Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:42:21 -0700 agr wrote: > I have been using Debian for almost 14 years continuosly, and i had to > transfered 1 server to OpenBSD, because the comments in this list are > uncertain; i can not wait for Jessi to do the transition. Could you tell us about this migration (eas

Re: screen 0: in putty title bar

2014-09-18 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:33:18 +0100 Apero Maxx wrote: > PROMPT_COMMAND='printf "\033k%s@%s:%s\033\\" "${USER}" > "${HOSTNAME%%.*}" "${PWD/#$HOME/~}"' Check ~/.bashrc for the right string. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:22:21 -0500 "T.J. Duchene" wrote: > From the sound of things, I'd very much like to give Debian 8 the > benefit of the doubt. I'll wait and see, if there are more posts and > not dismiss it entirely. Until more information comes in down the > road, it is probably prude

Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate

2014-09-18 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:15:57 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: [SNIP LOT OF REASONABLE THINGS (from The Wanderer)] I would add one thing to what you said, may be rants are filtered by devs (but that I doubt, intelligent people usually keep the temperature of their projects, even if the thermometer is gr

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-17 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:16:57 -0500 "T.J. Duchene" wrote: > The decision has been made by the > Debian TC. So be it. Yeah, the nsa also made the decision to infect a max of computers and phones among other things like spying on everybody… So be it? (usual defense: "if you have nothing to hide,

Re: No wireless support for RTL8192EE

2014-09-17 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:51:02 +0300 softwatt wrote: > That's also understandable, hardware is a pain in the neck. :) That's a bit overestimated, I remember those days when not adding the right switche(s) to a module left the HW as good as dead (especially TV cards, it was a real PITA: tuner type

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-17 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:34:19 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > The > island dates back to the end of the last Ice Age. And, sometimes, its mentality too ;-p) -- Chloé: What do you think about my font? William: Sorry, I don't talk font with a girl on the first evening signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-17 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:03:53 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > >> (:4748): Gtk-WARNING **: > >> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so: wrong ELF class: > >> ELFCLASS64 At 1st sight, I'd say that it needs a 32bits lib and found instead a 64bits one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: No wireless support for RTL8192EE

2014-09-17 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 19:01:59 +0300 softwatt wrote: > So, I cloned the repo, compiled and installed. > Now, network-manager does detect the adapter, but it says "device not > managed". If i run `iwconfig` in a terminal, the device appears as > "managed". The device is not detected by `ifconfig`.

Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate

2014-09-17 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:48:39 +0200 Slavko wrote: > > Alas, poor Slavko ;-) > > > > > > I am sorry, i don't understand your reply (my poor English). Oh, sorry. I was referring to a line from Shakespeare into Hamlet (when he grabs a skull and talk to him: 'alas, poor Yorick…') -- I just wa

Re: But there is a choice to not use systemd (war: Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community)

2014-09-16 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:36:51 -0700 Don Armstrong wrote: > Threats like this have absolutely no place on Debian mailing lists. Let it be, at this rate there will be blood (a lot) for Halloween ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: Replacement RAID hard drives - do they have to be "clean"?

2014-09-16 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:03:41 -0400 Ken Heard wrote: > My first question is: although both drives are the same size, can I get > away with having one drive a Seagate 3.0 and the other Samsung 2.0? Indeed, this is a very recommended configuration, as HDz of the same brand (and much worse: same bra

Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate

2014-09-16 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:17:19 +0200 Slavko wrote: > If yes, > then "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" ... Alas, poor Slavko ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: h

Re: trying to remove wicd

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:37:02 -0700 tom arnall wrote: > How do I get rid of the stuff? apt-get install wicd apt-get purge wicd -- Men94 : You've got MSN? Aerendil : No, but I have a STD if you want. Men94 : cool send it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:16:32 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > Sorry, I see only that he represented his views, which also happens to > coincide with my own. Please, if you have to label someone, you've > lost your argument's points from the get-go. :) Ric I don't wanna stigmatize anybody; what I'd like

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200 Bartosz Olender wrote: > I am not defending systemd programmers but, could you clarify what do > you exactly mean by bad programming practices? Creating weird situations about things that used to work well for _years_ (eg: the kernel debug switch), then put the

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug wrote: > Most of us are no interested in what Stallman or whoever created back > in 1995. We don't think of Linux as GNU. Ahhh, so you are the declared and _democratically elected_ spokesman of, let's say 80% of the Linux community (shit, I should read mor

Re: USB bootable debian stick wont boot on 890FXA-GD65 mobo.

