A previous version of "at" started its at-jobs with a nice of 2 and its
batch-jobs with a nice of 4. The latest doesn't nice at-jobs at all and
only has a nice of 1 on batch-jobs. I quite liked having these jobs
put somewhat in the background. Could this be reinstated?
Also, batch jobs are now
> I just checked again. It's not there. I get all the other directories but
> nothing under Debian.
>
> I just got a msg from Christian saying it may be an ftpd error.
>
> What did you use to check this?
I logged on to master directly and checked.
Bri
> I was downloading bo from frozen on master. It should have taken about 4 - 5
> hours. I reduced my terminal and did other things. about 18 pkgs were
> recv'd when, evidently, the entire Debian directory tree disappeared.
I just checked...
master:8 - ~/Debian/frozen/binary> find . -type f | w
> Has wine been pkged for deb? If so where can I find it?
> Have a good one.
You can find a really old version of wine in project/experimental.
I have a newer version compiled on my machine and will be uploading
a new package before the release of 1.3.
Since Wine isn't really useful as a tool, y
> > The latest mime-support (2.12) will work much better with lynx since
> > it tries to use tests that lynx can recognize internally without forking
> > an external process.
>
> Where is 2.12 available. I can only find 2.11 on my nearest Debian
> mirror.
It was stuck in incoming until this mornin
> The odds that Mr Iannarelli is starting this thread just to
> concentrate the flammage, flak and junk into one thread which he can
> easilly killfile is astronomical =) This is especially probable given his
> insistence on exact spelling in the subject...
Excuse me, but this is completely uncal
> Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start?
It takes forever because they both read the entire file and run every
single test condition they encounter.
The latest mime-support (2.12) will work much better with lynx since
it tries to use tests that lynx can recognize internally with
Those are all points that have been brought up before and will be addressed.
Thanks for the input!
Brian
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It is my pleasure to announce the formation of the dselect replacement project,
code-named "deity". The project will be made up of the following 7 people:
Project Leader: Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- General organization, dispute resolution, final say on "capabilities"
Chief Prog
As part of the facelift for Debian 2.0, I'd like to offer an improved
interface as an alternative for "dselect".
To this end, I'm going to be putting together a team of people to produce
such a product.
If you would like to work on this, please let me know and tell me what
resources you have (mac
Here's mine...
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* (^TO|^X-Mailing-List:.*)debian
* !^TObcwhite
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* (^TO|^X-Mailing-List:.*)(board|debian-board)
Filtered/debian-board
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> is Bo frozen already? When Rex got frozen I received a message from
> Debian-Announce saying so. I also read in www.debian.org that Rex
> was frozen. I think I have heard that Bo is frozen but I have not
> checked the FTP sites yet.
Yes, it is. It was announced to debian-user, but not debian-an
I'm not sure if this was announced before, so...
* * * * * * * * * * * * *
Bo has now been officially frozen! If you'd like to start upgrading
to the packages in that distribution, please do. We can use all the
testing we can get. People who
> I don't understand you fuc**ng ppl!
Okay, let's all just take it easy. Yes, the original mail was a little
overbearing but this doesn't help calm the situation.
It's really easy to take what is said in email more seriously, more
condesending, and more rudely than the author intended (with blam
> I looked on my CD for a netscape...deb file, but didn't find one, so
> just downloaded a copy of netscape from netscape and loaded it.
You can find the netscape installer packages in the contrib section.
Brian
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> I am a newbie, but i would like to install perl on my
> debian system, can anyone tell me where it is located
> and how much space will it take.
Try debian/bo/binary-i386/interpreters/perl_5.003.07-8.deb
It will take about 5MB installed.
Brian
> Has anyone used Zyxel(?) it is in the unstable directory and looks a lot like
> mgetty (v,and the fax stuff). Has anyone used vgetty and had it work
> *with out problems*. I asked earlier about using my linux box as an aswering
> machine and got tons of messages telling me to use vgetty and now
It seems the "tifftopnm" and "pnmtotiff" programs are missing from
the latest netpbm. What happened to them?
