the 13 CD's.
Are you sure? It seems to be on i386 CD 3.
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you and John are in fact talking about
exactly the same thing. John is just drilling down and trying to work
out ways of implementing it.
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>
> You misunderstood.
>
> > ...change dpkg...
>
> I proposed no changes whatsoever to dpkg.
What were you planning to do on upgrade? Normally, dpkg would set the
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arguments on public mailing lists, especially when I have to attempt to
read them over a tediously slow ssh connection from a conference in a
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Please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, at
the moment, comments about the installer on -user, bug reports or
otherwise, stand a good chance of getting lost in the noise from the
point of view of people experienced enough to answer.
tatus file.
>
> Sometimes.
>
> I'm sorry, but dpkg is the *fundamental* tool. If you don't honor its
> interfaces, you are *broken*. 'Nuff said.
Desired state of packages should never have been in /var/lib/dpkg/status
in the first place. (And yes, I've had this disc
ted too widely on Slashdot or whatever and
being held to the date, and that the social contract stuff has at best
pushed it back by a month or two; but anyone reading the message should
be able to work out what it meant.
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Quoted correctly:
"`echo "$i" | sed -e 's/mp3$/wav/'`"
A much simpler version of that if you know that $i ends with .mp3 is:
"${i%.mp3}.wav"
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On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 08:56:37PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> ...and then Colin Watson said...
> % On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 05:24:24PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> % > Aha! I don't have any such pool/ directory. I'll go and download that
> % > now.
> %
> % Right, yo
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 06:08:56AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> >Where can I find the .deb package for mplayer?
>
> In unstable.
mplayer isn't in unstable (yet, at least).
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conffiles. If you change any of those and
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F-1]}'|sort
> -o /tmp/gnu
> $ COLUMNS=222 dpkg-query -l \*|awk '/===/,EOF{print $2}'|sort -o /tmp/debian
> $ comm -23 /tmp/gnu /tmp/debian|xargs|fold -s|sed 's/ $//'
Why don't you look for source package names?
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Sorry, brainfart there; no, you don't.
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On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:19:29AM -0500, Michael Kahle wrote:
> Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote:
> > I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do
> > it; there are lots of ways it can break.
>
> I have heard this mentioned be
il a team turns
up to do security updates for testing, which is a hard and
time-consuming job.
http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing
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> ...and then Colin Watson said...
> %
> % On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 04:43:43PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> % >
> % > debootstrap --arch i386 --verbose stable /mnt/suse81 file:///mnt/empty/
> % >
> % &
oot fs on unknown-block(3,1)
This sounds like you forgot to compile in IDE support, or whatever's
needed for your disk.
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Can you show exactly what happened, rather than just saying "it puked"?
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y only
> need to have stable, testing and unstable?
You can safely use the codenames.
> And Greg, please think of machines running for a long time and upgrading
> automatically through a cronjob or something.
I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do it;
there a
#x27;s official packages installed, no
> selfmade.
Did you file a bug, or report this anywhere?
> there are more things in debian that are weird, like most /etc/init.d/
> scripts that doesnt give you any feedback (at least not to stdout)
Every Debian init.d script that starts a daemon s
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 06:08:14PM +0300, David Baron wrote:
> System seems to run OK without it.
>
> Forget it, or is it really needed somewhere?
It seems to have been renamed to usbhid.
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ost". You can tell this because both of these work fine:
(export COLUMNS=200; dpkg -l) | head
(COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l) | head
... as well as the more natural:
COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | head
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vote affected that, really. The
discussion has been almost entirely about what Debian should ship, not
what our users should be able to do.
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Easy? Delete key.
>
> Powerful? procmail. Or the Perl-based tool whose name I can never
> remember. Mail.
maildrop, I'm guessing.
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/etc/sysconfig doesn't sound very Debianish ...
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ce it relies upon some of them.
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.en.html#s-custombootscripts
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en anything similar under linux but then again I haven't
> really looked.
Drive letters are a really bad idea; Unix doesn't have them. You can use
'mount --bind' with Linux 2.4 and above to pretend that bits of the
filesystem are the same as
t.d/rclocal
>
> and reboot won't execute the script. If I do the same by hand it
> works. I aso tried placing the link in /etc/rc2.d bu had no luck.
Perhaps you forgot to make the script executable?
Much simpler just to add a link in rc2.d for ssh, though; you could even
use
x27;s good
style to quote metacharacters nonetheless.
There are no metacharacters in ^ii alone, so quoting there is
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> other packages are the criteria that the debian packager of an authors
> work uses to judge when it is moved to the next phase of readyness for
> 'stable'.
That applies to Debian packages, but not to third-party products being
ported to Debian. The usual
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 08:35:53PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> >On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 07:45:48PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
> >>Please tell us, because this is a very serious botch-up which makes
> >>Debian almost unusable for non-C-l
ause it doesn't work that way (I often define aliases for single
sessions, for example). Put those changes in your shell startup scripts;
that's what they're there for.