2014-09-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 03:37:57 +0300 Alexandros Prekates wrote: > I wonder if my first mistake was that i used: > #cp debian.iso /dev/sdb1 > and not > #cp debian.iso /dev/sdb It was, the 1st one address a partition, when the 2nd address the whole 'disk'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: server backup

2014-09-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:56:35 -0600 Glenn English wrote: > What do you server admins use for backup? Are you talking personally or professionally? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: OT: gas plant (was Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy --> Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs))

2014-09-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:52:24 -0400 (EDT) david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: > for those unfamiliar with the french figurative use of the term gas > refinery ("usine à gaz"): > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine#Similar_expressions_worldwide Oops, thanks Wes; I sometimes

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:53:50 +0200 lee wrote: > Have you actually tested (with hot-pluggable disks) what happens when > one of the partitions the system is swapping to suddenly becomes > unavailable or difficult to access and what happens when the data (on > one of the swap-partitions) becomes co

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-13 Thread Bzzzz
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:09:58 +0200 lee wrote: > RAID doesn't provide data integrity even with ECC RAM. You still have much more chances to avoid writing a bad byte w/ ECC than with regular RAM, though. > It only provides redundancy (with some RAID levels). Use ECC RAM and a > file system that

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-13 Thread Bzzzz
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:56:48 +0200 lee wrote: > Multiplication is an algorithmic operation. Well, technically speaking, it is additions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy --> Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-13 Thread Bzzzz
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:46:31 +0200 lee wrote: All interesting things you said, plus a bunch of other readings confort me in my first impression: Linux was becoming too much secured for the taste of agencies (and which better candidate than a gas plant that hammers its looong claws down to… dbus,

Re: need suggestion on Virtualization backup/DR site.

2014-09-13 Thread Bzzzz
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:53:55 -0400 Rob Owens wrote: > There's a handy web interface. > If the machine to be backed up isn't reachable, it tries again later (1 > hour by default). > You can configure blackout periods, so no backups will take place > during certain hours. > You can override the bla

Re: Making keyboard remap changes permanent without reboot.

2014-09-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:53:57 +0300 Alexandros Prekates wrote: > I checked slim's log , xorg's log and . .xsessions_error > > No luck. But i think i narrowed the failure trigger to the instant > screensaver starts executing. Check also dmesg|less, /var/log/messages, Xorg.0.log, daemons, etc.

Re: need suggestion on Virtualization backup/DR site.

2014-09-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:57:57 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > Thanks for the input i really appreciate that. but i have a confusion > to clear. if i use direct rsync and rsync with Backuppc what is the > difference? First, backups are nightly compressed and same files are hardlinked, so keepi

Re: Making keyboard remap changes permanent without reboot.

2014-09-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:48:50 +0300 Alexandros Prekates wrote: > You are right. With fvwm the new settings are active all time. > With the default xfce window manager the settings are lost after some > time. Even if i reboot /etc/default/keyboard changes wont hold! > So i guess its an xfce's xfwm

Re: need suggestion on Virtualization backup/DR site.

2014-09-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:58:48 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: I would use backuppc through ssh with the rsync method; this way, your VM would be fully reconstructible, band width wouldn't be clobbered and backup(s) wouldn't take much place. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-11 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:22:01 +0200 lee wrote: > Why would you say that? root denied access to sysctl keys (that doesn't even exist on my systems). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-11 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:32:08 +0200 lee wrote: > Mounting swap partitions with the same priority does not provide > redundancy. As RAID doesn't provide data integrity w/ regular RAM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: Best way to "pin" a kernel

2014-09-11 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:27:46 -0700 Matt Ventura wrote: > Quick question: I want Debian to not switch Grub2 to a new kernel > when I update > it, since I have a custom kernel on a particular machine. When I > install a new > kernel from apt, I don't want to immediately use it. What's the > cleanes

Re: 32 bit color depth with NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)

2014-09-11 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:17:27 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: > I'm afraid this is not correct. If I use, say, the VESA server, I > can set color depth to 32 bits. This is correct, a tiny bit of self researches would have told you so (and if you don't trust me, try to get an integer number of bits dividin

Re: 32 bit color depth with NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)

2014-09-11 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 00:07:48 -0400 Carl Fink wrote: > NVIDIA driver downloaded today. "nvidia-settings" shows color > depth as 24 bit and offers no way to change that. > > I know this chipset is capable of 32 bit depths. What am I missing? You are missing 2 things: 1- color plans are 8 bits (ex

Re: Searching in PDF-file broken?