Brian
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> I Loaded something like
> netscape-v30-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
> I got the exec-ready-to-use file
> I ran it .. and it said: Floating point exception (core dumped).
> Haa. It was too simple to work so easily ! What is wrong ?
> Is there a better release without any problem for linux
I upgraded to fvwm2 today and ran into a few problems. Some of these may be
worthy of bug reports, but I thought I'd mention them here first.
- The postinst of fvwm2 fails if you ask it to convert fvwm1 rc files to the
new format and gawk is not present. fvwm2 should either depend on gawk o
> I get the following message when I install packages
> like xanim, imagemagic, etc:
>
> Error: '/etc/mailcap' is not in required format
>
> What is wrong?
In order for mime-support to work, it requires a specific format of
the mailcap file. I suggest you re-install mime-support and make sure
t
> Yep, it's 2056. In fact I set plug-gw up on www.debian.org and assigned
> it a new IP address so it could be canonical, only to find that the
> protocol is changing to an undocumented UDP-based system for no good
> reason. See http://zero.genx.net.
>
> Anyone have ideas about what how to handl
> Also, NetScape takes about 5 minutes to start if you have
> mime-support installed. It seems to run /bin/sh for every entry
> in /etc/mailcap and it doesn't like what it finds in there at all.
> Eventually after spewing a bunch of error messages, it settles down and
> runs. I've had to temporar
> From: "John T. Larkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Harvey Mudd should be producing somewhere between 3 and 4 M kps by
> > tomarrow. Right now, most of us are running under [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > but we can change that if Bruce still disagrees with our possition.
>
> I asked the people at Zero to lu
> I think it would score a lot of PR points for Debian to place, or win.
> Debian is a Linux distribution. Our win is Linux's win. Our win is the
> FSF's win. Our win is even, to some degree, RedHat's and Slackware's win,
> because they serve a similar market with a similar product. Microsoft
>
> I now have my printer (Canon BJC-4100) working under Debian. It was
> really easy; only one tricky part.
We're running an HP-850C as a network printer using the cdj550
driver of ghostscript. Works great!
Brian
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> My new installation (1.2.1) no longer compiles via gcc. The system error
> message is:
> 'gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory'
> Any clues/hints?
Try running the gcc command line with "-v". This should tell you what
program it cannot find.
I'm just coming into this conversation, so please forgive me while I
get up to speed on this...
As I understand it, Bruce proposed...
- Debian would have an specific "ultra-stable" CD image that anybody
could use.
- Debian would have an "Official" logo which it would let people put
on th
> I just installed Netscape 3.01 for Linux, and it looks not bad. The
> problem is screen sizes. I'm running XFree86 3.2 in 800x600 mode with the
> fvwm95 manager, but whenever I open the mail window, it won't fit on the
> screen. Not to mention that I can't figure out how to get past 256 colors
> I think this a simple enough question, but even my Unix teacher can't
> answer it. I just installed Debian on my 586 Windoze machine, with a 200mb
> partition. The first time I installed it on 100 megs but I ran out of
> room. My question is how can I check how much space is left on my Linux
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Brian C. White wrote:
>
> > Please, PLEASE, correct this! Either set all the ttys to use BS (^H)
> > as the rubout character or fix xterm to send DEL (^?) when the backspace
> > key is pressed.
>
> For what it's worth, I used to have
> Perhaps we can obtain the Tip of the Day database from Micro$oft Word. We
> all know there's tons of useful information in that databank.
Like the "Never run with scissors." one?
Brian
> it seems that netscape has problems when the environment variable LANG
> is set to de_DE. The postscript file produced by netscape isn't
> correct in this case
>
> e.g. With LANG variable set:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] translate
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] scale
>
> and
> less does not do backspace and delete correct, when having the
> variable TERM=xterm set.
>
> While using the search command backspace sends delete and delete sends
> ESC[3~. With TERM=linux it's ok.
> Backspace and delete are doing the right thing in the command line.
