Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread longwind2
Thank Paoli and Butterworth! I will try rc1 anyway.

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-06-09 02:58:07 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 9/6/25 a las 1:18, Vincent Lefevre escribió: > > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? > > > > The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, but > > Debian stable is... stable. > > Look at the version number

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Santiago Vila
El 9/6/25 a las 1:18, Vincent Lefevre escribió: Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, but Debian stable is... stable. Look at the version numbers: spamassassin | 4.0.1-1~deb12u1| stable | sou

spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, but Debian stable is... stable. So its rules become obsolete, such as those that generate RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_S

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread nsrxnst
please observe the code of conduct On June 8, 2025 11:46:24 AM EDT, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, 9:56 PM gene heskett wrote: > >> >> My next door neighbor about 20 years >> younger took the first shot and within about 90 days lost half a lung. >> Today there are folks in

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 9:30 AM wrote: > how big is difference between rc1 and final release? > I upgraded all of my systems to Trixie already. It is pretty stable no major upgrades in versions any more. If you are tech savvy then you may want to install Trixie now. Who knows you may find a bug

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, June 07, 2025 04:58:04 PM Bret Busby wrote: > "Engineers once believed flying at the speed of sound would be impossible" > - https://www.history.com People once believed that a person could not travel on an (old fashioned steam engine train) as at such high speeds (20-30 mph??) the b

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, 9:56 PM gene heskett wrote: > > My next door neighbor about 20 years > younger took the first shot and within about 90 days lost half a lung. > Today there are folks in their 40's and 50's here in northern WV falling > over at 2 to 4 a day, twice the rate compared to a de

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
As is oft said of Debian: Debian releases when it's darn good and ready. :-) This is unlike many other distros, which release like clockwork, ready or not. Though for many years now, Debian has had a schedule on at least certain freezes. So that does at least give one indications when test star

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-07, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> No amount of wishful thinking will persuade the universe to change the laws >> of >> physics. >> > "Engineers once believed flying at the speed of sound would be impossible" > - https://www.history.com It seems wormholes are theoretically possible and con

Community Team: End this thread, please WAS Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such

2025-06-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
An immediate end to this thread, please. There have been two complaints to the Community Team recently about conduct on this list and, specifically, within this thread. Please stop contributing to this thread immediately. Please do not attempt to revive it. One of the important principles on th

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread longwind2
Thank Ritter and Cater very much! I haven't been able to absorb all details you give as my time is very limited, I give up. i wait patiently for Trixie news many years of experience with debian have taught me there may not be much excitement with new release after all

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 08, 2025 at 08:02:43AM +, longwi...@yahoo.com wrote: > how big is difference between rc1 and final release? > > where can I find such info? > > freebsd seem more transparent in this regard: > > www.freebsd.org/releases/14.3R/schedule/ > Hi longwind2, This deserves a longer answ

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Dan Ritter
longwi...@yahoo.com wrote: > how big is difference between rc1 and final release? 42* > where can I find such info? > > freebsd seem more transparent in this regard: > > www.freebsd.org/releases/14.3R/schedule/ FreeBSD isn't more transparent; FreeBSD has a different policy. They have target

Re: EFI system partition

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
Yes, very doable, though may be rather to quite non-trivial to do so. I not long ago basically did this on a pair of drives on my laptop (yes it supports up to at least 3 internal drives, and I nominally have 2) - I'd not long ago replaced my relatively ancient ~150G SSD that finally died (zero da

Re: Solutions to notify desktop users of new Debian releases

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
Uhm, and/or (@lists.debian.org): debian-security-announce debian-stable-announce debian-news debian-announce (as you'd mentioned) gee, and then there's also LTS, and various languages, and ... don't want to hammer installing users with too many questions (Debian already gets enough complaints about

when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread longwind2
how big is difference between rc1 and final release? where can I find such info? freebsd seem more transparent in this regard: www.freebsd.org/releases/14.3R/schedule/

Re: virt-manager and networking

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
Yes, mostly as others have reported in replies to your post. The key bit is bridge - and I suspect this will never become the as-shipped configuration by default, because of potential complications, security, etc. So bridge, you'll almost certainly need the relevant package(s), e.g. bridge-utils.