2014-09-10 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:34:16 +0100 Brian wrote: > My money would still be on mangled font encodings rather than defective > viewing applications. Yeah, evince says it is 'WinAnsi' encoded (those two 2 words contracted in one made me laugh;) Anyway, evince automatically substituted it with DejaVu

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-10 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:34:42 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > :~# sysctl -a|grep swap > vm.swappiness = 90 > error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register" > error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.route.flush' > error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush' You're system's

Re: Making keyboard remap changes permanent without reboot.

2014-09-10 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:02:04 +0300 Alexandros Prekates wrote: > Wanting to swap CAPSLOCK with CONTROL i changed /etc/default/keyboard > and following debian wiki page on keyboard i executed: > > sudo udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change > > It worked! But .. after some minute

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-10 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:08:31 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > That has been obsolete for at least a decade and may never have > applied to Linux. IIRC it had to do with specific characteristics > of BSD kernels. IIRC it was 1.5xRAM. Today, the only "obligation" is to have as swap as ram if you plan

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:21:07 +0200 lee wrote: > To prevent an undesirable state of the system due to insufficient > memory, you can use (a large amount of) swap space on a slow medium > because that may give you a chance to do something before processes are > being killed. Re-read what Don has e

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory > usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't > seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be. Anyway, a swap of 40GB is too much

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:57:26 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Yeah, but, whatever I tried, I could never get Debian 6 to swap. It > would just run out of RAM and freeze. But you ARE swapping (from your 2nd post): Swap: 428603401764372 41095968 if you weren't, the 2nd col. would be 0 and col1

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:40:29 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > "chacun à son goût" Unfortunately for you, I'm french native; so the real expression is: "à chacun ses goûts"; which is commonly shorten in: "chacun ses goûts" in a sentence. There's also a variant: "chacun ses goûts, la merde a le sien" *<;

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 00:59:29 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > could run a command, and, RAM that is not currently in use by programs > that are running, is freed? No, as the 'unused' RAM is in fact used for system caches. But you can change the swapping threshold: http://linux.cloudibee.com/2007/11/li

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:14:10 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hey, I like KDE4 > Chacon a son gout, as we might say in France :) No: 'chacun ses goûts'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:12:12 +0100 Brian wrote: > For a blank sheet of paper Plus90 or Minus90 don't matter. For a blank > sheet of paper with a letterhead or hole-punches it is significant. Shall we assume that the regular rotation is used? (that is: Plus = counterclockwise). -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:44:34 +0200 Thierry Chatelet wrote: > In PPD there is: > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90 > > Could that be it? Nope, I've the same in the PPD of my HP2100. Your PB might be related to a former order that switched to landscape (some printers save this in a non-volatile mem

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > last.) KDE 3.5 worked beautifully. Which is, of course, why it was > thrown away. ;-) I stopped with KDE when it came with the same look (and terrible "functionalities") as vi$ta ;-p) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:42:51 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > TDE can and does. Good to know that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140909164828.57462263@

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 10:31:14 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Don't forget LXDE and OpenBox, they're great too. If you really want to > get down and dirty, there's dwm and jwm. dwm is especially cool because > the way you change its configuration is to edit its source and > recompile. The only reason I'

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:53:37 -0700 Rick Thomas wrote: > And, I guess, that then begs the further question: I love to RTFM, but > what FM should I read for questions like these? Is there a FM for > configuring Gnome? Gnome is evil, baaad FGnome, change gnome (use XFCE, you won't regret it;) --

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 18:42:27 -0700 Rick Thomas wrote: > rbthomas@debian:/usr/bin$ gnome-terminal > Error constructing proxy for > org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling > StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal: > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn

Re: Restricted wifi after routine jessie upgrade

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:28:41 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom wrote: > Well, wifi-radar is available as a Debian package (though I can't find > a wifi-supplicant package), and I found the wifi-radar wiki, so I > suppose I can try that when I'm at the coffee shop next week. Or make > a special trip. Test

Re: Restricted wifi after routine jessie upgrade

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:33:01 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is it likely to be a systemd problem? Would it help to uninstall > gnome? I was kidding (as systemd devs have the same dick heads as the gnome ones: they KNOW what's good for you). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: terminal doesn't come up in Jessie Beta-1?