Actually, backspace is no
> > Note: You DEselect what you want to remove. When I first used dselect, I
> > unselected everything and then selected the packages I wanted to remove.
> > You can guess the rest...
>
> That probably should be clarified:
>
> You select for removal or purging those packages you don't want.
> Y
> Does Java support work in Netscape 3.01? It's bus erroring for me
> whenever it hits an applent and java_301 is in the right place.
It works fine if you install it using the Debian installer package for
netscape. It's in contrib.
> :> Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01? In
> :> particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I
> :> need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc.
> :
> :If you install it with the Debian package (in contrib), then it works
> :just fin
> > Ok, so somehow I downloaded a lot of stuff I just don't want, like X, emacs,
> > TeX, and a host of little things like the little calculator program... I
> > fire up Dselect and go to remove, and then it comes back to the menu screen
> > with Exit highlighted. Is this normal?
>
> Yes, because
> Mainly breaking it up a little more into categories would have let
> me build the system I want better. Like, I could go into a Utilities menu
> and choose editors and then choose vi and pico, but not emacs. Then go back
> and under networking go to mail and get pine, then back up and g
> Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01? In
> particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I
> need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc.
If you install it with the Debian package (in contrib), then it works
just fine.
> > Secondly, how much faster can I see between the 28.8 modem, ISDN,
> > T1, T2 , etc. I'd also want to know what should I need from the
> > ISP in order to setup the connection between my Debian/Linux box
> > to the ISP. All the ISPs seem to support only WFW3.11/95/Mac/NT
> > and not
> Is there any Linux / Debian support for the APC UPS PRO series ??
> If so, what package/program should I be looking for ?
I just uploaded "genpower" into unstable in December. I've been using
it on my APC Backups-Pro 420 for several months. It works great!
Included in the docs is a specificat
> Has anybody used GNU cfengine? I don't really know what it's capable of, but
> it's
> a free part of Debian. I was considering using it myself, but I haven't had
> time
> to investigate it properly.
We use it here to maintain about a half-dozen Debian machines. It
works great for managing p
> I am currently considering the purchase of a colour inkjet printer,
> for text and graphics printing (including images from Photo-CD). I
> would be interested in experiences people have had in using them with
> Debian - the models I am currently interested in are the Epson Stylus
> 500 and Stylus
> > Instructions for turning on recognition of the color change escape
> > sequences is in the xterm man page.
>
> Yes indeed. And that means you need this resource line:
>
> XTerm*customization: -color
>
> in your /etc/X11/Xresources file or your user Xresource file
> if you don't want
> > None of these are technically supposed to depend on mime-support. They
> > should only test for its availability before calling the "install-mime"
> > program. This is documented in the "install-mime" man page.
>
> Well, I can only speak to the needs of the pine package. /etc/mailcap is
> pro
> Anyway, the main trouble seems to be that the Debian-1.2 /etc/mailcap has
> grown to a rather ridiculous size as compared to the version provided with
> Debian-1.1.xx:
> cut-here
> [root]/root > v /etc/mailcap*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root
> Is there a debian package of wine? Seems like I saw this question a
> month or so ago & I thought I saved the response, but I can't put my
> finger on it at the moment.
Yes. You can find it under project/experimental. It isn't really
useful yet and so isn't kept scrictl
> I recently installed xterm-color, but now ALL my xterm windows have a
> nasty green cursor in them... is there ANY way to tell xterm to use a
> specific cursor color, either for each window or globally?
You can get all this from the xterm man page, I believe, but here
are the lines I put in my .
> The International Version of PGP is a slightly modified algorithm with
> fewer bits. Currently, it is illegal under the Data Encryption and
> Privacy Act (modified) of 1995 to export encryption programs which use
> 56+ bits outside the United States.
The international versio
> As the package simply installs the program downloaded from Netscape, you
> can also install the program yourself in the /usr/local/ tree.
It also makes a few changes so it can find the proper system files.
Br
> With the discusion of Wine, I was wondering if a Wine package was in the
> works?
