Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 07:04:32AM +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: [...] > Isn't a recommended package a dependency? That... depends :-) In the strict Debian sense, there is "depends": your package won't work if that dependency is not installed. "Recommends": your package might be missing some

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread Federico Kircheis
On 04/07/2025 5:56 am, David Wright wrote: On Thu 03 Jul 2025 at 18:15:42 (+0200), Federico Kircheis wrote: On 03/07/2025 5:28 pm, Dan Ritter wrote: Federico Kircheis wrote: And this also holds for metapackages like lxqt. It still installs a lot of things, so down to lxqt-core. It still instal

Re: Feature idea: show upstream release dates on packages

2025-07-03 Thread Borden
Thank you for your quick response. I have some responses, below: > - no upstream ever existed > - the upstream no longer exists > >From my experience, the package usually gets delisted when there is no >upstream. If there's no upstream, where is the source coming from? > - the upstream doesn't r

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Jul 2025 at 18:15:42 (+0200), Federico Kircheis wrote: > On 03/07/2025 5:28 pm, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Federico Kircheis wrote: > > > And this also holds for metapackages like lxqt. > > > It still installs a lot of things, so down to lxqt-core. > > > It still installs some things I've noti

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/07/2025 21:35, Federico Kircheis wrote: The only issue I have with tasksel, is that sometimes I wish a more minimal environment. [...] And often I do not know which one I'm interested one, but I know those I do not want. Have you considered pinning with negative priority in apt preferen

Re: how to delete an attached file bugs.debian.org

2025-07-03 Thread David Christensen
On 7/3/25 09:40, масляков дмитрий wrote: Hello. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1107874 I accidentally attached the file [$$$ (application/octet-stream, attachment)]. How can I delete it? I suspect that you cannot delete an attachment to a bug report once the bug report has

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> not to forget (most?) Pocketbook> >> https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669 >> >> devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't find >> out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading books, pdf >

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> not to forget (most?) Pocketbook> > https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669 > > devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't find > out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading books, pdf > and so on. I can't find very definitive answer

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread Frank Weißer
not to forget (most?) Pocketbook> https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669 devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't find out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading books, pdf and so on. didier gaumet: Le 03/07/2025 à 13:25, fxk

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 18:15:42 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: > Oh; i was not aware of that, is it specific for apt? > man apt does not seem to mention it. > I'll try it out. Mine says: install, reinstall, remove, purge (apt-get(8)) Performs the requested action on one or mor

Re: Feature idea: show upstream release dates on packages

2025-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Jul 2025 at 17:56:29 (+0100), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu Jul 3, 2025 at 9:13 AM BST, Borden wrote: > > Aside from the "If you want it so much, you implement it and > > submit a PR," objections, what do people think of this? > > I'd suggest the next step would be refining the idea a

how to delete an attached file bugs.debian.org

2025-07-03 Thread масляков дмитрий
Hello. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1107874 I accidentally attached the file [$$$ (application/octet-stream, attachment)]. How can I delete it?

Re: Feature idea: show upstream release dates on packages

2025-07-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu Jul 3, 2025 at 9:13 AM BST, Borden wrote: Aside from the "If you want it so much, you implement it and submit a PR," objections, what do people think of this? I'd suggest the next step would be refining the idea as a Debian Enhancement Proposal (DEP): https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread Federico Kircheis
On 03/07/2025 5:28 pm, Dan Ritter wrote: Federico Kircheis wrote: On 30/06/2025 7:11 pm, Michael Paoli wrote: And this also holds for metapackages like lxqt. It still installs a lot of things, so down to lxqt-core. It still installs some things I've noticed and to not want, so I need to inspect

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-03, Federico Kircheis wrote: > > I hoped it would have been possible to exlucde dependencies, for examle > by prefixing them with "-"; for example: > > apt install lxqt -meteo-qt > I'm only aware of '--no-install-recommends' as far as apt goes. In aptitude, you can press n or : and m

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Federico Kircheis wrote: > On 30/06/2025 7:11 pm, Michael Paoli wrote: > And this also holds for metapackages like lxqt. > It still installs a lot of things, so down to lxqt-core. > It still installs some things I've noticed and to not want, so I need to > inspect which packages are installed, tra

Re: Feature idea: show upstream release dates on packages

2025-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Jul 2025 at 10:13:08 (+0200), Borden wrote: > I think the usefulness of this feature is self-evident, especially > when deciding which package from several options to install. [ … ] > If two packages, superficially, do the same thing, I'll probably > want the newer package. Alternatively,

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

2025-07-03 Thread Federico Kircheis
On 30/06/2025 7:11 pm, Michael Paoli wrote: The only issue I have with tasksel, is that sometimes I wish a more minimal environment. Then don't use tasksel to install package(s). Yes, this is what I am doing, but then I need to manually track all packages installed by tasksel, and list all t

Re: Feature idea: show upstream release dates on packages

2025-07-03 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:42:52AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Borden wrote: > > On a few projects, I've discovered how ancient some software is (like, > > last commit more than 15 years ago ancient). Unless I missed something, > > `apt-cache show` doesn't show the upstream release date. Ignor

Re: Feature idea: show upstream release dates on packages

2025-07-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Borden wrote: > On a few projects, I've discovered how ancient some software is (like, last > commit more than 15 years ago ancient). Unless I missed something, > `apt-cache show` doesn't show the upstream release date. This runs into problems quickly. Relevant issues include: - no upstream

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread didier gaumet
Le 03/07/2025 à 14:04, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] If the specs are more brad [...] typo error, sorry: "broad"

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread didier gaumet
Le 03/07/2025 à 13:25, fxkl4...@protonmail.com a écrit : [...] is there no dedicated reader device that can run a linux distro Hello, A minimal search on the web for "linux on " leads to: - for Kindle devices: https://github.com/schuhumi/alpine_kindle - for Kobo devices https://tuxphones.com/k

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 12:08:27PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > [...] > >> I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all >> mis-interpreted their request. >> I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/7/25 17:10, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/7/25 15:08, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 03.07.2025 09:35, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl4...@protonmail.com  wrote: i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and oth

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/7/25 15:08, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 03.07.2025 09:35, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media are there any running debia

Feature idea: show upstream release dates on packages

2025-07-03 Thread Borden
On a few projects, I've discovered how ancient some software is (like, last commit more than 15 years ago ancient). Unless I missed something, `apt-cache show` doesn't show the upstream release date. Naively, it seems feasible to add such a field, which front-ends like Synaptic can also displ

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 12:08:27PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: [...] > I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all > mis-interpreted their request. > I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet computer, > or a handheld book reader capable of viewi

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 03.07.2025 09:35, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media are there any running debian or other linux based distributions "okular",

Re: readers running debian

2025-07-03 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 01:47:18AM CEST, fxkl4...@protonmail.com said: > i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media > are there any running debian or other linux based distributions > By "reader" do you mean a software running on a standard debian computer, or a hardware specialized for