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ights for ttyS0 ?
> ==> Failed to open /dev/ttyS0
>
> How can i change my /dev/ttyS0 so that a regular user can use it ?
Don't change the device; add the user to the dialout group.
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explicitly pointed you to an individual package there. Packages in the
mentors archive are there because they're waiting for a Debian developer
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On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 01:50:14AM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
> Incidentally, I used shift L in mutt to send a reply and normally it
> won't cc you but it seems to have done - is there something in the way
> your setup is inhibiting normal behaviour?
See his Mail-Followup-To: head
configured proxy.
>
> There are software tools designed to do this, though I know of none by
> name.
'corkscrew' is one.
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On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 02:33:17AM +0800, cantona wrote:
> I am using locale zh_HK, the date is displaying in Chinese. (å 5æ 13
> 02:26:03 HKT 2004)
> I want to display the 'date' in C (Thu May 13 02:28:59 HKT 2004)
Set LC_TIME=C in your environment. See locale(7).
Cheers
gt;
> These two lines repeat very fast. What's wrong?
What architecture is this? The ramdisk size is too small; boot with the
ramdisk_size=16384 (or similar) kernel parameter to work around this.
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>
> Somewhere i read that an alias should never be an alias of itself,
> something like alias rm='rm -i'
Whatever you read was wrong; a word is not expanded as an alias if it is
identical to an alias currently being expanded.
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ed on it.(perhaps these rpms packages from redhat
> can't be used on debian at all).
In general they shouldn't be.
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>
> Does anyone have any pointers on getting software RAID working in
> Debian, preferably pre-install? Can it be done at all?
Very current daily builds of the sarge debian-installer (not beta4)
support software RAID.
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On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 07:54:22PM +0200, Pedro M. (Morphix User) wrote:
> For me, It wasn't so easy to upgrade. How can I see If I have upgraded
> my kernel to 2.6.X (i.e.).
uname -a
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That's the build date. Remember that the last stable release was
released in July 2002 ...
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ing db3 - No such file or directory (2)
> #
Debian doesn't use RPM. The sort of thing you're trying to do Just Won't
Work without a lot of manual hacking; if you're going to do that then
you might as well run an RPMish distribution to start with.
Use the Debian package mana
ut to no avail.
>
> Just as an aside, how do I get the proper diff output with filenames and
> line numbers and stuff, so that you can use "patch"?
Use 'diff -u'.
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On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 02:00:05PM -0700, Justin Souter, InkNoise wrote:
> Is there any information on when the current testing release will become the
> stable release?
Follow the debian-devel-announce mailing list for relevant
announcements.
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> so what is it?
>
> Please tell us, because this is a very serious botch-up which makes
> Debian almost unusable for non-C-locale users.
This is obviously not true, since the locale warnings you got were
merely non-failure-causing warnings, and not the source of the error ...
Che
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t time you can write this instead:
-e 's,href=/,href=http://google.com/,g'
... or pretty much any other sensible delimiter of your choice.
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> internationally distributed mailing list. Hopefully potential future
> employers see what kind of pointless hissy-fits you're prone to.
On the evidence of this thread you really don't have anything to preach
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On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:11:11PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 11:53:33AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I find it simplest by far to run mutt in a UTF-8 locale, at which point
> > it can deal with accented characters from a wide range of languages
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:10:45AM +0200, Giannandrea Castaldi wrote:
> and added in my .bashrc the following lines:
>
> export LC_ALL=en_US
> export LANG=en_US
> export LC_CTYPE=iso_8859_1
>
> Perhaps LC_TYPE isn't correct
I would expect LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 or
ok
> like boxy ... things).
Are you using a UTF-8-aware mutt?
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I bet you just need to upgrade makedev to a fixed version: 2.3.1-69
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On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 07:06:49PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 10:11:35PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > It took quite a bit of effort (several months and a complete cessation
> > of work on the new debian-installer) to whip the potato installation
> >
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 06:59:10PM -0400, xavier wrote:
> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:44:32PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > This is being worked on (by me) in the bug tracking system. It's not an
> > easy task, and not well-solved by tags.
>
> Thanks a lot, I guess you
; I guess a lot of them would have a "fixed in unstable" tag.
>
> Currently I believe there is no easy way to get this information.
> (correct me if i'm wrong)
This is being worked on (by me) in the bug tracking system. It's not an
easy task, and not well-solv
ohci-hcd if I want to use USB 2.0 devices as well?
The other way round.
> BTW, I also noticed that there is a usbcore module that uses uhci-hcd
> in 2.6.5 kernel.
usbcore is the bottom layer of USB support, required in order to use USB
at all. See the help entry
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:38:15AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:49:28AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Aside from that, I'm afraid you would have been necessarily ignored
> > until now. Without a working installer, there is absolutely no point in
>
rently generally have "companion controllers" which are
UHCI or OHCI, so you get both modules.
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>
> That is completely outdated.