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:12:11 -0700 Rick Thomas wrote: > All seems well, except that the “terminal” application (the “root > terminal”, also) do not start when I click on the icon. > > Any thoughts on how to debug this? Install another terminal app (such as eterm) and test from it to see what is

Re: Restricted wifi after routine jessie upgrade

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:05:56 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom wrote: > Not quite true, it seems. Now that I'm back at home, it connects to > my home wifi just fine. So it looks as if I have trouble only when I > want to connect to a different wifi than I connected to last time. > This even though before

Re: Canon PIXMA mg5420 or HP Photo Smart 7520

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 19:06:26 -0400 ken wrote: > In need of a new printer, having done a bit or research, and > considering either the Canon PIXMA mg5420 or the HP Photo Smart 7520. Avoid all-in-one junks. Just for the story, I saw some completely refusing to work just because the scanner lamp w

Re: Suddenly no wifi after routine jessie upgrade -- further details

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:21:05 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom wrote: > I can't connect to wifi at all. Check the status of wpa-supplicant and test w/ another wifi wrapper (such as wifi-radar). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Forewarned is forearmed

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 15:43:46 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > My Wheezy machine doesn't run the loopback device lo on reboot. This > means I can't access my local Dovecot server. I reboot so seldom I > always forget this. I've wheezy and sid machines, none of them have ever encountered that. Either you

Re: black screen at start (if boot after a suspend)

2014-09-08 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:53:55 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Your laptop is using some form of hibernation/suspension -- > probably suspend-to-disk -- and when it tries to awaken from > that state, it is not reinitializing your video card properly. > > Fixing suspend-to-disk, or else configuring your l

Re: Make n-m not touch WWAN

2014-09-05 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:44:30 -0700 Matt Ventura wrote: > They're dissociable in that they share a control channel > (ttyUSB0 = control, ttyUSB1 = data, ttyUSB2 = GPS output) and they > share the rfkill. (Could it be a rfkill bug?) Anyway, you're right: fill a bug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Make n-m not touch WWAN

2014-09-05 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:12:32 -0700 Matt Ventura wrote: > I'll probably file a bug report somewhere about this, but in the > meantime, is there a way to just get it to ignore the card? Or does > enabling mobile broadband in the menu activate the card without really > doing anything? I don't want i

Re: in-kernel messaging (was Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-04 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 12:06:29 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > https://lwn.net/Articles/405346/ > https://lwn.net/Articles/484203/ > https://lwn.net/Articles/580194/ > https://lwn.net/Articles/537017/ > https://lwn.net/Articles/551969/ Thanks for these very interesting links. > Be sure

Re: apache2 what is the standard way to enable modules?

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:32:19 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > Oh oh, you'll have to explain that one... it went right over my head. > Just not clever enough to follow your wit. Not that nginx is way faster than apache, but it copes much better with a huge number of connections. The main (huge) diffe

Re: apache2 what is the standard way to enable modules?

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:19:35 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > cgi firing on all 8 cylinders. Comparing to nginx, I'd say: firing on 2 cyl/8 ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: ht

Re: apache2 what is the standard way to enable modules?