There has been a Debian package of Wine for many months. It can be
found in "project/experimental". I don't update it very often because
I haven't found it to be in a useful state as of yet. The latest
one seems
> I know that the directory tree on ftp.debian.org is in a state of change
> with the upcoming release of v1.2, but I have spent two hours looking
> for the 'netscape-v301' package. Could somone point me to the
> correct location? I'll be fine from that point on (I think 8-).
It's in "contrib".
> Thanks all for suggestions on trying to get the MS Word Viewer to run
> under wine. I've finally given up! :(
> WINE segfaults under wordview.exe now. (At least it starts to execute it..
> before I got the share errors)...
Wine is still very-alpha. In addition, if you installed the wine packa
> what is happening to the debian distribution? is it folding?
Absolutely not. Debian is strong and growing. This entire mess
was actually a bit of a growing pain with different people having
different ideas about what would make Debian the strongest.
There is no cause for concern regarding the
> This thread seems to have appeared in the debian-user lists a little
> like a bolt from the blue. I am a very keen Debian user and
> proselytiser and I'm sure that many of us are very concerned about the
> future of Debian re. what we have read.
>
> I don't want debian-user to become a war zone
> I've thought about this for many hours, and I'm afraid I agree with Ian.
> If we release with XFree86 3.1, that will be the last Debian release ever,
> because we will have blown our credibility. We just can't afford to do it.
> So, I'm afraid I really must accept the resignation you offered yest
> Thank you for your suggestion, it seems a very good one. I will try it
> in the evening (at home).
>
> >Netscape is unable to allocate colors for its display. Try doing
> >"netscape -ncols 64" and see if the "unable to obtain" erros go
> >away. If not, try numbers smaller than 64 or close some
> > box. I would like to be able to browse the ftp site and
> > find out how big a package is going to be once it is installed
> > *before* having to download it.
>
> Just download the Packages file for each distribution. The installed
> size is the 'Size' field. The size of the .deb you can get
> > I tried to connect and then choose ftp from the dselect access menu but
> > I couldn't get the pppd to connect right. as far as I can see everything
> > is exactly the same (Except lots of stuff that should be in /usr/bin and
> > /usr/sbin is in /bin and /sbin instead.. pppd and chat are i
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I want to install Netscape in my Debian-Linux 486DX2 (66Mhz).
> $ netscape
>
> unable to obtain ... (I do not remenber exactly something about colors)
>
> unable to obtain ...
>
> bus error
> $
>
> Can you help me?
Netscape is unable to allocate colo
> One of my "default system" users (www-data to be exact) can't log in.
> My other users can.
Make sure that the shell specified for that user in /etc/passwd is
listed in the file /etc/shells.
> I don't see anywhere that this user is not allowed to log in to FTP.
>
> What must I do to allow tha
> I wan't to install debian now via etherlink.
> Which programs do I need for that ? [ dselect , dk??-ftp , ... ]
> And were are they ?
You can also use the "dftp" package that is available under "rex"
and "bo".
> Hold on there. When was Debian 1.2 released? Inquiring minds want to
> know..
With a little luck, it _will_ be released this Wednesday. It has been
frozen since early November.
Brian
> Problems: some packages need hand editing of some config files in
> /etc. This could be handled by cfengine, which can be run by the same
> cron job after dftp. Another problem is that I *think* dftp can only
> do ftp. This is a nuisance when your upgrade center doesn't have
> anonymous ftp. If t
> Prior to the freezing of rex, "unstable" (rex) contained all of the
> physical files of the distribution.
>
> Now, "unstable" is "bo", and it has many links back to rex.
>
> At what point will "bo" loose the links to rex and be self-contained
> again?
The plan is to leave symlinks from "bo" to
> I have been looking for the netscape package under rex but can't find
> it. Where is it?
The 3.0 version is in "contrib". The 3.01 version still hasn't made it out
of Incoming (to my knowledge).
Brian
This is a reply from Mark Burgess (esteemed author of cfengine) regarding
your question on cfengine...
Brian White wrote:
This message was posted to the debian-user list. I thought you would be
interested.