What's outdated about it? It might not have been updated in a while, but
that's not quite the same thing. As far as I know, the advice it gives
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the idea (to some extent; "whatever state it's in" is frankly
asking for trouble, but we wouldn't have to go that far). Until now,
though, it has not been feasible.
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On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 02:35:21PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 11:27:23AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 05:54:38AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > > I have been following the discussion from bits here, from
> > > planet.deb
rogram,
> which asks me for a passphrase or a passcode, but does not properly
> pass it back to ssh-add (or ssh, for that matter).
That's a makedev bug. See #245718 et al.
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changelog.
sysvinit (2.85-8) unstable; urgency=low
[...]
* Do not run bootlogd by default - it's a bit to experimental for
the "stable" release. Can be turned on manually (closes: #217582)
[...]
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scary, the
d-i team will be releasing release candidate 1 in a week or so.
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's under "SCSI
low-level drivers".
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 06:07:21PM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:32:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:54:50PM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
> > > Sarge and 2.6 as the default kernel? Well, I'd guess like »never«.
>
at it may be made the default on some architectures,
although we're going to have to get a move on there (and I certainly
don't speak for Joey ...). We'll see.
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ecure !
> xscreensaver: (pam_securetty) access denied: tty ':0.0' is not secure !
This is a filed bug against pam.
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> I just installed sarge using the new installer last week.
[...]
> So: a) whoever's in charge of the installer,
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> Guess i missed the problem tracking when i assumed everything was ok
> with my old version of putty (0.5.1), sorry.
Aha, right.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/changes.html indeed
lists some crash bugs fixed after 0.51.
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d on this setup?
Serial ATA still requires a 2.6 kernel; support for it is scheduled for
inclusion in 2.4.27. There are 2.6 versions of sarge's debian-installer
in preparation, but they're still somewhat experimental ...
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; had to translate since my windows is not english.
Best report that to the PuTTY team, then. Whether or not a current
OpenSSH server triggers it, it's still a bug in PuTTY and should be
fixed there.
Are you using a recent version?
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is that after typing the username and password putty
> generates errors.
What errors? It's impossible to help without seeing those.
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>
> Hm... someone's assuming that d-i rather than the more normal boot-floppies
> is in use.
The guy said "a fresh install of unstable". It's a reasonable
assumption. Joey is familiar with installer issues :-)
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> pen drives at the same time, each one gets assigned to an appropriate
> name, say "/mnt/schoolfiles/" and "/mnt/fun/"? This would be
> convenient (tho not essential) for me.
Sounds like you want the LABEL= or UUID= syntax in /etc/fstab. See
.6 support has been added
recently; it's still raw, but sarge should release with a 2.6 option at
least on i386, maybe powerpc as well.
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have only started to receive attention relatively recently.
I'm afraid I wouldn't regard a Java benchmark as a remotely fair
assessment of any difference between Linux and XP in themselves, whether
or not millions of people use it. I also don't think that counting is a
very in
ckage had
> lots of modules.
>
> Is this reasonable? There have to be some modules, right?
The security update was broken. :-( The security team are aware of it,
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ot the
> new debian installer. So if anyone knows where I might find some
> documentation on this could you please let me know.
We don't have software RAID support in debian-installer yet, I'm afraid,
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er besides
> reopening the mailbox? The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
> not work. I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
> nothing.
'l' followed by entering '.' as the pattern works for me.
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as soon as the new installer's really and truly ready for prime
time (which, finally, is a goal that's in sight) we'll be going straight
into freeze mode.
We (the release management team) have begun putting together better ways
to disseminate release targets, but I don't expect
;unstable" isn't
> renamed to something else to dispel the stigma the name gives?
The name's hardcoded all over the place, unfortunately. Even if we
wanted to, it'd actually be rather a large amount of effort to rename
it, effort we could more productively spend in finishing
hould be "deprecated". While "depreciated" is a common
misspelling, that word actually means "reduced in value", such as the
way a three-year-old car is worth less than a new one.
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3.10a-26 | all
Closed bugs: 98215
--- Reason ---
ROM; no permission to modify and redistribute.
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ing is not being found in some search
> path. Help?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./scrape_test.pl 'Demolition Man'
> Can't locate XML/LibXML.pm in @INC (@INC
You're still missing libxml-libxml-perl, as before.
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d, however, it then has script errors before the install starts. So
> > I cant use this one.
>
> Debian doesn't make "sid isos" available, complain to whoever made them.
Be careful; nowadays we do make netinsts of unstable and businesscard
images that can install u
ld have caused this..
> shall i post a bug report?
It seems very likely that the files are the result of a maintainer
script bug rather than any kind of attack. However, you'd need to be
able to narrow it down to a particular package before you wipe the disk
in order to file a bug, real
[Please stop sending me private copies of mailing list mail. I read the
list, although probably not for much longer at this rate.]
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 09:17:15PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> >On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 03:21:42PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> >&g
en advised of this.
Que? If you're interested in something, subscribe to the *relevant*
mailing list. Nobody in Debian has an obligation to personally knock on
your door and advise you of everything.
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