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:55:19 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > what is the name of cgi module? That would be very useful for the > `a2enmod' cmd. And for something real simple like making sure it is > installed. > > I see several files in [...]/mods-available with the string `cgi' in > them. None

Re: in-kernel messaging (was Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 09:26:48 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: [SNIP] So, where is the solution then? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140904024233.58e4f8f7@m

[SOLVED] - Re: FTB in QT5

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 23:24:02 +0200 B wrote: I totally missed this point: "use 32bits packages of all requirements since the Qt framework (Mingw compiler) is available only in x86 arch." Sorry for the noise. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

FTB in QT5

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
Hi list, I'm trying to compile pgmodeler (http://www.pgmodeler.com.br/wiki/doku.php?id=installation) from the tarball, but after a while, it FTB w/ this message: g++ -m64 -Wl,-O1 -o ../build/pgmodeler obj/main.o obj/application.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 /usr/local/src/pgmodeler-0.7.2/build/libutils.so

Re: in-kernel messaging (was Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 21:38:47 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: Thanks for your very clear explanation, Jonathan. > kernel support is pretty much essential to improve the performance of > dbus. Lots of data is being passed over dbus by apps nowadays, and > because it's an entirely userspace solution t

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:14:16 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: [SNIP] You are preaching to the choir, Wanderer ;) - From all that I read, my conviction is Linux was becoming way too secured, ssl too (despite of recent events), thus systemd will add weakn

Re: brasero requires systemd-sysv

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > I'd also like to know if there are any features of brasero that > *really* require systemd to be used as the init system -- features > that would not work with sysvinit. I'm hoping Michael or some other > developers can chime in on this

Re: Network speed drop down to 10MBPS for unknown reason.

2014-09-03 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:25:14 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > @Bzzz, cables are self made. Then did you respect the wiring code of colors, and what is the length of these? -- BTW, why don't you have optical fiber in your building? The last time I asked the property management company, they

Re: Can't reboot nor shutdown

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 23:26:32 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Can't help you with the error message but to shutdown, have you tried > the SysRq key? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key for > details. > > This often gives you all kinds of ways of getting around an otherwise > frozen system

Can't reboot nor shutdown

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
Hi list, on my latptop (lightdm + XFCE) I can't reboot nor shutdown properly; each command ends with a black screen with a blinking cursor at top left and that's all. I waited several times more than 5 minutes, hoping some timeout was there, but nope; stopping with the power button isn't very good

Re: SRA, secure remote access?

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 17:40:10 -0700 pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Can Debian support this telnet SRA login to another system? May be this could help you: http://helpdesk.princeton.edu/kb/display.plx?ID=1157 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:44:16 -0400 Doug wrote: > It didn't need systemd before, so why should it need it now? Hehe, because it sinks his claws deep and everywhere (it also plans to implant dbus _into_ the kernel (WTF? A kernel is here to kernelling and nothing else AFAIK), and also… a DHCP of

Re: 2 GDM3 questions

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:59:05 +0200 Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Background: When I login with GDM with an LDAP user GDM remembers this > user and present them the next time. I've used some testusers with > strange names and I would like to remove these users, because I want to > make an image of th

Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:33:12 +0200 Erwan David wrote: > Even if in some later version systemd works only with this kind of > scheme ? I join John about that, Debian as the very best packaging system, moving to RPM would clobber any hope to stay in the lead, despite the A grade quality of its mai

Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:06:29 +0200 Erwan David wrote: > So which lists are you > speaking of ? The systemd list, may be? OK, I ->[] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https:/

Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:04:45 + (UTC) Curt wrote: > You should worry more about your own assholes and morons (of course, > that doesn't "sell" to the gallery as well, now does it?) > > http://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2014/03/20/dgse-orange-des-liaisons-incestueuses_4386264_3210.htm

Re: Where's the log

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:33:48 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: Ok for file≠command, both of you; anyway, I can't find my messages into either of them (and the originals are too fast to disappear to be taken in picture by my smartphone:( Note that this isn

Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:05:33 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Maybe you should do some reading and maybe run Debian testing > http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/tso-and-linus-and-the-impotent-rage-against-systemd/ > Hmm, this (sad) article raises a crucial question that supersedes those a

Re: Where's the log

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:13:02 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > I often find that there is text in dmesg which - to the best of my > ability to determine - is not visible in any file under /var/log/. it is: /var/log/dmesg; furthermore, this file shows mu

Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:41:26 +0200 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Then again, endless spreading of FUD on a list that is powerless to do > anything about the situation, could, and should, be regarded as > trolling. There is a good reason to keep FUD heated: the bigger and the deeper the project is a

Re: Network speed drop down to 10MBPS for unknown reason.

