Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 8:04 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:21PM +0200, 🦓 wrote: > > if that is so safe, then i would just suggest a stable > > file:/etc/apt/sources.list.d/stable.list simply specifying > > deb http://deb.debian.org/ stable main > > deb-src http://deb.debia

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 6:29 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > [...] > > There have even been some arguments that the relatively recent trend of > providing .d directories and support for config fragment inclusion has > been added predominantly by software coming from distribution ecosystems > that lack d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 12:12:09 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wro

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:59 PM songbird wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > ... > > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," > >

Re: Trixie xorg crash (was: Trixie hangs during boot after upgrade)

Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2025, 16:40:30 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Rainer Dorsch: > Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2025, 16:22:17 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb > > Rainer Dorsch: > > Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2025, 15:38:46 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit > > schrieb > > > > Rainer Dorsch: >

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On 2025-06-20 22:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: As that was a suggestion following my remark I'll add some points to what I already posted, because I think testing is a bit different to stable in this respect. Just to make sure others are aware of that. There are some issues with this. * Don't

Re: old entries in sources.list?

Hi, On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:21PM +0200, 🦓 wrote: > if that is so safe, then i would just suggest a stable > file:/etc/apt/sources.list.d/stable.list simply specifying > deb http://deb.debian.org/ stable main > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/ stable main Congratulations, you just told people

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 22:15:21 +0200, 🦓 wrote: > Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: > > I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always > > just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I > > upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvan

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On 2025-06-20 22:15, 🦓 wrote: Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvantages when doing that. if th

Re: old entries in sources.list?

Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: > I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always > just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I > upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvantages when doing that. if that is so safe, then i would

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

Hi, On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 01:23:13PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the specific case of /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, the man page is > pretty explicit: > > Note that the Debian openssh-server package sets several options as stan‐ > dard in /etc/ssh/sshd_config which are not the default

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any settings want to retain, I have it give me a shell prompt (or use another shell I have independently) to make a co

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But ad

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 08:58:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 08:28:11 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > > the

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 18:20:37 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > > > Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me > > a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any > > settings want to retain, I have it give m

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12:09 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

Jeffrey Walton wrote: ... > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >. Now > that we have configuration d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:42:53AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2025-06-20 at 11:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >> You will absolutely lose your sshd_config when the package is > >> upgraded and you choose the maintainers v

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffr

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On 2025-06-20 at 11:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> You will absolutely lose your sshd_config when the package is >> upgraded and you choose the maintainers version of the file. > > No. > > You will be asked, as for every conffile

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > > > make changes to /etc/ssh/s

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. > > That's definitely false.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. That's definitely false.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 2:28 AM wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > > to edit or replace sources.lis

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 08:28:11 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > > to edi

Re: strange behaviour in LibreOffice Calc save to CSV

On Wed 18/06/2025 at 13:15, Gary Dale wrote: > If I open a .csv file containing e-mail addresses then save it back as a > .csv, underscores and "@" get translated into a character code. It does > this whether I use save or save as. > > However, if I check the box in the save as dialog to edit th