Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE. Systemd won, sysV/OpenRC/etc fans must leave

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
ms - SysV is FINE. Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:27:23 -0500 On 03/03/2014 07:02 PM, Arnold Bird wrote: > I myself do not like systemd either. > > Why don't I go use some other distro > since a vote was won on some corner > mailing list by a grand total of > 4 people infavor and

Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere - Systemd or the highway.

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere - Corporate Speak Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:59:04 -0500 On 3/3/2014 5:12 PM, Arnold Bird wrote: > All bullshit. Notice how the systemd men always talk in corporate speak. > Says volumes

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2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
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Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
I myself do not like systemd either. Why don't I go use some other distro since a vote was won on some corner mailing list by a grand total of 4 people infavor and 4 people against about one week ago?? Well: Debian is the universal operating system. I shouldn't have to. Everyone, here it is a

Re: Troll and systemd FUD

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
It's a good suggestion since for some reason even though most users hate the idea. most system admins hate the idea. SystemC incremented by one is being pushed by American and European people who have taken over key positions in every major linux distro. Once they take over they offer for all of

Re: Troll and systemd FUD

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
It's a good suggestion since for some reason even though most users hate the idea. most system admins hate the idea. SystemC incremented by one is being pushed by american and european people who have taken over key positions in every major linux distro. Once they take over they offer for all of

Re: Troll and systemd FUD

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
It's a good suggestion since for some reason even though most users hate the idea. most system admins hate the idea. SystemC incremented by one is being pushed by american and european people who have taken over key positions in every major linux distro. Once they take over they offer for all of

Re: Troll and systemd FUD

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
bject: Re: Troll and systemd FUD Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 09:26:07 +1100 On 04/03/14 03:19, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Arnold Bird/Fred Smith/Troll writes: > >> Would it be possible for russia to maintain a classic >> debian linux distribution > > It would support the kremv

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd fight

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
Is it not in the unfree repository? Alot of stuff was moved there. --- cele...@gmail.com wrote: From: Celejar To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd fight Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 11:36:13 -0500 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:10:46 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby wrote: ... >

Words of Inspiration for a GOOD init

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
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Re: was Four people troll

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
: From: Scott Ferguson To: arnoldb...@cosmicemail.com Subject: Re: was Four people troll Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 09:30:53 +1100 On 04/03/14 09:12, Arnold Bird/Fred Smith/Troll on welfare wrote: > All b**lsh*t. If you don't like the smell, pull your head out. But I think you like the smel

Re: Could russians maintain a traditional linux debian? Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
Russia is more traditionally minded these days, it looks like from the outside. USA is flip collar up, da*n the consequences, individuals have no meaning (collateral damage (aka reckless and willful murder)), f*k the past, kinda as*h*le thinking. I hope russians would not wish to jump into a hole

Re: Could russians maintain a traditional linux debian? Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
2014 20:50:04 +0400 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 07:42:32 -0800 "Arnold Bird" wrote: > Would it be possible for russia to maintain a classic > debian linux distribution and let the american and their > controled european employees to waddle into the morass > of systemd? You&#

Re: Test

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
I also get this delays. Debian developers in the tech-ctte list were talking about deleting all anti-systemd mail as spam. Maybe they are going through the mails to make sure no more anti-systemd "trolling" gets through. They do not want anyone to question the victory. __

Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
All bullsht. Notice how the system(c++) men always talk in corporate speak. Says volumes. Your supposed contracts can go to hell. --- scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: From: Scott Ferguson To: Debian-User Subject: Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere Date: Tue, 04

Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
I tried disabling udev today. Mouse and keyboard didnt work in X.org after that. This wasn't the case years ago. Another bunch of cruft required. It sucks. --- mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: From: Miles Fidelman To: Debian-User Subject: Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewher

Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere - Corporate Speak

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
All bullshit. Notice how the systemd men always talk in corporate speak. Says volumes. Your supposed contracts can go to hell. --- scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: From: Scott Ferguson To: Debian-User Subject: Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere Date: Tue, 04 Mar

Could russians maintain a traditional linux debian? Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-03 Thread Arnold Bird
Would it be possible for russia to maintain a classicdebian linux distribution and let the american and theircontroled european employees to waddle into the morassof systemd?Linus is half bought and paied for too, he uses fedora withall the mess. He was asked if he was asked to put in abackdoor int