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 18:44:39 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i am using wheezy 7.x and for some unknown reason my network speed > drop down to 10MBPS. > i can see anything in /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog > related to the issue. when i restart the server it back to normal > and shows a

Re: Where's the log

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:44:36 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > Did you already check dmesg? That's where I usually find the > messages which appear during a(n attempt at) suspend/resume. Of course, as I made a grep for 'pci' into /var/log … -- Thom : Today, if you download they cut off your Internet

Where's the log

2014-09-02 Thread Bzzzz
Hi list, when awaking my laptop from sleep (not hibernate), I see very fugitive messages about pci problems on a console. No time to read it before X comes back to display, but I think it is sleep problems with some devices; which I'd like to exclude into tlp configuration. After a looong grep of

Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-01 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:50:04 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > No, no. Make the kernel part of Systemd. And X as well. In this case, why not making only one package of the whole distro: systemd-all-in-one.deb-rpm-gz ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: backup drive has died.

2014-09-01 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:33:05 +1000 David wrote: OOPS, my bad (and many thanks for your links); it is working with the right switch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://li

Re: backup drive has died.

2014-09-01 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:33:05 +1000 David wrote: > smartmontools.org writes quite a lot on this topic: > > http://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/FAQ#SmartmontoolsforFireWireUSBandSATAdiskssystems > http://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/USB > http://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices Unfortu

[OT] - Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-01 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 1 Sep 2014 13:26:09 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html An article written by… one of the systemd devs……… We happen to learn that it'll also be _dependent_ on BTRFS and (may be?, when?) support EXT4 & XFS (bad luck, for it

Re: backup drive has died.

2014-09-01 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 11:01:41 -0400 Doug wrote: > Drives are cheap nowadays. Assuming you can get the data off the > drive, I can't see any good reason to trust it with your data > again, even if you can reformat it and partition it. were it me, I > wouldn't! --doug Glitches happen, Doug (especia

Re: backup drive has died.

2014-09-01 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 11:19:01 +0100 Sharon Kimble wrote: > Error mounting /dev/sde1 at /media/boudiccas/back1: Command-line > `mount -t "ext4" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/sde1" > "/media/boudiccas/back1"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: > wrong fs type, bad option, bad supe

Re: portability of jigdo

2014-08-31 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Rusi Mody wrote: > > Nowadays, P2P is the leader of this kind of download (the > > checksum insure no tampering of the whole). > > Dunno what you mean by P2P. Bittorrent? Yep. > My understanding is that jigdo and bittorrent solve different > problems (

Re: portability of jigdo

2014-08-31 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 18:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Rusi Mody wrote: > Looking around the docs I find that the easier part (1) is > undocumented (or I didn't find any) Watch your step! From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigdo: Jigdo is no longer undergoing active development, but is in "maintenance

Re: Errors at login : in which log can I get the message ?

2014-08-31 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:28:11 +0200 Erwan David wrote: > I submitted a bug, however I could not find those messages in any log : > why ? With people considering their mistakes something that others must fix, expect a speedy closing w/o any explanation… > If something is logged to console, it sh

Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-29 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:05:58 -0400 AW wrote: > Off topic... on topic... and unthinking... > > systemd has already won. Fork sysvinit or don't. End of comment. > Forever. For me... and leaving behind this useless mailing list -- too > much spam. > > Take it as you like. However, I'm out. I n

Re: the Mysteries of asound.conf

2014-08-29 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:53:44 -0500 "Martin G. McCormick" wrote: > That worked like a charm as far as I can tell. Thanks to > both posters. I actually used the wrong module name for Card 1 > and what happened was that the system came up after a boot only > showing Card 0 and no Card 1 at all

Re: the Mysteries of asound.conf

2014-08-29 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 08:38:59 -0500 "Martin G. McCormick" wrote: > Since the two sound cards are different in every way but > their function, anything that differentiates one from the other > should cause a predictable result every time. You have to fix that yourself into etc/modprobe.d/(le

Re: xserver-xorg-video-trident broken for cyberblade/XP

2014-08-28 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Beeblebrox wrote: > I placed on the linux line of grub.cfg > acpi=force lapic=debug > to no avail. Do you have any specific suggestions? Also try acpi=off (! may broke the boot) Here's a bootparams list: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-

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