the speed of sound would be impossible" > - https://www.history.com It seems wormholes are theoretically possible and con

Re: tbird problem

On 2025-06-06, Andy Smith wrote: > > $ env | grep XDG_ > This command is much more informative than Dan Ritter's (which revealed nothing here). I mean, just saying. XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=LXDE

Re: tbird problem

On 2025-06-06, Dan Ritter wrote: > gene heskett wrote: >> The fly in that soup is that although I thought I''ve installed xfce4 as a >> task, htop does not find anything xfce4 listed as running.  AND all the >> fetch this and that stuff that has been listed in this thread, supposedly >> made to t

Re: Debian stable's screen suddenly became "larger" than the actual screen -- SOLVED!!

lem. Sounds like an option Richard Owlett might want to turn on (though I don't know how it works). But maybe it doesn't exist for Mate. > Thanks Greg! >

Re: tbird problem

On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 20:34:29 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > What is fastfetch? I haven't the executable or the manpage for it Open a web browser. Make sure focus is on the URL bar. Type "manpages.debian.org/" and then put the name of a man page you think might exist. For example, you could ty

Re: Debian stable's screen suddenly became "larger" than the actual screen

On 2025-06-03, intnsred...@tutamail.com wrote: > > I'm running KDE/Wayland (does the same with Xorg too) on Bookw > orm/stable and while using the system all of a sudden the screen > became "larger" than the actual screen -- like I was using some sort > of "virtual desktop." System Settings → Dis

Re: does debian-12.11.0 support adding i386 architecture

On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 07:23:57 +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: > Dear developers and users, > Please, is it still possible to add The I386 architecture by typing as Root > dpkg --add-architecture I386 > while working with debian-12.11.0? The architecture's name is "i386" with a lowercase "i".

Re: Setting up a Thin Client System with Dell Latitude E4300 and OVH VPS

On 2025-06-05, white-wolf wrote: > Hi, > > Apparently, the era of the Minitel is truly over... 3615 Code: Ulla. A friend from the US told me once in the eighties that looking up a phone number on the Minitel was slower than looking it up in the phone book. Now, there aren't any phone books anym

Re: tbird problem

On 2025-06-04, gene heskett wrote: > > Well, what I have I can use, I just have to learn this new way to use it. Maybe Tbird's in "Fullscreen" rather than being "Maximized" (F11). > Thanks Greg. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

Re: tbird problem

On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 11:49:21 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm using tbird 139, and it has grown vertically to expect the full screen > > of 1040 lines, meaning the bottom 2 tect lines that tbird uses for advirory > > msgs of attachment showing, are covered by the pager list and other such >

Re: tbird problem

On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 22:05:33 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On 03/06/2025 21:27, gene heskett wrote: > > I'm using tbird 139, and it has grown vertically to expect the full > > screen of 1040 lines, meaning the bottom 2 tect lines that tbird uses > > for advirory msgs of attachment showing, are c

Re: apt: WTH is a "second pre-image resistance"?

On Mon, Jun 02, 2025 at 13:49:05 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo > (managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle: > > Warning: http://debian.example.com/debian/dists/trixie-backports/InRelease: > Policy wil

Re: parallel gnu and parallel from moreutils

On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 19:43:39 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: > moreutils should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.moreutils, even if gnu > parallel is not installed(!) > > gnu parallel should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.gnu I agree with you. However, in order to make anything happen, you nee

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 18:38:31 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2025, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: > >> How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? > > > > echo "PKGN

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: > How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? echo "PKGNAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections Do that for each package you want to put on hold.

Re: How to set umask for apache2

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 15:34:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- > > chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf > [service] > UMask=0002 Shouldn't that square-bracket header be capitalized? [Service] instead o

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 19:06:22 -0700, accipiter wrote: > At first it didn't seem to do any good, mis-replicating the eth0 connection > when I killed that particular eth0 using its UUID. But then I tried killing > *both* eth0 connections, then trying to re-edit / create the eth0 connection > - an

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 20:46:37 -0700, accipiter wrote: > On 5/26/25 6:20 PM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 12:20:22 -0700 > > accipiter wrote: > > > > > it showed not 1 but 2 entries for eth0 - though with different UUIDs. > > > > If you are using Network Manager, you should no

Re: What file does Linux use to...

On 2025-05-20, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2025 12:04:16 -0400 > COMCAST wrote: > >> That's a lot of drivel... or are you just wishing to see what you can >> publish? > > It's rather good advice, even if it is a bit much and unsolicited. I'll > add to it: insulting people does not end

Re: Restoring fvwm key bindings

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 15:02:56 +0200, Detlef Vollmann wrote: > And I have to correct myself: it's not starting firefox that causes > the loss of the key bindings, but a specific web site. > It's my internet banking site, and it only happens after I login, > so I can't give you a a test page. > >

Re: Restoring fvwm key bindings

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 13:33:58 +0200, Detlef Vollmann wrote: > Key LeftA SM Scroll -100 +0 > Key Right A SM Scroll +100 +0 > Key Up A SM Scroll +0 -100 > Key DownA SM Scroll +0 +100 I don't know about these *specific* key combina

Re: What file does Linux use to...

On 2025-05-19, David Christensen wrote: > > When posting to a mailing list, the Subject line is crucial. Yours is No, it is not, and it should not contain essential information because hardly anyone ever gives it more than a rapid glance. And please refrain, now that we're giving posting advic

Re: Find e-mail address based on first and last name

On 2025-05-22, The Wanderer wrote: > > These days, I would be *surprised* if most mail-accepting domains *did* > have a postmaster address - and even more so if they actually had > someone monitoring it, or otherwise ensuring that mail sent to it didn't > just get dropped into the bit bucket. Cou

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

On 2025-05-22, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg wrote: >> On 2025-05-20, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk >> wrote: >> > >> > It seems you've encountered an obsolete wiki page (at the bottom it >> > says "AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps (las

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

On 2025-05-21, Csányi Pál wrote: > >> Please do update the wiki so that when I (and others) come to do the >> same (which I'm planning to do soon) we can benefit from your learning. "Update the wiki" can be interpreted in so many number of ways, particularly by the anal-retentive; FWIW I don't fi

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

On 2025-05-20, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > It seems you've encountered an obsolete wiki page (at the bottom it > says "AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps (last modified 2022-10-31 > 14:03:10)" ). The subject is being discussed in another thread at the > moment, but you can edit the wiki page

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On 2025-05-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed May 21, 2025 at 5:01 PM BST, Greg wrote: >> Why propose yet again the exact thing I proposed upthread (that you >> required me to spell out with ludicrous explicitness and that you >> described as unhelpful), as if you'v

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On 2025-05-20, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > ... I prefer ... the assumption to be that all > pages applied to the current stable release... Why propose yet again the exact thing I proposed upthread (that you required me to spell out with ludicrous explicitness and that you described as unhelpful),

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On 2025-05-21, john doe wrote: Then refrain from prolonging it.

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