>
> I must admit, I've been a little lax in keeping the version of cfengine
> that is av
> Why didn't you use the available netscape and jdk packages? Just
> pick up jdk-static, jdk-common, and netscape from non-free and try
> again. That's what I did and it works beautifully!
Netscape is actually in "contrib". If you're using the new libc5 and
want to use Java, you'll have to wait f
> Also, I missed the instructions on how to get Netscape working. I'm using
> 3.01, and its crapping out whenever it hits any Java. Can someone repost?
Use the Debian package for Netscape 3.01. I beleive it's still in Incoming
at the moment.
> Qt forbids anybody from modifying their source code. So what
> if they changed their license when they've gained enough momentum?
As far as I understand it, you can release code with a new licence, but
you cannot change the licence on released code. Thus, if they changed
their licence we would
> why there is bo in the ftp site? Is it the same as rex?
Rex has been frozen so only bug fixes are going there. It should be released
as stable in a couple weeks. Bo is the new unstable tree.
Brian
> > I strongly doubt that KDE has the momentum to succeed. It's based on
> > Qt, which is a proprietary standard. Granted the implementation is
> > delivered 'free for noncommercial use', but I don't see that as a
> > significant difference. It's still a proprietary toolkit, which will
> > keep t
> For 3 or 4 days, I've had CGI-modules marked for upgrade in dselect:
>
> *** Opt net CGI-modules 2.75-4 2.75-5 modules for perl5, for
> us
>
> And yet dpkg-ftp doesn't even try to upgrade it:
>
> Is this a bug in dpkg-ftp? Or is this a case problem? The file on the
> ftp site
> does anyone know how i can set the default window size for netscape?
I start netscape like this:
netscape -geometry 1137x990+3840+1024 -ncols 64
Every new window it starts has those dimensions. The large offsets
cause it to come up in a different virtual desktop since the above
comman
The new version of efax (08a-1) no longer accepts the "-l" flag for
the 'view' and 'print' commands. If I try to do anything with the
faxes I have (all received by the older 07a version) everything gets
compressed onto the top of the page.
Is there any way I can fix this, or is it a bug?
> I recently wondered why my Netscape is so slow to start. I found that
> some Debian packages adds entries to /etc/mailcap many times and
> Netscape is *very slow* in processing them.
You can find out what has installed itself into /etc/mailcap by running
the command:
install-mime --list
> > libc5_5.4.7-7 will be in the archive soon, and it includes the older
> > malloc as a seperate library for buggy software like netscape. You'll
> > be able to run netscape like this:
> >
> > LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so netscape
> >
> > and java apps will work.
> >
> > The path m
> Xfree 3.2 is out, and I just noticed that there was a code
> freeze for Debian 1.2. So, is there any plan for including Xfree 3.2
> in Debian 1.2 ?
Xfree 3.2 is too big of a change to get done by Debian 1.2. Expect it
standard in "unstable" and the next "stable" release.
> Run xkeycaps with its output redirected to a file called Xmodmap.new.
> Change the mapping of the BS key to mean 'Backspace' rather than 'Delete'
> and then write all of the keys out. I then take this Xmodmap.new file
> and move it to /etc/X11/Xmodmap. This works fine for all the
> applications
> > Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package! Actually,
> > all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file.
>
> People have kept saying this and everyone assumes that the person asking
> knows how to point Netscape to XKeySymDB. First of all, I tried u
> > Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package! Actually,
> > all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file.
> >
> > This probably the case for other Motif apps, too.
>
> And how can we do this?
The netscape package is available under contrib.
To use the
> > I am using the latest version of Debian (brand new system installed
> > yesterday). Is there something to be done to properly set up X?
>
> I found that Debian/XFree86/whoever by default maps both the BS and Del
> keys to , which is irritating with Netscape and when logging in on
> other compu
> sun\bject line pretty much says it all. I like the debian
> install mechanisim!
There is a netscape installer for v3.0 under "contrib". You will still
need the original archive from Netscape, though.
> I tried LyX and sometimes run Netscape, and they show the same problem :
> when trying to erase a character with backspace, the current character is
> erased instead of the preceding. ( just as DEL does in a Microsoft
> environment). It's very disturbing, and other apps don't have this
> problem
> > So, I think libc 5.4.7 should be removed from rex and downgrade to 5.2.x.
>
> Thats the point of REX isn't it? to be the latest of the stuff... if you
> upgrade, and RECOMPILE against that libc5, your problems will go away.
> I have had NO PROBLEMS with that version! None! You must be runnin
> There recently has been a flurry of messages on netscape
> problems with debian. Much of it was contradictory.
> Becoming concerned, I tried installing netscape 3.0 and
> 3.01b1 with libc5 5.2.18 and received "Bus error" when
> trying to run. This was with both a hand installation and
> the deb
> I'm trying to send faxes via either efax or mgetty's sendfax with no
> success.
>
> I started by using efax's "efix" to generate some group-3 files. Once upon
> a time efax would try to send them... now it isn't even able to dial.
You don't need to call "efix". The "fax" script will do it for
> Once I upgrade libc to 5.4.7-1, netscape cannot run and it said
> bus error. Then I downgrade to 5.2.18, netscape runs again.
>
> Is it a bug?
Yes, but it is a bug with netscape. You should report this directly
to netscape and tell them to compile against a later version of libc.
You can do
> We plan to install the debian distribution in the whole network. I was
> looking for a master installation script to run the installation
> process automatically from a nfs mounted directory or via ftp. Are
> there any solutions for that.
We maintain a small network of Debian machines here, but
> Hi, I noticed that the .deb in rex is for 3B4 Is that what people are
> running today? Will that deb (which requires you to download netscape) work
> with other releases?
The primary site has not netscape packages under "rex". There is a package
for netscape-3.0 under "contrib".
> I was wondering if I could use Linuxconf on a Debian system? If not,
> please explain. I think as new user, it would be nice to have admin.
> tool to control most of system config. in one setting.:-)
"cfengine" is nice if managing a network.
> Is it common knowledge that the search engine isn't working on
> www.debian.org?
You can search the Debian site at:
http://insite.verisim.com/search/Debian/simple
This does not include the archives, though.
> > Well, I'm not sure that installing the most recent one is the right
> > answer. Take ghostscript for example. There's the GNU version in
> > .../text and the Aladdin version in .../non-free. Now the GNU version
> > should always be <= the Aladdin version since GNU repackages the
> > Aladdin
> I installed the msql package and it tries to start itself from a script
> called "run-msqld" in /usr/sbin. The script runs msqld, waits for
> it to exit, mails a crash report to "msql" and then waits 15 seconds
> before trying to spawn it again.
>
> Well, ever since I installed it, it's been fil
> I selected netscape package in dselect and put netscape-v30tar.gz.
Where did you put the .tar.gz archive?
> But it still doesn't work!!
What exactly did the Netscape package say when you tried to install it?
> I decompressed manually but when i type netscape in the directory, it
> does
> > When i select my packages, i do pine+netscape.
>
> Pine (and I believe Netscape) are in the non-free section. Unless you have
> downloaded this section from one of the mirrors, it is not likely to be on
> any CDs. Plus, with netscape, you will only get an installation program.
> You will need
> Last night, my aging micropolis 1.5 gig drive decided to scramble itself.
> "Self," I think, "Just boot up off the boot and root disks, and fsck the
> root partition back into order." A noble thought, but to my utter dismay,
> I found out that the boot/root set doesn *not* have fsck on it! Does
>
> 2. My X server is not recognizing Backspace in Motif programs such as
> Netscape Navigator 3.0. I grabbed the XKeysymDB from the Netscape
> tar.gz file on ftp.netscape.com and diff'd it with the one in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 and there appear to be no relevant differences.
The problem
> Are there mime and nslookup packages for debian?
MIME is a transmission standard for email. What MIME package are
you looking for?
I maintain 'mime-support' which is basically /etc/mime.types and
/etc/mailcap with a support program for installing new types into
mailcap.
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